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      09-14-2012, 08:14 PM   #1
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Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 Engine Oil for the 335d/X5d

Is it possible to find this engine oil anywhere in Canada? I highly doubt it's available here and want to start putting it in my D:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ula_5W-30.aspx

So I ask my fellow D owners that live in the USA. Do you guys know of any stores/sites that would ship me the oil to Canada?

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I buy it at pep boys. Some are selling it on eBay.
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I had no luck finding it on eBay.
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i just searched "esp mobil" try it , I just did
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i just searched "esp mobil" try it , I just did
I just did and only 1 item came up:



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GBD, it's not Mobil, but check out this oil: http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC...20227110_5.pdf

Check out all the approvals. It has superior specs to the Mobil, and it might be available in Canada. I will be using this oil once my factory oil changes cease.

Edit: These guys sell it (I've bought from them), you'll have to check to make sure they will ship to Canada: http://oilstore.stores.yahoo.net/peuleulfusym.html
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GBD, it's not Mobil, but check out this oil: http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC...20227110_5.pdf

Check out all the approvals. It has superior specs to the Mobil, and it might be available in Canada. I will be using this oil once my factory oil changes cease.

Edit: These guys sell it (I've bought from them), you'll have to check to make sure they will ship to Canada: http://oilstore.stores.yahoo.net/peuleulfusym.html
Thanks DD. I clicked on "order" and sure enough I get the options to pick the provinces for our country here in Canada. Only thing I don't like is they UPS because those tools ALWAYS ask for broker fees at my door.

Also, how much in "1" unit of that oil?
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Also, how much in "1" unit of that oil?
Contact them to make sure, but I expect that "1 unit" is a 6 quart case.
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Hey DD. I went online and noticed that Pennzoil claims to sell the oil at a local chain we call "Canadian Tire" here. I drove out to one expecting to see every other Pennzoil oil BUT the diesel one. Sure enough that's exactly what happened and the parts guy also had no clue when I asked him to look through his database on the computer.

I sent a few emails to Pennzoil asking them where I can find this oil in Canada.

I'm expecting the answer to be "nowhere."
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I had a tough time finding it too. I think it's actually a Euro oil, but it's been a while since I did my digging, so I might be remembering incorrectly. It's good stuff, I know that much!

Regarding the M1 ESP, are you close enough to the border to maybe dive into Buffalo and get it there?
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I'm about just under 2 hours from the border but would never drive in for anything.
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GBD, it's not Mobil, but check out this oil: http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC...20227110_5.pdf

Check out all the approvals. It has superior specs to the Mobil, and it might be available in Canada. I will be using this oil once my factory oil changes cease.

Edit: These guys sell it (I've bought from them), you'll have to check to make sure they will ship to Canada: http://oilstore.stores.yahoo.net/peuleulfusym.html
Hmm..really? Looks same to me. M1 actually specs more
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It has a superior HTHS value than M1, which is one of the values I consider important. It was superior in other ways, but I don't have the values in front of me to quote.
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It has a superior HTHS value than M1, which is one of the values I consider important. It was superior in other ways, but I don't have the values in front of me to quote.
Understood.

Specifications and Approvals





Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 has the following builder approvals:
BMW Longlife 04
MB-Approval 229.31/229.51
Volkswagen (Gasoline / Diesel) 504 00 / 507 00
Porsche C30
Chrysler MS-11106
Peugeot/Citron Automobiles B71 2290 B71 2297
AvtoVAZ Group "Luxe" AAE
Standard STO 003-05, Group B6

Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 meets or exceeds the requirements of:
ACEA C2, C3

API (Meets Engine Test Requirements)
SM / SN
JASO DL-1


According to ExxonMobil, Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 is of the following quality level:

API CF
Volkswagen (Gasoline)502 00 / 503 00 / 503 01
Volkswagen (Diesel) 505 00 / 505 01 / 506 00 / 506 01

All VW engines with the exception of Unit-Injector / Pump-Duse TDI without LongLife Service and without DPF between 1999-2003 and R5/V10-TDi before model year 2006


Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30

SAE Grade 5W-30
Viscosity, cSt (ASTM D445)
@ 40C 72.8
@ 100C 12.1
Viscosity Index 164
Sulphated Ash, wt% (ASTM D874) 0.6
HTHS Viscosity, mPas @ 150 C (ASTM D4683) 3.58
Pour Point, C (ASTM D97) -45
Flash Point, C (ASTM D92) 254
Density @ 15.6 C, g/ml (ASTM D4052) 0.850
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It has a superior HTHS value than M1, which is one of the values I consider important. It was superior in other ways, but I don't have the values in front of me to quote.
It also has superior viscosity at 40c, and a much better VI. Mobil doesn't quote volatility figures, so don't know about that one.

Either of these oils is fine for our application; I just gave GBD my opinion on what I prefer.
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Reviving this. Anyone know the ash wt% of the Pennzoil one in this topic?
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Reviving this. Anyone know the ash wt% of the Pennzoil one in this topic?
I replied in the other thread, had no memory of even posting in this one! LOL

I haven't been able to find the ash % on this oil, but by virtue of the fact it meets LL04, we know it's below .8. I wish I could find out for sure, but that's the only number I can infer.
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