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      09-17-2012, 12:18 AM   #221
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I still have my 4S and it's working perfectly fine and just as fast as the day I got it. My contract isn't up til next year anyways but when it is up I'll get the 5S.
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Fixed that for ya.
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people already camping out for iPhone 5 and they have sponsors!!! too funny

http://www.iclarified.com/24477/cust...phone-5-photos
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Woha. I didn't even see that Samsung ad until today. That kind of ad only strengthens my decision not to purchase Samsung branded products. I know that there are Samsung components in products that i own but even if chose to go away from the iPhone i wouldn't buy a Samsung based on that ad alone. Not to mention that they play on the ignorance of their existing and potential customers with the resolution nonsense.

This is as lowly as a campaign ad. That's effing low!!
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Woha. I didn't even see that Samsung ad until today. That kind of ad only strengthens my decision not to purchase Samsung branded products. I know that there are Samsung components in products that i own but even if chose to go away from the iPhone i wouldn't buy a Samsung based on that ad alone. Not to mention that they play on the ignorance of their existing and potential customers with the resolution nonsense.

This is as lowly as a campaign ad. That's effing low!!
What is low about comparing its product to a competitor's and pointing out the differences? This is done by...um...just about every company that advertises.
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Woha. I didn't even see that Samsung ad until today. That kind of ad only strengthens my decision not to purchase Samsung branded products. I know that there are Samsung components in products that i own but even if chose to go away from the iPhone i wouldn't buy a Samsung based on that ad alone. Not to mention that they play on the ignorance of their existing and potential customers with the resolution nonsense.

This is as lowly as a campaign ad. That's effing low!!
What is low about comparing its product to a competitor's and pointing out the differences? This is done by...um...just about every company that advertises.
Many things are "low" about this concept, but...... I do recall my mis-taste for all those anti-PC ads Apple ran continuously a year or two back.

It is never wise to knock the competition, especially to a smart audience. The higher the stakes in the corporate world you go, the less you would find such shenanigans. You should always sell on the merits of your product, period!!!

Myself, I prefer the iPhone, and ordered the new one. The G3S is a nice phone, to each his/her own. I would prefer all companies market their product and sell the car/widget/device on its merits and features, rather than knocking down what the competition can't do in a biased advert.

It is our society though, one needs to look no further than the recent republican and democratic conventions to witness biased untruths spoken by both parties....

Which would you prefer, adverts on benefits and features, or smear tactics misrepresenting the other product? Do you base your buying decision on a biased ad, or do you research and try to make an informed decision?
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A comparison ads with competitors like the Samsung ad above is pretty much admission you're in second place. Same deal with the I'm a Mac/I'm a PC ads, which is why Apple dropped that and focused on the mobile market instead. It's also why you never see BMW mention the competition in their commercials
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A comparison ads with competitors like the Samsung ad above is pretty much admission you're in second place. Same deal with the I'm a Mac/I'm a PC ads, which is why Apple dropped that and focused on the mobile market instead. It's also why you never see BMW mention the competition in their commercials
Under what scenario is Samsung second place? I guess in profitability, but they crush apple in mobile market share. Apple ran those Mac vs PC adds for a few years. They were good ads btw.
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Many things are "low" about this concept, but...... I do recall my mis-taste for all those anti-PC ads Apple ran continuously a year or two back.

It is never wise to knock the competition, especially to a smart audience. The higher the stakes in the corporate world you go, the less you would find such shenanigans. You should always sell on the merits of your product, period!!!

Myself, I prefer the iPhone, and ordered the new one. The G3S is a nice phone, to each his/her own. I would prefer all companies market their product and sell the car/widget/device on its merits and features, rather than knocking down what the competition can't do in a biased advert.

It is our society though, one needs to look no further than the recent republican and democratic conventions to witness biased untruths spoken by both parties....

Which would you prefer, adverts on benefits and features, or smear tactics misrepresenting the other product? Do you base your buying decision on a biased ad, or do you research and try to make an informed decision?
The PC/Mac ads never really featured a specific product other than the windows OS. Which they politely encompassed with the term PC. At the time i didn't own any Apple products and felt they were inferior to my PCs. But still didn't feel insulted for choosing a PC by those ads.

Agree that advertising your product on it's own is the way to go for sure.

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A comparison ads with competitors like the Samsung ad above is pretty much admission you're in second place. Same deal with the I'm a Mac/I'm a PC ads, which is why Apple dropped that and focused on the mobile market instead. It's also why you never see BMW mention the competition in their commercials
Correct again. Even if the products doing the comparison ads are a better value or do the same thing for less money they are in second place. Weather it's second in form and function or sold units or both.
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Many things are "low" about this concept, but...... I do recall my mis-taste for all those anti-PC ads Apple ran continuously a year or two back.

It is never wise to knock the competition, especially to a smart audience. The higher the stakes in the corporate world you go, the less you would find such shenanigans. You should always sell on the merits of your product, period!!!

Myself, I prefer the iPhone, and ordered the new one. The G3S is a nice phone, to each his/her own. I would prefer all companies market their product and sell the car/widget/device on its merits and features, rather than knocking down what the competition can't do in a biased advert.

It is our society though, one needs to look no further than the recent republican and democratic conventions to witness biased untruths spoken by both parties....

Which would you prefer, adverts on benefits and features, or smear tactics misrepresenting the other product? Do you base your buying decision on a biased ad, or do you research and try to make an informed decision?
The PC/Mac ads never really featured a specific product other than the windows OS. Which they politely encompassed with the term PC. At the time i didn't own any Apple products and felt they were inferior to my PCs. But still didn't feel insulted for choosing a PC by those ads.

Agree that advertising your product on it's own is the way to go for sure.

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A comparison ads with competitors like the Samsung ad above is pretty much admission you're in second place. Same deal with the I'm a Mac/I'm a PC ads, which is why Apple dropped that and focused on the mobile market instead. It's also why you never see BMW mention the competition in their commercials
Correct again. Even if the products doing the comparison ads are a better value or do the same thing for less money they are in second place. Weather it's second in form and function or sold units or both.
To clarify, I found Apple's ads to be tasteless during the PC/Mac ad period. I too only owned PC at the time these ads ran, and I scoffed at the ads. I just don't like ads that knock the competition, period.

Today, I have the MacBook Pro Retina featured out to the max, still trying to figure out why I bought it and what it will do. Simply, got tired of the same old PC this and PC that issue. I'm mothballing the ASUS mammoth 17" souped up laptop. I've built numerous PCs over the years, just got tired eventually of the software, and virus crap, etc....
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Under what scenario is Samsung second place? I guess in profitability, but they crush apple in mobile market share. Apple ran those Mac vs PC adds for a few years. They were good ads btw.
Looks like pretty much a dead heat.

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Looks like pretty much a dead heat.

That is the US market. In the global market its somewhere around 20% samsung vs 7% apple.

Edit: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...614746254.html
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That is the US market. In the global market its somewhere around 20% samsung vs 7% apple.

Edit: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...614746254.html
^^ True. But that would be expected, especially since apple only offers a smartphone. If you were talking smart phones only, i think you'll see similar numbers to the US figures, with Samsung having the edge.

Not that any of this really matters. I do wonder how much US Federal & State taxes are paid by Samsung's profits though.
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