Fastest non M BMW? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Bimmer07 · 11-06-2012, 02:55 AM

Hey guys does anybody know what is the fastest Stock Non M Bmw out there as of 2012?

Fastest from 0-60 , 1/4 mile, etc...

VTECaddict · 11-06-2012, 03:38 AM

Probably 135is DCT

cuiter23 · 11-06-2012, 03:42 AM

The Z4 35is dct is fast

splitsecond · 11-06-2012, 04:25 AM

Yeah, probably the Z4 sdrive35is DCT and other variants of the Z4 sdrive35i.

Or the Z8.

Or the 650i.

http://www.zeroto60times.com/BMW-Bim...mph-Times.html
According to that website, the sdrive35is can do 0-60 faster than the M3.

Dark_Knight_335 · 11-06-2012, 07:50 AM

Mine.

ken1137 · 11-06-2012, 08:10 AM

The 135is and Z4 35is have the same engine and are about the same so it depends on the driver:
Wt goes to 135is @ 3439 (about 100lbs lighter).
Hp goes to Z4 35is @ 335hp/5900 rpms (15 hp more).
torque goes to Z4 35is @ 332/1500 (15 more).
0-60 same 4.8 seconds (if DCT for 135is).
1/4 mi guessing about 12.8 for both.

I have had the opportunity to drive both. The z4 I drove was a modified Eissenman version, very fast, and lots of fun. My 135i was modified with 400 rwhp (FBO + Cobb Stage II), very fast, loads of fun, put a smile on my face each time i drove, and very tossible. Both are excellent cars, but since I have owned a 135 I will probably buy a Z4 35is at some point in the future.

I dont think the Z8 counts...the one I saw was powered by the M V-8 engine.

FormerRotor · 11-06-2012, 08:29 AM

Although its a far cry from the "lightweight" (for BMW) vehicles listed above, what about the 07/08 Alpina b7s? I thought they we running about the same 1/4 mile (12.8), and a 180 mph+ top speed to boot.

I assume that you excluded 2013 models because of the new variants being released? I think there are several heading down the pipeline which should greatly exceed the pre-2012 numbers, but such is the nature of the game.

Ps, I don't see why the z8 shouldn't count. It is, after all, a very fast "stock non-m" released before 2012 per OP (albeit a pricey one).

ihc95 · 11-06-2012, 10:59 AM

new 650i. 450hp

Sara504 · 11-06-2012, 11:01 AM

Yodaime lol

kbryce · 11-06-2012, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splitsecond

Yeah, probably the Z4 sdrive35is DCT and other variants of the Z4 sdrive35i.

Or the Z8.

Or the 650i.

http://www.zeroto60times.com/BMW-Bim...mph-Times.html
According to that website, the sdrive35is can do 0-60 faster than the M3.

the z8 did have the engine from the e39 m5. my money's on that. if we're talking about stock cars at least

or the new 6 series

FormerRotor · 11-06-2012, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihc95

new 650i. 450hp

Good point. Its Powerful, but certainly the convertible is not the fastest (per Edmunds)...
Track Test Results
Acceleration, 0-30 mph (sec.) 2.0
0-45 mph (sec.) 3.3
0-60 mph (sec.) 4.9
0-75 mph (sec.) 6.9
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 13.1

I wasn't able to find the stats on the coupe but someone will chime in.

edirtaynine · 11-06-2012, 11:51 AM

because a drag race is what life is all about.

FormerRotor · 11-06-2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edirtaynine

because a drag race is what life is all about.

Lol. Of course not, but I believe the request was "fastest", so we should technically only be looking at top speed (also not life's best measurement of general automotive driving pleasure). It is also difficult to objectively quantify handling without having at least all vehicles on the same rack in the same conditions with the same driver. Even then, how was the drivers day? Do you have a better method of comparison? We could add skidpad, slalom, & braking numbers to the comparison, but that could add a layer of confusion.

Simlarly, I'm sure the numbers are all skewed by DCT or manual gearbox (another place for a heated topic about life pleasures to be found behind the wheel). The manual 650 coupe per road and track was about a half second slower than the auto in a 1/4, but many would argue more pleasurable to drive.

PKizzle · 11-06-2012, 12:17 PM

335is!!

60 in 4.5 and the 1/4 in 13 at 108/109 mph. Should be on par or faster than the 135is because of the overboost that the 135is does not have.

D_o_S · 11-06-2012, 12:24 PM

What about 760i?

tres · 11-06-2012, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKizzle

335is!!

60 in 4.5 and the 1/4 in 13 at 108/109 mph. Should be on par or faster than the 135is because of the overboost that the 135is does not have.

bmwforme · 11-06-2012, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_o_S

What about 760i?

BMW also understates their 60 to times.. but the 760Li is rated at 4.5... interesting and you know it would slaughter 1/4 mile times of a 6 cylinder car.. turbos can't help you there. Hard to find 1/4 mile times for that car though, I can understand why haha

I always thought a TTV12 couldn't do much for a 5,000 pound car before 60.. but then again a TTV12 should be the the low 3 seconds, (Like Aventador) but this car packs 1,500+ pounds more so the numbers do make sense.

BuraQ · 11-06-2012, 01:29 PM

The N54 135i

The Low Key OG · 11-06-2012, 01:30 PM

2013 Alpina B7. 0-60 in 4.2, 1/4 in 12.6. Top speed of 194.

Bimmer07 · 11-06-2012, 05:56 PM

I wish it was e92 335i lol

Dozhdbog · 11-06-2012, 06:04 PM

I had a fun little traffic light to traffic light run against a new 650i last night. I matched him, which surprised both of us.

E90_boostjunky · 11-06-2012, 07:30 PM

McLaren F1 if that counts!
0-60 3.2 Seconds
1/4 11.6
It has a BMW S70 V12 engine

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11-06-2012, 04:25 AM	#4
splitsecond Space Admiral Drives: 135i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 305 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	Yeah, probably the Z4 sdrive35is DCT and other variants of the Z4 sdrive35i. Or the Z8. Or the 650i. http://www.zeroto60times.com/BMW-Bim...mph-Times.html According to that website, the sdrive35is can do 0-60 faster than the M3. __________________ 2008 135i Montego Blue sport pkg, premium pkg, Logic 7 sound, iDrive/Nav Mods completed: JB4+ & FBO \|\| LSD \|\| BMW-P suspension + F/R sway bars \|\| 18" Breyton GTS-R \|\| M3 front bushings \|\| Vogtland camber plates \|\| BMW-P rotors + Stoptech pads \|\|\|\| Acquired, not installed: BMS WW Meth kit \|\| Logic HVI intake \|\| Mishimoto OCC \|\|\|\| Shopping for: Summer tires

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11-06-2012, 08:10 AM	#6
ken1137 Colonel Drives: a slow 2009 e90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,343 iTrader: (6) Garage List 2009 335i (e90) [2.17]	The 135is and Z4 35is have the same engine and are about the same so it depends on the driver: Wt goes to 135is @ 3439 (about 100lbs lighter). Hp goes to Z4 35is @ 335hp/5900 rpms (15 hp more). torque goes to Z4 35is @ 332/1500 (15 more). 0-60 same 4.8 seconds (if DCT for 135is). 1/4 mi guessing about 12.8 for both. I have had the opportunity to drive both. The z4 I drove was a modified Eissenman version, very fast, and lots of fun. My 135i was modified with 400 rwhp (FBO + Cobb Stage II), very fast, loads of fun, put a smile on my face each time i drove, and very tossible. Both are excellent cars, but since I have owned a 135 I will probably buy a Z4 35is at some point in the future. I dont think the Z8 counts...the one I saw was powered by the M V-8 engine. __________________ BMWCCA member Last edited by ken1137; 11-06-2012 at 08:13 AM. Reason: comment

11-06-2012, 08:29 AM	#7
FormerRotor Captain Drives: 2011 335d, M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: MD Posts: 894 iTrader: (2)	Although its a far cry from the "lightweight" (for BMW) vehicles listed above, what about the 07/08 Alpina b7s? I thought they we running about the same 1/4 mile (12.8), and a 180 mph+ top speed to boot. I assume that you excluded 2013 models because of the new variants being released? I think there are several heading down the pipeline which should greatly exceed the pre-2012 numbers, but such is the nature of the game. Ps, I don't see why the z8 shouldn't count. It is, after all, a very fast "stock non-m" released before 2012 per OP (albeit a pricey one). __________________ 2011 e90 335d 2007 e70 x5 4.8i Join BMW CCA! (Use my link and I get credit )

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PKizzle Private First Class Drives: '11 335is, '99 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 175 iTrader: (0)	335is!! 60 in 4.5 and the 1/4 in 13 at 108/109 mph. Should be on par or faster than the 135is because of the overboost that the 135is does not have.

11-06-2012, 12:24 PM	#15
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11-06-2012, 07:30 PM	#22
E90_boostjunky Major Drives: BMW 335I E90 SGM Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA, IL Posts: 1,232 iTrader: (1)	McLaren F1 if that counts! 0-60 3.2 Seconds 1/4 11.6 It has a BMW S70 V12 engine

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