HPF 335i Single Turbo Project revisited with a Bet! - Page 3 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Dave W. · 09-28-2012, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Kirk

The original manifold was designed to work with a Stand Alone or a Parallel Setup like in our E46 kits. Which is why you are seeing a second generation manifold. After realizing how far out the Infinity was we decided to speed things up with the piggyback that Vishnu makes.

That is why Dave...

If we were going with a Standalone like we originally planned it would not have mattered.

Thanks for the explanation. Sorry about the insulting nature of my reply, I was just a little peeved that you would copy a successful innovation without giving a little credit to the source.

klipseracer · 10-01-2012, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave W.

Thanks for the explanation. Sorry about the insulting nature of my reply, I was just a little peeved that you would copy a successful innovation without giving a little credit to the source.

I must give credit to Vishnu/FFTEC for thinking the design up first. But I bet HPF's solution will be cheaper.

pits200 · 10-01-2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klipseracer

I must give credit to Vishnu/FFTEC for thinking the design up first. But I bet HPF's solution will be cheaper.

Really???

I thought HPF stood for

High
Priced
Fabrication

klipseracer · 10-02-2012, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pits200

Really???

I thought HPF stood for

High
Priced
Fabrication

Although not the best comparison, but on their other kit they seemed very competitively priced.

HPF 335i #1 · 10-02-2012, 12:25 AM

Im ready to start sleeping in my car again

Rotorocious · 10-02-2012, 12:56 AM

u guys are still around?

ETS Michael · 10-02-2012, 10:54 AM

Looking Good!

3-Serious · 10-02-2012, 02:38 PM

I can only begin to imagine the price range for this thing! Lol I think that the single king will be Vishnu when it comes to price/power for quite some time. Though I'd like to be wrong.

Simple3 · 10-03-2012, 03:19 PM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...&highlight=hpf
yea, kind of lost faith in them after they tried to charge the n54 community 500 bucks for an oil catch can. Whoever said High Priced Fabrication is right. So far their work on the n54 is fail and anything they do develop will be a rehash of something already on the market. HPF impressed me with their work on the e46 m3 platform. Maybe they should give up the n54 and start with the e90/2/3 M3.

Eleventeen · 10-03-2012, 06:02 PM

I think their price point was under $7k for the record. If anything, this manifold will be easier to build (read as cheaper).

As far as the turbo goes, I'm not sure if the precision twin-scroll costs less or more than the V-band; but I can tell you a Garrett twin-scroll is cheaper then a Tial V-band housing. My guess is the twin-scroll design will be cheaper to produce, overall (unless they use a twin gate setup, which may be preferable, but not required).

HPF 335i #1 · 10-04-2012, 01:30 AM

Mkah · 10-04-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave W.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Kirk

The original manifold was designed to work with a Stand Alone or a Parallel Setup like in our E46 kits. Which is why you are seeing a second generation manifold. After realizing how far out the Infinity was we decided to speed things up with the piggyback that Vishnu makes.

That is why Dave...

If we were going with a Standalone like we originally planned it would not have mattered.

Thanks for the explanation. Sorry about the insulting nature of my reply, I was just a little peeved that you would copy a successful innovation without giving a little credit to the source.

Wow.... :facepalm:

Dave W. · 10-04-2012, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///M 95

Wow.... :facepalm:

Yeah you're right. I don't need to apologize, I was just trying to be polite. The reality is HPF is copying the Vishnu/FFtec design and trying to say 'it's just natural', a 'no brainer', if only there was a standalone, etc. Those are very transparent excuses, I can see right through them. They don't need to admit where they got the idea for the new mani, just look at the pics, it's pretty clear.

HPF Kirk · 10-04-2012, 04:23 PM

Updates!!!!!!

Right off the bat you will notice the twin wastegate mounts. We decided to go with this design for flawless and ease of boost control. You’ll then notice the smoother twin scroll division. This served two purposes; faster spool up and allows a plethora of turbo chargers to be used with our kit. As mentioned before, we’ll be using a dual ball bearing 6466 divided turbo with our initial kit. We will definitely be testing other turbos as we develop more stages for the kit.

The runners are also nearly equal, that is always beneficial. With the manifold now in our hands, we are just in need of closing up lose ended projects before we can fully dive right into finishing the 335i kit. As always, we’ll be updating you as progress happens. Also we do plan on selling some components separately for those that would like to choose their own turbo and tune on their own.

Laid Black 335i · 10-04-2012, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave W.

Yeah you're right. I don't need to apologize, I was just trying to be polite. The reality is HPF is copying the Vishnu/FFtec design and trying to say 'it's just natural', a 'no brainer', if only there was a standalone, etc. Those are very transparent excuses, I can see right through them. They don't need to admit where they got the idea for the new mani, just look at the pics, it's pretty clear.

They don't look the same. The new HPF manifold appears to be "stacked" towards the middle. The Vishnu manifold joins together at the middle.

CubanJJ09 · 10-04-2012, 05:30 PM

Looking

Thanks for the update!!!

Fully_Bolted · 10-04-2012, 05:47 PM

Looking VERY nice.

type rrr · 10-04-2012, 06:14 PM

so nice to look at !!!!!!!!!!! wow !!!!!!!!

Eracer76 · 10-04-2012, 06:22 PM

Wow is right!!
I'd definitely be interested in a manifold/turbo/downpipe combo if its available separately

Edit... and if it will fit the XI... but something tells me it won't

pits200 · 01-07-2013, 03:53 PM

Bumping an old thread but is it safe to say both of them lost this bet?

Wescuddles · 01-07-2013, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pits200

Bumping an old thread but is it safe to say both of them lost this bet?

lol

335(EX)(EYE) · 01-08-2013, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wescuddles

lol

Hahahahaha

10-02-2012, 12:25 AM	#49
HPF 335i #1 Captain Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6AT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ft. Riley Kansas Posts: 756 iTrader: (0)	Im ready to start sleeping in my car again __________________ HPF Twin Scroll Stage 1 (Vishnu Tuned), FMIC, OCC, Exhaust, KW V1, M3 Front & Rear Roll Bars, M3 Control Arms, Rear Toe Arms, M3 Sub Bushings, WT LSD, VMR 710s, Stop Tech Brakes, AEM Boost Pods, CF Boot Lid, Vented CF Hood, M-Tech Front, Aluminum Pedals, LED Shifter, Mat Black front Grill; Lots of extra work...

10-02-2012, 10:54 AM	#51
ETS Michael Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 1,144 iTrader: (4)	Looking Good! Last edited by ETS Michael; 10-02-2012 at 11:05 AM.

10-02-2012, 02:38 PM	#52
3-Serious Lieutenant Drives: AP e92 335i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New york Posts: 443 iTrader: (0)	I can only begin to imagine the price range for this thing! Lol I think that the single king will be Vishnu when it comes to price/power for quite some time. Though I'd like to be wrong. __________________ Cobb JR Tune, HFS-4, DCI, AMS Intercooler, Vishnu CP, Forge DV's, AR DP's, RPI exhaust, AR OCC, BMW STS, Spec stage 3+ clutch, CDV delete, H&R Coil overs, Quaife LSD, DefiV Lock down kit, WOTbox.

10-03-2012, 06:02 PM	#54
Eleventeen Private First Class Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 167 iTrader: (0)	I think their price point was under $7k for the record. If anything, this manifold will be easier to build (read as cheaper). As far as the turbo goes, I'm not sure if the precision twin-scroll costs less or more than the V-band; but I can tell you a Garrett twin-scroll is cheaper then a Tial V-band housing. My guess is the twin-scroll design will be cheaper to produce, overall (unless they use a twin gate setup, which may be preferable, but not required). __________________ [insert list of gas guzzling, warranty voiding, environment destroying, pocket emptying mods that still make you smile, here]

10-04-2012, 01:30 AM	#55
HPF 335i #1 Captain Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6AT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ft. Riley Kansas Posts: 756 iTrader: (0)	__________________ HPF Twin Scroll Stage 1 (Vishnu Tuned), FMIC, OCC, Exhaust, KW V1, M3 Front & Rear Roll Bars, M3 Control Arms, Rear Toe Arms, M3 Sub Bushings, WT LSD, VMR 710s, Stop Tech Brakes, AEM Boost Pods, CF Boot Lid, Vented CF Hood, M-Tech Front, Aluminum Pedals, LED Shifter, Mat Black front Grill; Lots of extra work...

10-02-2012, 12:56 AM	#50
Rotorocious Major Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,223 iTrader: (3)	u guys are still around?

10-03-2012, 03:19 PM	#53
Simple3 Lieutenant Drives: e90 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 435 iTrader: (7)	http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...&highlight=hpf yea, kind of lost faith in them after they tried to charge the n54 community 500 bucks for an oil catch can. Whoever said High Priced Fabrication is right. So far their work on the n54 is fail and anything they do develop will be a rehash of something already on the market. HPF impressed me with their work on the e46 m3 platform. Maybe they should give up the n54 and start with the e90/2/3 M3.

10-04-2012, 04:23 PM	#58
HPF Kirk Drives: EKCivic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 77 iTrader: (0)	Updates!!!!!! Right off the bat you will notice the twin wastegate mounts. We decided to go with this design for flawless and ease of boost control. You’ll then notice the smoother twin scroll division. This served two purposes; faster spool up and allows a plethora of turbo chargers to be used with our kit. As mentioned before, we’ll be using a dual ball bearing 6466 divided turbo with our initial kit. We will definitely be testing other turbos as we develop more stages for the kit. The runners are also nearly equal, that is always beneficial. With the manifold now in our hands, we are just in need of closing up lose ended projects before we can fully dive right into finishing the 335i kit. As always, we’ll be updating you as progress happens. Also we do plan on selling some components separately for those that would like to choose their own turbo and tune on their own.

10-04-2012, 05:30 PM	#60
CubanJJ09 Banned Drives: like an asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 12,693 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [3.09]	Looking Thanks for the update!!!

10-04-2012, 05:47 PM	#61
Fully_Bolted Banned Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 445 iTrader: (0)	Looking VERY nice.

10-04-2012, 06:14 PM	#62
type rrr Second Lieutenant Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: montreal canada Posts: 234 iTrader: (0)	so nice to look at !!!!!!!!!!! wow !!!!!!!! __________________ 2007 335i coupe AT-- I80AS--FBO -stock turbos--COBB v402 beta stage 2 + ATR-- NITTO'S 275-40-17 NT05R --- 12.025 @ 120 mph -- full weight

10-04-2012, 06:22 PM	#63
Eracer76 Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 335xi Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: IL Posts: 234 iTrader: (5)	Wow is right!! I'd definitely be interested in a manifold/turbo/downpipe combo if its available separately Edit... and if it will fit the XI... but something tells me it won't __________________ Click>> 2008 BMW 335xi E92: 11.988 @ 114.080 MPH BMS JB4 G5, WW meth kit, OCC ~ Stett CAI ~ Helix FMIC ~ ER Charge Pipe w/Tial BOV ~AR Catless DP~ Aero Front Lip ~ BMS LED Angel Eyes ~ Black Kidney Grills ~ Painted Lower Grills Painted Reflectors ~ Aluminum Pedals ~ 35% window tint ~ Painted Calipers/Rotors ~ KW V1 Coilovers ~ 19" Avant Garde M310's 235/35 & 275/30 G-Max AS-03 tires

01-07-2013, 03:53 PM	#64
pits200 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 09 335i X-Drive Black Sapphire Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,578 iTrader: (0)	Bumping an old thread but is it safe to say both of them lost this bet?

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