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      10-04-2012, 07:44 PM   #23
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I don't get it?
This will help:

http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/publi...tive-covenants
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I understood what it was, just don't get why you would care that much about it, that you would actually be willing to put so much time / effort / possible coin into trying to stop someone putting something on their own land. I mean, fair enough if it was an industrial windmill, but a caravan / motorhome?
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I understood what it was, just don't get why you would care that much about it, that you would actually be willing to put so much time / effort / possible coin into trying to stop someone putting something on their own land. I mean, fair enough if it was an industrial windmill, but a caravan / motorhome?
Everyone else in the whole area knows the rules and sticks to them, why should this guy get away with it? There are probably people that have caravans and pay for them to be stored elsewhere in order to obey the restrictive covenants and uphold the value of the area, they are probably thinking its ok to stick them on the road now.

If this brings down the feel of the area and adversely affects the value of my property - it would be negligent of me NOT to take action.
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Agree 100% - caravans are fcuking ugly, vile things.
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Everyone else in the whole area knows the rules and sticks to them, why should this guy get away with it? There are probably people that have caravans and pay for them to be stored elsewhere in order to obey the restrictive covenants and uphold the value of the area, they are probably thinking its ok to stick them on the road now.

If this brings down the feel of the area and adversely affects the value of my property - it would be negligent of me NOT to take action.
Chris,you could always try the 'anonymous' bluff letter.

Dear Resident,

It has been brought to our attention that a number of residents on the estate are contravening the restrictive covenants that are in place on the properties that form the estate.

1. The covenant that you are contravening covers the storage of motorhomes/ caravan/s on your property.

We are writing to all residents who are in contravention of any of these covenants,to allow the residents time to comply with the restrictive covenants that are in place on properties that form the estate.

The time period is 14 days from the date of this letter,non compliance will result in legal action.

Thankyou


It's a long shot admittedly,but a postage stamp is a small price to pay,IF it has the desired end result.
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That's nice thank you!

I have the actual working from the land registry now so I might throw that in there as well..

I want to remain anonymous, but on the other hand I'd also like to see his response......
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Your best bet to start with is maybe to get a solicitor to write to them on your behalf, or on behalf of 'residents' (no names of course) reminding them of the convenant etc and outlining the penalties etc.

You can get copies of the title deeds to that and any property for 4 from the Land Registry website, it will tell you everything you need to know about THAT property. (title,owners, cost, lender, plans, convenants,etc. you might find something interesting that you didn't know about too, like it might not even be his house)

It might cost you 100 tops for a quick chat with a solicitor and & well written single letter. (my missus is a lawyer)
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That's nice thank you!

I have the actual working from the land registry now so I might throw that in there as well..

I want to remain anonymous, but on the other hand I'd also like to see his response......
Does what you have from the Land Registry give you the details of the originator/s of the covenants?

Definitely put the details from the LR in with the letter,as it adds a LOT of weight to the contents of the anonymous letter.

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Does what you have from the Land Registry give you the details of the originator/s of the covenants?

Good luck
It will for sure have details of the convenants, usually agreed between the original landowner at the time of sale of the plots to the builder.

That will all add weight to the letter.

It doesn't have to involve the originator either, we have 300 year old covenants on our land, they can be passed with title over time but with certain restirctions.

It helps if the convenant has been properly registered (since 1975)

Have a read here http://www.iconvey.co.uk/articles/re...9286/index.php

IMO your best getting a propertly solicitor to do it, they will pick all the pertanent points up.
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But who the feck are you to say what someone else can and cannot park on their property? Its their property.
Wrong.

It's their property WITH LEGAL RESTRICTIONS that they knew about when they bought it.

If you want to park a motorhome on your drive, don't buy a house where that is not permitted.

You seem to be saying that as a decent person in your own home (obeying restrictions), if you don't like people breaking the law near you, then tough shit go and live somewhere else?

An all too common attitude unfortunately.
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Some interesting info here, particularly post #10
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Chris, I think you just need to take a chill pill. It's a van with windows, parked on a drive,... by the sound of it, not even your next door neighbour. Why are you getting so irate about it? You'll give yourself a hernia, or worse. Just let it go.

I can imagine the same arguments 100years ago... there's a covenant that you can't keep a motor car on your drive, only a horse and carriage.

Your inferred assumption that all caravaners are pikey's is quite frankly insulting and verging on the 'R' word.
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"R" word? What's that, "racist"?

In order for that to be true that would mean that caravanners are a different race from the rest of us.

Oh, hang on.....
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I complete.y agree with the restrictive covenants and people flouting them. I love America where Residents Associations wield a lot of power and aren't afraid to wield them. Oft times, they can be draconian in their wielding of power - but the fear keeps folks in line and I'm talking about issues like mowing of laws, making sure trash isn't piled too high, trash isn't put out too early, house front is properly and correctly maintained, not too may cars parked on the road outside your home etc. etc. it's scary, but it means consistency and ensures everyone obeys.

It frustrates me when in the UK I see people flouting these covenants, so the OP has my personal sympathy. But I think it's about who will enforce them and how which mans floaters feel safe to do so.
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I complete.y agree with the restrictive covenants and people flouting them. I love America where Residents Associations wield a lot of power and aren't afraid to wield them. Oft times, they can be draconian in their wielding of power - but the fear keeps folks in line and I'm talking about issues like mowing of laws, making sure trash isn't piled too high, trash isn't put out too early, house front is properly and correctly maintained, not too may cars parked on the road outside your home etc. etc. it's scary, but it means consistency and ensures everyone obeys.
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LMAO Ian. Expendable. Expendable.

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Chris, I think you just need to take a chill pill. It's a van with windows, parked on a drive,... by the sound of it, not even your next door neighbour. Why are you getting so irate about it? You'll give yourself a hernia, or worse. Just let it go.

I can imagine the same arguments 100years ago... there's a covenant that you can't keep a motor car on your drive, only a horse and carriage.

Your inferred assumption that all caravaners are pikey's is quite frankly insulting and verging on the 'R' word.
Covenants,motorhomes/caravans and now racism,you couldn't make it up.

I'm not convinced it's Chris that needs a chill pill!
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Covenants,motorhomes/caravans and now racism,you couldn't make it up.

I'm not convinced it's Chris that needs a chill pill!
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Covenants,motorhomes/caravans and now racism,you couldn't make it up.

I'm not convinced it's Chris that needs a chill pill!
Fair enough, but I just re-read Chris's first post and stand by my comments.
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I quite like a campervan myself. I have a few of them, does that make me a scumbag as well?

Good luck in trying to enforce it, it will cost you and it's usually he with the most money wins..........
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Lol. Well I've certainly enjoyed the reaction this thread has stirred up. Apologies if any caravanners have been offended lol.

Just to clarify - I called him a scumbag because he's blatantly flouting the restrictive covenants in place on the property not because I have a hatred of all caravans/motorhomes and their owners.

And Dar2008 - I appreciate your concerns about my mental well-being but rest assured I am not staring through a gap in my curtains all day long strumming my fingers and plotting my revenge...........yet.....

This isn't really about caravans, its about covenants. I'm not allowed to tarmac over the bit of grass next to my house and turn it into a driveway, as much as I'd like to - so why should he be allowed to break the rules?
I'm not a fan of the 'oh well, can't be bothered to do anything about it' attitude that is endemic in this country, so I'm off to a solicitor's next week - we'll see what happens...

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Your inferred assumption that all caravaners are pikey's is quite frankly insulting and verging on the 'R' word.
Thanks for that, that really made me chuckle....paranoid much?
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I quite like a campervan myself. I have a few of them, does that make me a scumbag as well?
Lol no, unless you keep them in front of your house, to your neighbour's annoyance, when there is a restrictive covenant in place specifically forbidding that....then in that case - yes.

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Good luck in trying to enforce it, it will cost you and it's usually he with the most money wins..........
Well in that case, I've got a sure fire winner then
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