Shiv, where's the LPFP? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

bigdnno98 · 10-08-2012, 08:47 AM

Shiv, I really need a LPFP, what's the ETA on this upgraded LPFP you guys are going to release. Initial pricing? Install difficulty? Is it basically just a plug and play replacement in tank pump?

enrita · 10-08-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdnno98

Shiv, I really need a LPFP, what's the ETA on this upgraded LPFP you guys are going to release. Initial pricing? Install difficulty? Is it basically just a plug and play replacement in tank pump?

apparently is an inline booster pump. no direct replacement of the lpfp...

farbmw · 10-08-2012, 09:57 AM

He installed it in a members car already, and he reports that it works great, so I don't know what Shiv is waiting for, I thought he liked money! LOL

joec500 · 10-08-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by farbmw

He installed it in a members car already, and he reports that it works great, so I don't know what Shiv is waiting for, I thought he liked money! LOL

Yup, I have one in my car, my guess is he is going through finalizing stages for the actual production kit. Apparently there is a bracket that needs to be anodized, I know he is looking forward to releasing the kit and the business.

jippii ensio · 10-08-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdnno98

Shiv, I really need a LPFP, what's the ETA on this upgraded LPFP you guys are going to release. Initial pricing? Install difficulty? Is it basically just a plug and play replacement in tank pump?

Do you really? We have seen 650whp cars without the upgrade.

Beemw335 · 10-08-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by farbmw

I don't know what Shiv is waiting for, I thought he liked money! LOL

pits200 · 10-08-2012, 11:10 AM

He probably realizes this will be something that will quickly be copied by competitors and wants to have a very finalized product before giving anymore info.

There is more to advancing a platform than just performance, it's also big money to these companies. I think we all need to remember this is a business and sometimes that gets overlooked by our excitement to gain another 10whp.

Fully_Bolted · 10-08-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdnno98

Shiv, I really need a LPFP, what's the ETA on this upgraded LPFP you guys are going to release. Initial pricing? Install difficulty? Is it basically just a plug and play replacement in tank pump?

Do you really? We have seen 650whp cars without the upgrade.

You of all people should understand BSFC differences between RB turbos and ST setups.

bigdnno98 · 10-08-2012, 11:30 AM

Haha, no I'm trying to run 100% e85 but my LPFP can't handle it. I need a new one but would rather buy an upgraded one over oem. That's why I need to know if its inline or a 1 for 1 replacement. Will I still need a new oem LPFP? Idk. Only testing will tell.

joec500 · 10-08-2012, 11:45 AM

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Haha, no I'm trying to run 100% e85 but my LPFP can't handle it. I need a new one but would rather buy an upgraded one over oem. That's why I need to know if its inline or a 1 for 1 replacement. Will I still need a new oem LPFP? Idk. Only testing will tell.

Before Shiv installed the new pump, my car was throwing the LPFP code on 100% E85. Once the secondary pump was installed, everything is fine and dandy. I was told I did not need to replace my LPFP once the inline pump was installed. I would wait before replacing the OEM pump.

bigdnno98 · 10-08-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by joec500

Before Shiv installed the new pump, my car was throwing the LPFP code on 100% E85. Once the secondary pump was installed, everything is fine and dandy. I was told I did not need to replace my LPFP once the inline pump was installed. I would wait before replacing the OEM pump.

awesome thanks!

shiv@vishnu · 10-08-2012, 05:03 PM

Hi guys-- we are waiting for our first run of parts from the machine shop. The prototype we had was put in joec500's car. We decided to get a run of kits made first before showing the world what we did and how we did it. Hope to have something to show later this week.

hemi to e90 · 10-08-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi guys-- we are waiting for our first run of parts from the machine shop. The prototype we had was put in joec500's car. We decided to get a run of kits made first before showing the world what we did and how we did it. Hope to have something to show later this week.

shiv, this would work on all cars or just procede ones?

Dmacc · 10-08-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi guys-- we are waiting for our first run of parts from the machine shop. The prototype we had was put in joec500's car. We decided to get a run of kits made first before showing the world what we did and how we did it. Hope to have something to show later this week.

shiv, this would work on all cars or just procede ones?

He mentioned in another thread it would be universal.

shiv@vishnu · 10-08-2012, 05:33 PM

Doesn't matter what tune is used.

farbmw · 10-08-2012, 07:14 PM

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Doesn't matter what tune is used.

Good I hope you didn't mind my "money" joke

, because this mod I will most likely buy!

shiv@vishnu · 10-08-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted

You of all people should understand BSFC differences between RB turbos and ST setups.

Not really. It's the BSFC difference between Gasoline and Ethanol that is most relevant in this discussion.

Ferruccio · 10-08-2012, 07:48 PM

I would certainly like to get the inline LPFP installed, so I do not have to worry about my rapidly aging fuel pump (even though it's brand new). Is this a relatively simple installation, something that can be done from the back seat and getting one's hands wet?

jippii ensio · 10-09-2012, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted

You of all people should understand BSFC differences between RB turbos and ST setups.

RBs don't have anything to do with this.
The turbo hardware induced BSFC difference is minor. What is needed for power is octane by meth or ethanol. Selecting meth means the fuel system upgrade is not needed, especially if a proper flash, such as Procedeflash is applied. The upgrade is needed running 100% e85 without meth.

cstavaru · 10-09-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We decided to get a run of kits made first before showing the world what we did and how we did it. Hope to have something to show later this week.

Good idea, knowing BMS...

Fully_Bolted · 10-09-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Not really. It's the BSFC difference between Gasoline and Ethanol that is most relevant in this discussion.

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Originally Posted by jippii ensio

RBs don't have anything to do with this.
The turbo hardware induced BSFC difference is minor. What is needed for power is octane by meth or ethanol. Selecting meth means the fuel system upgrade is not needed, especially if a proper flash, such as Procedeflash is applied. The upgrade is needed running 100% e85 without meth.

Ok, so if somehow a set of RB's magically could produce enough volume to reach 650whp - your telling me that they would not require more fuel than your single turbo setup? Please explain

Sered · 10-09-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted

Ok, so if somehow a set of RB's magically could produce enough volume to reach 650whp - your telling me that they would not require more fuel than your single turbo setup? Please explain

Fuel is matched to airflow, doesn't matter if its one hair-dryer or two. Explain to me how two turbos flowing the same amount of air as one turbo will magically need more fuel (assuming relatively equal powerbands)?

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bigdnno98 Major Drives: 09 e92 335i MT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 1,139 iTrader: (7)	Haha, no I'm trying to run 100% e85 but my LPFP can't handle it. I need a new one but would rather buy an upgraded one over oem. That's why I need to know if its inline or a 1 for 1 replacement. Will I still need a new oem LPFP? Idk. Only testing will tell. __________________ New Project....... 2.4L Long Rod motor for my EVO 03 Evo 8 HTA3582r Blown Motor 09 e92 335i MT Sold 440hp/480tq

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pits200 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 09 335i X-Drive Black Sapphire Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,610 iTrader: (0)	He probably realizes this will be something that will quickly be copied by competitors and wants to have a very finalized product before giving anymore info. There is more to advancing a platform than just performance, it's also big money to these companies. I think we all need to remember this is a business and sometimes that gets overlooked by our excitement to gain another 10whp.

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shiv@vishnu Drives: PROcede v5 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA Posts: 16,718 iTrader: (0)	Hi guys-- we are waiting for our first run of parts from the machine shop. The prototype we had was put in joec500's car. We decided to get a run of kits made first before showing the world what we did and how we did it. Hope to have something to show later this week.

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shiv@vishnu Drives: PROcede v5 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA Posts: 16,718 iTrader: (0)	Doesn't matter what tune is used.

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Ferruccio Second Lieutenant Drives: 2010 335i Join Date: May 2011 Location: South SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 238 iTrader: (0)	I would certainly like to get the inline LPFP installed, so I do not have to worry about my rapidly aging fuel pump (even though it's brand new). Is this a relatively simple installation, something that can be done from the back seat and getting one's hands wet?