VRSF Exhaust Installed. Pictures Inside - Page 4 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

E90Company · 10-24-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sered

Who cares? Nearly all the exhausts "made in USA" are made in China.

You can't judge the quality of a part based on the country it's made/constructed in.

Actually it matters. Metals in China generally don't have the same quality (or quality control) domestic metals do. When we pulled VRSF pipes off a car, they had surface rust on them within 3 months of putting them on. Another car ran the AR's for a year and we pulled them, no rust at all. Does this tell you something?

I'm going off my own personal experience here, not what a particular manufacture advertizes/claims.

Tiago@VRSF · 10-24-2012, 09:10 PM

I think you're confusing surface rust with discoloration. AR's will also discolor as will any pipe. Ours may turn a different color due to the polish used but it will not rust, especially in FL.

Stucks · 10-24-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

As promised:

full 3.5" 304 grade stainless steel piping with SS304 v-band flanges & clamps as well as our lifetime guarantee

I'm surprised nobody has posted this yet,

91Octane · 10-24-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

I'm surprised nobody has posted this yet,

Nahh man.

The sound is too quiet. 3.5 single pipe is nice but damn huge 1990 Honda Civic DX muffler is so ugly.
Was a fan of VRSF products but this exhaust is just a no go...

Tiago@VRSF · 10-24-2012, 11:10 PM

We do have plans on offering a resonated/mufflerless setup in the future for those looking for a bit louder although when the muffler is fully broken in with a set of catless down pipes, I wouldn't exactly say that it's too quiet.

91Octane · 10-24-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

We do have plans on offering a resonated/mufflerless setup in the future for those looking for a bit louder although when the muffler is fully broken in with a set of catless pipes, I wouldn't exactly say that it's too quiet

Now...that would be really nice. I'll be switching to it once you have it released.

AMS stopped making this exhaust configuration for a reason...

Javier · 10-24-2012, 11:23 PM

this is a great looking exhaust, can't wait to hear it with some catless dp's

Tiago@VRSF · 10-24-2012, 11:27 PM

AMS stopped making any/every exhaust design for the 335i. It wasn't the design, it was more of the fact that they backed out of the N54 platform and the lack of sales for a $1600 exhaust.

Our muffler is actually smaller than most dual exhaust mufflers when combined and it is very free flowing (non-baffled unlike most dual muffler systems). I've heard the HPF and a couple of other "muffler delete" cars and they were way too loud/raspy/droney for my taste, but we do plan on targeting that market

Dr. G · 10-25-2012, 03:37 AM

There's already like 5 new exhausts ready to go for the loud lovers haha, it's nice to see something more tame, it may just be what I needed for what I had in mind. I never watched the video yet though I'm just going off what the last couple comments said so maybe it's not even as tame as people are making it out to be.

Tiago are all these parts from Chinese or Taiwanese manufacturers?

Also is there any chance you had interest in developing new products if I were to provide some ideas and if necessary contacts to manufacturers who can transform the ideas to real life?

Tiago@VRSF · 10-25-2012, 07:37 AM

PM me and we can talk

DallasBoosted · 10-25-2012, 08:23 AM

+1 VRSF, I'm In, will report to the forums when I have some results/videos of the exhaust.

bimmertt · 10-25-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 91Octane

Now...that would be really nice. I'll be switching to it once you have it released.

AMS stopped making this exhaust configuration for a reason...

AMS priced their exhaust terribly and no one bought it. I thought it was one of the best sounding exhausts in the market but there was no way I was paying what they wanted.

This exhaust looks like a great alternative.

Markyd83 · 10-25-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertt

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91Octane

Now...that would be really nice. I'll be switching to it once you have it released.

AMS stopped making this exhaust configuration for a reason...

AMS priced their exhaust terribly and no one bought it. I thought it was one of the best sounding exhausts in the market but there was no way I was paying what they wanted.

My ams exhaust sounds awesome with downpipes. I have gotten so many compliments from all types of car people. It's ashame they font make it anymore.

I'm curious to hear this setup as well with dps

brainskill · 10-25-2012, 12:26 PM

Looks and sounds nice.

Tiago@VRSF · 10-25-2012, 01:30 PM

4 of these have been shipped with most of them being bundles, you guys will definitely have a few catless clips to go by soon

psmitty95 · 10-25-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

We do have plans on offering a resonated/mufflerless setup in the future for those looking for a bit louder although when the muffler is fully broken in with a set of catless down pipes, I wouldn't exactly say that it's too quiet.

I might be interested in this. Too quiet is the only reason I haven't jumped on this yet... To me the HPF exhaust sounds perfect, loud but with very little rasp. Some rasp is fine but I like as little as possible while still having a loud and deep noise. I'm either going to wait to hear some catless clips or wait for this second setup your planning. If you need someone to test fit the second setup late me know hahah

Stucks · 10-25-2012, 04:02 PM

The quiet factor is what makes this exhaust more appealing to me. Bump in performance without unbearable noise lol. Everyone has different noise tolerance levels though, different strokes for different folks.

Hisam135i · 10-25-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

I'm honestly not avoiding it. I'm just avoiding answering triggz. He serves no purpose in here but to be a pest and the mods have already removed an entire page of his trolling.

I've stated plenty of times that most of our products are made overseas and I've always been open to it. These are made in China along with 90% of the other major brands that sell on this forum. ETS & AR are the only ones that make their products domestically.

We offer a lifetime warranty and I'll guarantee the product will outlast the ownership of your vehicle. With a lifetime warranty on fitment and durability there's nothing to worry about. If for someone reason someone decides to discriminate a product based on it's origin then there's nothing I can do but you should realize that the computer you're currently using along with almost all of the items you use on a day to day basis was probably made in the same country these pipes are coming from.

AR makes great products and I'd definitely recommend them if our pipes were unavailable for purchase. With that said, we've sold over 400 sets of these pipes and have dozens of glowing reviews.

Its sad how people automatically associate china with low quality, when in reality almost everything is made there

nice work keep it up you guys are doing great

mave198 · 10-25-2012, 06:01 PM

Excuse me if this is a stupid question (probably is) but does this exhaust paird with catless DP's make the car totally catless or are the secondary cats still used.......

Stucks · 10-25-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mave198

Excuse me if this is a stupid question (probably is) but does this exhaust paird with catless DP's make the car totally catless or are the secondary cats still used.......

after the catless downpipes and this exhaust, it would be a fully catless exhaust system.

Shadow007 · 10-26-2012, 01:56 PM

Aww man your sales are about to go into over drive. Now I can finally afford an exhaust without paying $1500+ or buying a used one...Eff Yea...now you should develop coil overs and just start a take over for the aftermarket area... Im definitly getting one of these...

335si · 10-26-2012, 02:16 PM

I'm in for one after I hear a totally catless car. Post up a video!

10-24-2012, 11:23 PM	#73
Javier Major Drives: 335i E92 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,089 iTrader: (0)	this is a great looking exhaust, can't wait to hear it with some catless dp's __________________ 2007 328i Crimson Red SOLD 2010 335i MSport AW E92

10-24-2012, 11:27 PM	#74
Tiago@VRSF BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E92 335i, E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 2,823 iTrader: (62) Garage List 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00] 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	AMS stopped making any/every exhaust design for the 335i. It wasn't the design, it was more of the fact that they backed out of the N54 platform and the lack of sales for a $1600 exhaust. Our muffler is actually smaller than most dual exhaust mufflers when combined and it is very free flowing (non-baffled unlike most dual muffler systems). I've heard the HPF and a couple of other "muffler delete" cars and they were way too loud/raspy/droney for my taste, but we do plan on targeting that market Last edited by Tiago@VRSF; 10-24-2012 at 11:33 PM.

10-25-2012, 03:37 AM	#75
Dr. G Brigadier General Drives: Black e92 335i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 4,569 iTrader: (32) Garage List e92 BMW 335i [4.30]	There's already like 5 new exhausts ready to go for the loud lovers haha, it's nice to see something more tame, it may just be what I needed for what I had in mind. I never watched the video yet though I'm just going off what the last couple comments said so maybe it's not even as tame as people are making it out to be. Tiago are all these parts from Chinese or Taiwanese manufacturers? Also is there any chance you had interest in developing new products if I were to provide some ideas and if necessary contacts to manufacturers who can transform the ideas to real life? __________________ JB4 / OSS Angel Eyes / Downpipes / F1-Racewerks FMIC / Custom Meth Kit / BMS DCI / ER Chargepipe / HKS BOV / BMS Meth Elbow / BMW Performance Exhaust / Carbon Fiber Inlay Quad Tips / 19" Miro 111 / Front Aero Lip / M3 Sides / VRS CSL Trunk / Mtech Rear / DD CF Quad Finned Diffuser / LCI Tails / BBK / Smoked Reflectors / F1 Euphoria LED Interior / License LED's / GT 5000k Corners / 5000k HID Fogs / Air Scoops / LED Turn Signals / LED SideMarkers / FK Silverline Coilovers / HPA endlinks / Vibrant Resonators

10-25-2012, 04:02 PM	#83
Stucks Captain Drives: 2008 E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montgomery County, MD Posts: 979 iTrader: (6)	The quiet factor is what makes this exhaust more appealing to me. Bump in performance without unbearable noise lol. Everyone has different noise tolerance levels though, different strokes for different folks. __________________ Current: 2008 e92 335i coupe. FBO+e85. Stock exhaust, no meth. 421whp/457wtq Previous: 2003 Honda Accord V6 coupe: AEM V2, zex 75 wet shot (sold)

10-26-2012, 01:56 PM	#87
Shadow007 Private First Class Drives: 2009 335i coupe monaco blue Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Good Ol Deutschland Posts: 182 iTrader: (1)	Aww man your sales are about to go into over drive. Now I can finally afford an exhaust without paying $1500+ or buying a used one...Eff Yea...now you should develop coil overs and just start a take over for the aftermarket area... Im definitly getting one of these... __________________ E92 Monaco Blue AT 335I/ JB4/ BMS DCI/ ER CP w/ Synaspe BOV/ M2 Exhaust/VRSF Dp's/ ETS 5' Fmic/ BMS Oil Catch Can/ Coolingmist CMGS Autolearn Meth Kit/ VMR V710/ ST V1 Coilovers/BMS Spacers/Aero Lip/M3 Spoiler/ P3 Gauge/Alpine MSS 10k HID ae kit/3k HID Fogs/ interior led upgrade/ painted reflectors/ black kidney grills A never ending money pit

10-24-2012, 09:10 PM	#68
Tiago@VRSF BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E92 335i, E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 2,823 iTrader: (62) Garage List 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00] 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	I think you're confusing surface rust with discoloration. AR's will also discolor as will any pipe. Ours may turn a different color due to the polish used but it will not rust, especially in FL.

10-24-2012, 11:10 PM	#71
Tiago@VRSF BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E92 335i, E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 2,823 iTrader: (62) Garage List 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00] 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	We do have plans on offering a resonated/mufflerless setup in the future for those looking for a bit louder although when the muffler is fully broken in with a set of catless down pipes, I wouldn't exactly say that it's too quiet.

10-25-2012, 07:37 AM	#76
Tiago@VRSF BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E92 335i, E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 2,823 iTrader: (62) Garage List 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00] 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	PM me and we can talk

10-25-2012, 08:23 AM	#77
DallasBoosted Captain Drives: '08 E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Dallas Posts: 713 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [5.00]	+1 VRSF, I'm In, will report to the forums when I have some results/videos of the exhaust.

10-25-2012, 12:26 PM	#80
brainskill Registered Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Seattle Posts: 3 iTrader: (0)	Looks and sounds nice.

10-25-2012, 01:30 PM	#81
Tiago@VRSF BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E92 335i, E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 2,823 iTrader: (62) Garage List 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00] 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	4 of these have been shipped with most of them being bundles, you guys will definitely have a few catless clips to go by soon

10-25-2012, 06:01 PM	#85
mave198 First Lieutenant Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brooklyn NYC Posts: 371 iTrader: (2)	Excuse me if this is a stupid question (probably is) but does this exhaust paird with catless DP's make the car totally catless or are the secondary cats still used.......

10-26-2012, 02:16 PM	#88
335si Private First Class Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2009 Location: earth Posts: 170 iTrader: (0)	I'm in for one after I hear a totally catless car. Post up a video! __________________ 2007 BMW 335i Cpe AW 6MT - All Stock 1972 Yamaha R5 (350 2-stroke)

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