E90Post
 


Bimmertech
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > UK > Obd Security Fix Available Now !!!



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-08-2012, 02:40 PM   #45
dxb335d
The Tarmac Terrorist
 
dxb335d's Avatar
 
Drives: E46 M3 CS
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ''Fandango Towers''

Posts: 29,262
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Where can one go to get the OBD relocated?
__________________
M3 gone .... But I now have a M3 CS
dxb335d is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      11-08-2012, 03:12 PM   #46
AlwynMike
Captain
 
Drives: E91 335d.
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Shropshire, UK

Posts: 933
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dxb335d View Post
Where can one go to get the OBD relocated?
Your own drive

Really it's a 15 minute job with a Phillips screwdriver, and maybe a torch.

Mike
AlwynMike is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-08-2012, 03:32 PM   #47
doughboy
Major General
 
doughboy's Avatar
 
Drives: E91 335i Sold.
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK

Posts: 6,370
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by makkan00 View Post
Good explanation. This is what they are taught to do.
There is a way around it. Advance coding/ updating, where you can only update what you want to....
Of course, there's always an 'advanced' option, but 99.9% of the time your car will get plugged in by the BMW tech and he'll hit the 'update' button, then go and start on another job....
__________________
335i gone E63 AMG here at last!
doughboy is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-09-2012, 11:18 AM   #48
Sparky68
Colonel
 
Sparky68's Avatar
 
Drives: e90 335i JB4
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cambs

Posts: 2,945
iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [0.00]
Just spoke to my local indy, he was talking about the fix which apparently simply removes the 7 "keys" that BMW sell the car with.
__________________


JB4 G5 iso - Borla Catback Exhaust - Active Autowerks Chargepipe and BOV - BMS Intake - Alpina Gearbox Flash - Apex Springs - Koni Shocks -BBS LM Reps Whiteline Rear subframe bushes BMS Meth kit waiting to go on
Sparky68 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-09-2012, 12:43 PM   #49
Dragon88
Private First Class
 
Dragon88's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW E92 320i M-Sport
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: West London

Posts: 164
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by makkan00 View Post
Can you kindly verify if your windows drop from remote after this 'update'?

Thanks.
They do, which leads me to wonder whether they actually carried out the fix?
Dragon88 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-09-2012, 12:48 PM   #50
RichJ
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M-Sport 330i Le Mans Blue
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South

Posts: 346
iTrader: (0)

Mine's booked in for Tuesday for this fix but apparently some dealers are having problems implementing the update.... we'll have to wait and see!
RichJ is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 07:33 AM   #51
khurmit
Private First Class
 
khurmit's Avatar
 
Drives: '07 335i & '07 530d M Sport
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Berkshire, England

Posts: 137
iTrader: (0)

This might be of interest - confirmation that the security update is basically just stopping the windows from dropping.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf scan0001.pdf (654.9 KB, 1400 views)
File Type: pdf scan0002.pdf (616.1 KB, 449 views)
File Type: pdf scan0003.pdf (398.1 KB, 365 views)
khurmit is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 07:48 AM   #52
makkan00
Major General
 
makkan00's Avatar
 
Drives: E91 330D
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

Posts: 6,797
iTrader: (47)

Quote:
Originally Posted by khurmit View Post
This might be of interest - confirmation that the security update is basically just stopping the windows from dropping.
Thanks for posting.

Interesting to read and following is my understanding,
1- They are de-activating the window drop by the key in the door lock but retaining the window drop by remote.
2- They are carrying it out on CAS and no other modules should be altered (good for those who have 'Engine enhancements maps').
3- Pre 2007 cars are not affected is a bull shit.
__________________
makkan00 is online now   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 08:04 AM   #53
PaulR
New Member
 
Drives: E92 330d M-Sport Auto
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucestershire

Posts: 20
iTrader: (0)

Thanks for posting the details.

Looks like I'll carry on and fit that dummy OBD port then.
PaulR is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 08:07 AM   #54
Squintstream
Lieutenant
 
Squintstream's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i M Sport avec DCT (E92)
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Derby

Posts: 482
iTrader: (12)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dxb335d View Post
Where can one go to get the OBD relocated?
Mate, have a look here http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/...-port-t117279/ it really is a 10 minute job
Squintstream is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 08:16 AM   #55
makkan00
Major General
 
makkan00's Avatar
 
Drives: E91 330D
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

Posts: 6,797
iTrader: (47)

Quote:
Originally Posted by khurmit View Post
This might be of interest - confirmation that the security update is basically just stopping the windows from dropping.
P2 of it states
Claims will be processed and settled subject to current warranty terms.


If you car is older than 01/03/07 and under extended warranty, push your dealer to upgrade CAS of your car.



(Though there is no point of this, as they can smash the window and take your car if OBD is not hidden. )
__________________
makkan00 is online now   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 08:20 AM   #56
makkan00
Major General
 
makkan00's Avatar
 
Drives: E91 330D
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

Posts: 6,797
iTrader: (47)

Labour: 10 FRUs (for software update only).

Does anybody know if 1 FRU = 15 minutes.


And if your car is there for servicing / repair than 8 FRUs.


Interesting!!!
__________________
makkan00 is online now   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 09:50 AM   #57
PaulR
New Member
 
Drives: E92 330d M-Sport Auto
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucestershire

Posts: 20
iTrader: (0)

I'm seem to recall something on Pistonheads that said that in BMW speak there were 12 Flat Rate Units in an hour.

I.e. 1 FRU = 5 minutes.

I could be wrong though.
PaulR is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 11:24 AM   #58
335DEE
Captain
 
335DEE's Avatar
 
Drives: 335d
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: England

Posts: 734
iTrader: (1)

Pre March 2007 built cars do not utilise the Canbus protocol. You can tell this by checking your OBD port. If you do not have pins in 6 & 14 then you are running the older k-line protocol. BMW switched to canbus mar '07.

Whether this protocol suffers the same issue with key coding is a question I would like answered .. but the fix required would mean a completely new software patch tailored to an obsolete protocol and as its older than 6 years BMW deem it not worth the effort as it only covers 18 months worth of production. Whereas the post mar 07 canbus ones cover 6 years worth of production.
335DEE is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 06:34 AM   #59
scottishpete
Lieutenant
 
Drives: e92 325d m sport coupe
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: aberdeen

Posts: 545
iTrader: (3)

I dont have a lock on my door as i put on the Left hand drive passanger cover,so pointless me getting the so called fix in too much of a hurry?
scottishpete is offline   Scotland
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 09:42 AM   #60
RichJ
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M-Sport 330i Le Mans Blue
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South

Posts: 346
iTrader: (0)

So this does not include a full software update then, just a related element?
RichJ is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 12:10 PM   #61
xPETEZx
Lieutenant
 
Drives: BMW 325i SE 6MT (E90 LCI)
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London

Posts: 530
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottishpete View Post
I dont have a lock on my door as i put on the Left hand drive passanger cover,so pointless me getting the so called fix in too much of a hurry?
Love this idea!

Did you just order a left hand door handle and fit it over the top of the lock?
Or did you actually remove the lock?

Here's hoping your fob never runs out of juice when the other fob is not around.

Reading those 3 pages really does disappoint. How did it take them 8 WEEKS to cook up a fix that only disables the window role down??
I am not sure I can even be bothered... (if my insurance contact me I suppose ill have to)
Hidden ODB port, with fake in its place = win.
xPETEZx is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 02:57 PM   #62
acerboo
Brigadier General
 
Drives: e92 335d lci
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: kent

Posts: 3,627
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwynMike View Post
My dealer offered one (although the car is in for some trim repair under warranty - which will take roughly 25 seconds to fix!!).
SA said that depending on what other software was on the car, it updated more than one module, and was not only the security fix, so could take up to 3 hours.

They are picking the car up and delivering it back when it's done (a 38 mile round trip)

Mike
that will get a good thrashing then!
acerboo is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 03:01 PM   #63
acerboo
Brigadier General
 
Drives: e92 335d lci
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: kent

Posts: 3,627
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulR View Post
I'm seem to recall something on Pistonheads that said that in BMW speak there were 12 Flat Rate Units in an hour.

I.e. 1 FRU = 5 minutes.

I could be wrong though.
i thought a FRU was a German bird!
acerboo is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 04:47 PM   #64
makkan00
Major General
 
makkan00's Avatar
 
Drives: E91 330D
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

Posts: 6,797
iTrader: (47)

Quote:
Originally Posted by o0timbo0o View Post
Pre March 2007 built cars do not utilise the Canbus protocol. You can tell this by checking your OBD port. If you do not have pins in 6 & 14 then you are running the older k-line protocol. BMW switched to canbus mar '07.

Whether this protocol suffers the same issue with key coding is a question I would like answered .. but the fix required would mean a completely new software patch tailored to an obsolete protocol and as its older than 6 years BMW deem it not worth the effort as it only covers 18 months worth of production. Whereas the post mar 07 canbus ones cover 6 years worth of production.

If you read this thread and some other threads carefully, you will find out that it does not matter if your car is Canbus or K-Line protocol. Keys can be clonned on K-Line cars as well.
__________________
makkan00 is online now   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 06:15 PM   #65
335DEE
Captain
 
335DEE's Avatar
 
Drives: 335d
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: England

Posts: 734
iTrader: (1)

I don't doubt you, I was merely speculating as to why they are not bothering with a patch for pre March 07 cars and the reason why Mar 07 is the date of choice
335DEE is offline   England
0
Reply With Quote
      11-12-2012, 02:32 AM   #66
TripleBlack
First Lieutenant
 
TripleBlack's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 BMW E93 335i
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: London

Posts: 323
iTrader: (0)

Disappointing news.
More reason to get one of those securemycar alarm jobs, or have the port physically disabled. After more research and feedback from people who have had the job, I will decide if I should negotiate with my insurance company about the update. I'd rather not have functions of my car disabled just so BMW can get away with this cock up.
Fitting a recognised alarm and getting them to approve my request to avoid the update; in writing should be enough.
TripleBlack is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST