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      11-08-2012, 11:36 AM   #23
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I stand corrected on the split. I wonder why S4 is never compared to 335 xi?
I was under the impression that Quattro is a performance tool and xdrive is a traction/inclement weather aid? I've been wrong before.
when car and driver compared s4 to 335i, they said X-drive will only hurt the times due to extra weight and none-sport suspension.
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x drive is the way to go. i went through Sandy's flaky sister last night and this morning with ease.
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Yup. You'll love it. Your first day in snow will blow you away.
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x drive is the way to go. i went through Sandy's flaky sister last night and this morning with ease.
Yup! Had some snowy slush here last night and i put it to the test. Flooring it and taking turns was very impressive to say the least. Coming from a RWD E46 which was a nightmare in bad weather, the XI is an awesome machine.
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Okay, i'll weigh in... I took my 335i E90 Xdrive to a fast paced event at NJMP Lightning raceway at the end of August this year. It absolutely blew some other cars out of the water - we were all beginners but i was flying by cars left and right that were purely RWD. This is my first AWD car, and it behaves like a RWD car but better on corner exits. I had more confidence than most when it started raining on the track as well. I had complete confidence when it was dry and just slammed the accelerator down to the floor past the apex and it just went exactly where I wanted it to go. My car is stock in terms of suspension/brakes which really surprised me how well you can take a corner at 80mph with your foot to the floor! I've had to turn traction control off only at one level because I didn't want to turn it off entirely. It surely helps to keep the car straight with some approved wheel spin. This has been the best all around car i've ever owned.

It was launched hard brake boosting at the 1/4 tracks as well. I video taped people watching me launch and their jaws dropped... its my family car, my daily driver, my snow plow, my weekend racer. What more can you ask from a car????

Here's a couple vids..









Forward this one to the 7 min. mark... they had an issue on the track and i couldn't stop the camera with my helmet on etc...

LOL all the hillbillies think that their POS 1970 Mustang is all that. I seriously cant stand those muscle cars, sounds like shit, looks like shit, drives like shit.
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First time 4 wheel drive car owner here. Recently purchased an XI and just breaking it in and so far so good. From your experiences how good really is our XI's or Xdrives compared to other makes?? Feel free to share any experiences where you couldn't have done without it.
i also have an xi and my problem is supspension is expensive and you have to do alot of custom parts to get them low, also they handle really well and iv had no problems with mine so far good luck with yours bud, good to see another xi owner out there
Really? I have an e92 335xi and I just put a set of KW V1 coilovers on it an called it a day. Handles nicely and wasn't too expensive. I can get my car plenty low with them.

As for m3 control arms and other suspension linkage parts, we do kind of lose out on compatibility of those.
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That 3rd video is funny.

"For a three.......for a three twenty.....................eight I."

Man, I wish my 328i could do 12s. lol
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That 3rd video is funny.

"For a three.......for a three twenty.....................eight I."

Man, I wish my 328i could do 12s. lol
it can, put a nice set of turbos in there
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That 3rd video is funny.

"For a three.......for a three twenty.....................eight I."

Man, I wish my 328i could do 12s. lol
haha yeah everytime i put this vid up somebody mention the dude lol.
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Yup! Had some snowy slush here last night and i put it to the test. Flooring it and taking turns was very impressive to say the least. Coming from a RWD E46 which was a nightmare in bad weather, the XI is an awesome machine.
People who have never driven awd don't get how good it is in the snow.
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LOL all the hillbillies think that their POS 1970 Mustang is all that. I seriously cant stand those muscle cars, sounds like shit, looks like shit, drives like shit.
Thats funny. I wonder what THEY all thought of BMW boy? I have a pretty good idea. Looks like a fun day though.
Most people love the way muscle cars sound. I know I would rather listen to a v8 than an I6 any day.
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they loved it for the most part, because they are not use to seeing a BMW at these events lol. Usually its the same ol boring mustangs, vets and old muscle cars that break down every so often... It was priceless to see their jaws drop as i pull around for another run lol.
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      11-09-2012, 10:31 AM   #34
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they loved it for the most part, because they are not use to seeing a BMW at these events lol. Usually its the same ol boring mustangs, vets and old muscle cars that break down every so often... It was priceless to see their jaws drop as i pull around for another run lol.
It must have been a great day. Nothing like a track day.
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Thats funny. I wonder what THEY all thought of BMW boy? I have a pretty good idea. Looks like a fun day though.
Most people love the way muscle cars sound. I know I would rather listen to a v8 than an I6 any day.
Of course I would take a refined v8 over an I6 anyday, the one's in their cars sound like fartcans.

I could care less about how they thought. In the end I drive the better car, in my opinion. They would be deluded to think otherwise.
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they loved it for the most part, because they are not use to seeing a BMW at these events lol. Usually its the same ol boring mustangs, vets and old muscle cars that break down every so often... It was priceless to see their jaws drop as i pull around for another run lol.
So by what margin did you actually take them by??
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I have an XI in LA California where there is absolutely no snow fall and rarely rain (the car came from New Jersey). Never owned a RWD car but isn't a problem to me, it can take corners like a boss with little loss of traction lol just need KWs to keep it stable and get rid of the ugly XI height. And when I get bored I take out a fuse to make it RWD but then I lose all Traction, ABS, of course 4x4 so all the lights on the instrument panel light up lol. along with seat belt light, brake light, flickers don't turn off after turning, windshield wipers turn on sometimes, speedo doesn't work, Mpg doesn't work, and the steering wheel buttons don't work. But once the fuse is back in it all works again!!!! lol fun times without that fuse though. It's fuse #20 for me not sure for the 328xi
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And when I get bored I take out a fuse to make it RWD
I'm trying this over the weekend.
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I'm trying this over the weekend.
Lol! make sure you wet your tires or something, mine wouldn't peel out because either tires are too fat (255..they aren't that fat ), they're still new (had them for about 2 months barely drive the car), or it was on asfalt. Not sure lol but donuts are insane. My friend could do it on his bone stock 330i no problem I'm guessing because his tires are old, almost same cars except mine is 330xi.
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I stand corrected on the split. I wonder why S4 is never compared to 335 xi?
I was under the impression that Quattro is a performance tool and xdrive is a traction/inclement weather aid? I've been wrong before.


The xDrive does not feel like an FWD. I'd say the regular Quattro and SH-AWD cars feel like FWD cars.

It has 40/60 split, but since it has a electronically controlled clutch actuated center diff, it can send up to 100% of the power to either axle and can do so in milli seconds!

The Quattro cannot do this! (I believe it's 75% max for quattro) So in terms of sports car feel and RWD biased-ness, the xDrive is superior hands down!

Lets not even consider the nose heavy nature of the Audi's in general.

In terms of snow performance, I can't comment on the Quattro since I haven't driven one in the snow. But I can stay that I have never had any trouble with my 335xi in the past 4 winters, even when purposely trying to drive and drift over deeper snow in a plaza to see if it gets stuck!

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My problem with having a RWD car in areas that have defined seasons or mild winters is the "in between" time. When it's consistently cold and snowy, my rwd e90 with snow tires as good or better than either of our other two cars with all seasons. One is a FWD honda and the other an AWD Lexus RX350. But when it's 30-40 degrees and dry on the roads like in spring or fall or when the temp swings from 30-60 every other day, driving my car with either snows or summer performance tires sucks. The summers don't grip well at those low temps and can be stiff and noisy. Those temps are also really too high for winters and they are squishy and noisy as a result. But yeah it's brilliant in hot summer and dead of winter. I suspect an xdrive with all seasons would handle spring/fall better.

As far as "feel" goes, I can tell the difference in steering feel and body roll between the xi and the RWD models. My rwd car has the sports suspension.
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they loved it for the most part, because they are not use to seeing a BMW at these events lol. Usually its the same ol boring mustangs, vets and old muscle cars that break down every so often... It was priceless to see their jaws drop as i pull around for another run lol.
So by what margin did you actually take them by??
Nobody wanted to race me... I did 13 runs and only 4 cars pulled up next to me...

I got my ass handed to my by a low 12 sec nitrous run dodge charger and a mustang cobra by .2 sec or so. Otherwise I just took the black car as you can see I reeled in at the end in that in-car vid...

It wasn't the best day to run and I did back to back runs ... It was 100F at 7pm and humid!
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it can, put a nice set of turbos in there
haha. It's ok. I heard in 2013, running mid 14s is the new 10.
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My XI is the first AWD car Ive owned and I must say, I miss RWD. I live in a Alaska where we get piles of snow but with the proper tires and not driving like an idiot go a long way. Will an XI be better in the winter? No doubt about it, but RWD works just fine too, plus it can be alot of fun in the winter and you dont have to carry the extra weight around in the dry months.

If I would do it again, I may have looked at a 135i or 335i more closely. With cars there always this struggle in my head about form vs function, form has won out alot of times in my life but I dont regret getting an XI.
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