N54 Tune Comparison Chart (Detailed) - Page 12 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

whitelightning · 07-18-2012, 12:01 PM

even without this being "up to date" this still helped out a lot for someone who doesn't scour the forum everyday

thanks for all the time you saved me

AltecBX · 07-18-2012, 12:18 PM

Working on updating it!

scuber · 08-06-2012, 05:57 AM

really good info for tuner.. thanks for good job!!

Kirk Tome · 08-26-2012, 04:44 PM

Another member who has found this chart to be incredibly useful. Thanks a ton!

AltecBX · 09-05-2012, 10:40 AM

Chart has been updated..
Enjoy!!

Pe90X · 09-06-2012, 01:10 AM

AltecBX you sir are the Fk'ing man. thanx a lot for your work here bud

ippykaye · 09-11-2012, 07:26 AM

Great table mate! Thanks for posting!

unic66 · 10-09-2012, 03:41 PM

Knowing that tuners aim for a margin of safety with their tunes by running them richer than OEM,which company has the best gas mileage with say a stage 1+ tune(race gas tune) without any other modification?
I realize that it also depends on how many WOT runs you do per tankful!

VNeBLOB42 · 10-09-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by unic66

Knowing that tuners aim for a margin of safety with their tunes by running them richer than OEM,which company has the best gas mileage with say a stage 1+ tune(race gas tune) without any other modification?
I realize that it also depends on how many WOT runs you do per tankful!

That's a tough one to answer, when most tunes go for output power, and it will all depend on how the driver is, fuel mix, etc.. That's what is great about turbo cars, if you keep you foot out of it you can get great gas mileage even tuned.

Since I only have tried COBB, I can't really give a great answer. But if great gas mileage is what you are looking for, I say your best bet is going pro tuned! With the goal of best mpgs

With a few WOT and daily commute, S1+ E50, Pro E-Tune by PTF. I just calculated 18+ mpgs. Not the best, but not bad for 400 whp.

unic66 · 10-09-2012, 04:09 PM

So basically,with your Cobb tune,you lost roughly 3-4 MPGs compared to stock.
18 Mpg is very respectable for the power you have gained!

VNeBLOB42 · 10-09-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by unic66

So basically,with your Cobb tune,you lost roughly 3-4 MPGs compared to stock.
18 Mpg is very respectable for the power you have gained!

In theory yes. But that was just one calculation. I was impressed myself. I am driving far next week so I wil see how freeway mpgs go.

unic66 · 10-09-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VNeBLOB42

That's a tough one to answer, when most tunes go for output power, and it will all depend on how the driver is, fuel mix, etc.. That's what is great about turbo cars, if you keep you foot out of it you can get great gas mileage even tuned.

Since I only have tried COBB, I can't really give a great answer. But if great gas mileage is what you are looking for, I say your best bet is going pro tuned! With the goal of best mpgs

With a few WOT and daily commute, S1+ E50, Pro E-Tune by PTF. I just calculated 18+ mpgs. Not the best, but not bad for 400 whp.

PTF is ProTuningFreaks,right? Did they Email you a custom tune?
Unfortunately,Here in LA,I don't have access for flex fuels like E50 and E85 and E30;At least not readily!

VNeBLOB42 · 10-09-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by unic66

PTF is ProTuningFreaks,right? Did they Emailed you a custom tune?
Unfortunately,Here in LA,I don't have access for flex fuels like E50 and E85 and E30;At least not readily!

Yes, it's a matter of WOT logs and they send you MAPs based upon your logs, and repeat till complete.

I just looked and there are 7 E85 pump stations in the LA area. I have a few within 5 - 10 miles, so I am fortunate. Try Propel Fuels, they are based west coast. that is what I use.

unic66 · 10-09-2012, 05:01 PM

Thank you!

VNeBLOB42 · 10-09-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by unic66

Thank you!

Np

unic66 · 10-09-2012, 05:13 PM

I'm in the San Fernando Valley,unfortunately!
Do you need to convert anything to run on alternative fuels on our cars?

VNeBLOB42 · 10-09-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by unic66

I'm in the San Fernando Valley,unfortunately!
Do you need to convert anything to run on alternative fuels on our cars?

Ideally, yes, but the N54 is highly capable to run up to 50% Ethanol. But you must have a proper tune. another poster on this forum, i believe it was on the COBB thread a few pages back. He has the flex sensor installed with proceed tune. which will automatically adjust the DME per the ethanol percentages. It was interesting that he was getting inconsistent ethanol mixture rates from the same pumps. That's why every fill up i do at least 1 log to check how my car is running.

jrandallstl · 10-19-2012, 12:53 PM

This comparison is really well done, must have really taken some time.

AltecBX · 10-19-2012, 03:08 PM

Yes. I'm always working on it. I'll be updating it in the next 3 weeks.

vetkiller · 10-24-2012, 01:04 PM

New here….but need help selecting right (safest) tune to blow the doors off my D-bag neighbor with new Vet (not Z06). I don't have any other mods yet.

think I would prefer flash over PiggyBack.

thanks in advance for any advise!

vetkiller · 10-24-2012, 01:05 PM

Any problems with Cobb not remapping water pump like Dinan?

schwinnn · 10-25-2012, 06:18 AM

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10-09-2012, 03:41 PM	#250
unic66 Private First Class Drives: 2008 E90 335i 6MT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 133 iTrader: (0)	Who has the best fuel economy of all the tuners being compared here? Knowing that tuners aim for a margin of safety with their tunes by running them richer than OEM,which company has the best gas mileage with say a stage 1+ tune(race gas tune) without any other modification? I realize that it also depends on how many WOT runs you do per tankful!

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jrandallstl Registered Drives: 2009 335i M-sport Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	Thanks! This comparison is really well done, must have really taken some time.

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whitelightning New Member Drives: 2007 e92 335 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	even without this being "up to date" this still helped out a lot for someone who doesn't scour the forum everyday thanks for all the time you saved me

07-18-2012, 12:18 PM	#244
AltecBX Colonel Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,635 iTrader: (0)	Working on updating it!

08-06-2012, 05:57 AM	#245
scuber New Member Drives: 2007 335i sedan Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	really good info for tuner.. thanks for good job!!

08-26-2012, 04:44 PM	#246
Kirk Tome Enlisted Member Drives: 09 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 35 iTrader: (3)	Another member who has found this chart to be incredibly useful. Thanks a ton!

09-05-2012, 10:40 AM	#247
AltecBX Colonel Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,635 iTrader: (0)	Chart has been updated.. Enjoy!!

09-11-2012, 07:26 AM	#249
ippykaye Lieutenant Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 442 iTrader: (0)	Great table mate! Thanks for posting!

10-09-2012, 04:09 PM	#252
unic66 Private First Class Drives: 2008 E90 335i 6MT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 133 iTrader: (0)	So basically,with your Cobb tune,you lost roughly 3-4 MPGs compared to stock. 18 Mpg is very respectable for the power you have gained!

10-09-2012, 05:01 PM	#256
unic66 Private First Class Drives: 2008 E90 335i 6MT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 133 iTrader: (0)	Thank you!

10-09-2012, 05:13 PM	#258
unic66 Private First Class Drives: 2008 E90 335i 6MT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 133 iTrader: (0)	I'm in the San Fernando Valley,unfortunately! Do you need to convert anything to run on alternative fuels on our cars?

10-19-2012, 03:08 PM	#261
AltecBX Colonel Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,635 iTrader: (0)	Yes. I'm always working on it. I'll be updating it in the next 3 weeks.

10-24-2012, 01:04 PM	#262
vetkiller New Member Drives: 2009 bmw 335 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston TX Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	New here….but need help selecting right (safest) tune to blow the doors off my D-bag neighbor with new Vet (not Z06). I don't have any other mods yet. think I would prefer flash over PiggyBack. thanks in advance for any advise!

10-24-2012, 01:05 PM	#263
vetkiller New Member Drives: 2009 bmw 335 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston TX Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Any problems with Cobb not remapping water pump like Dinan?

10-25-2012, 06:18 AM	#264
schwinnn Registered Drives: 328I Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brooklyn newyork Posts: 2 iTrader: (0)	.