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      11-11-2012, 07:32 PM   #67
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I have a 335 x drive. Just swapped on my winter wheels (vmr vb3 18 with Dunlop sport winters). No issues with the Chicago winters. Love it.
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my x drive failed me last year. had to be pulled out with the hook

that looks like a super slushy mess, i could see it getting stuck in that. If its the michelin alpin pa3's or another performance winter tire, they arent great in deeper snow, better for light dustings.
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that looks like a super slushy mess, i could see it getting stuck in that. If its the michelin alpin pa3's or another performance winter tire, they arent great in deeper snow, better for light dustings.
as i can see u live in mtl too so i guess you know how bad it gets sometimes!
they were PA2 i believe
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To answer the original question the x1 28i with M-sport package is a pretty good ride.

There are a number of comparable vehicles for cheaper, but for what it is, a semi-luxury, all-wheel drive, somewhat sporty hatchback, it's not bad. I cannot emphasize enough the need for the M-sport package if sporty handling around twisty roads is a thing you value. Is it worth the $44k we paid for my wife's X1? Not sure, I probably would have went with either the new Subaru crosstek, or the mazda CX5. Both very similar in form and function, and fully loaded for around $30k.
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My XI is the first AWD car Ive owned and I must say, I miss RWD. I live in a Alaska where we get piles of snow but with the proper tires and not driving like an idiot go a long way. Will an XI be better in the winter? No doubt about it, but RWD works just fine too, plus it can be alot of fun in the winter and you dont have to carry the extra weight around in the dry months.

If I would do it again, I may have looked at a 135i or 335i more closely. With cars there always this struggle in my head about form vs function, form has won out alot of times in my life but I dont regret getting an XI.

I'm curious, what do you specifically miss about RWD?
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my x drive failed me last year. had to be pulled out with the hook


Did you get snowed in, or did you drive into this?


My 330xi plowed its way out of this a few years ago (all season tires - Hankook):
















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michelin pilot alpin. got them at costco
That's the worst snow tire I had. They are mostly made for cold temp and light snow. Like All seasons on steroids. Very good tire, just not for serious snow.

Performance Dunlops or Blizzaks are better. I now have LM60s
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To answer the original question the x1 28i with M-sport package is a pretty good ride.

There are a number of comparable vehicles for cheaper, but for what it is, a semi-luxury, all-wheel drive, somewhat sporty hatchback, it's not bad. I cannot emphasize enough the need for the M-sport package if sporty handling around twisty roads is a thing you value. Is it worth the $44k we paid for my wife's X1? Not sure, I probably would have went with either the new Subaru crosstek, or the mazda CX5. Both very similar in form and function, and fully loaded for around $30k.
X drives comes with sports package but doesn't come with sports suspension. I added KW V1s and the cars handling is now night and day.
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Did you get snowed in, or did you drive into this?


My 330xi plowed its way out of this a few years ago (all season tires - Hankook):
















A RWD with snow tires wouldn't even have a prayer!
drove into it. my car was lifted up whereas your car was still on the road just snowed in
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To answer the original question the x1 28i with M-sport package is a pretty good ride.

There are a number of comparable vehicles for cheaper, but for what it is, a semi-luxury, all-wheel drive, somewhat sporty hatchback, it's not bad. I cannot emphasize enough the need for the M-sport package if sporty handling around twisty roads is a thing you value. Is it worth the $44k we paid for my wife's X1? Not sure, I probably would have went with either the new Subaru crosstek, or the mazda CX5. Both very similar in form and function, and fully loaded for around $30k.
Strictly cosmetic. Not sure why BMW doesnt want to compete with the S4.
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I grew up driving RWD in the winter with AS tires, we had never heard of snow tires. EVERYONE had RWD and driving in snow was not a big deal. To this day I HAVE to drive a Crown Vic at work in all weather thrown at me with crappy Goodyear RSA tires and I don't get stuck in the snow. However, the wife drives a Touareg so I don't have to worry about her getting stuck. I haven't heard any real complaints from XI drivers. If one suits you, buy it. The system seems pretty solid and if that lets you travel more confidently, by all means.
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Had a really light dusting (~ 1") this morning, but had ice underneath it. Currently have the original EO Bridgestone Turanza AS on, with plans to replace them this or next week. That said, although they were slippery as can be on ice, x-drive was remarkable in its ability to get moving on ice that I could barely come to a stop on. Impressed with the car's all wheel drive and stability control, if not the tires themselves.

Coming from a front wheel drive Chevy Prizm, the ability to get moving on worn tires in poor conditions is impressive.
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To answer the original question the x1 28i with M-sport package is a pretty good ride.

There are a number of comparable vehicles for cheaper, but for what it is, a semi-luxury, all-wheel drive, somewhat sporty hatchback, it's not bad. I cannot emphasize enough the need for the M-sport package if sporty handling around twisty roads is a thing you value. Is it worth the $44k we paid for my wife's X1? Not sure, I probably would have went with either the new Subaru crosstek, or the mazda CX5. Both very similar in form and function, and fully loaded for around $30k.
Strictly cosmetic. Not sure why BMW doesnt want to compete with the S4.
You are incorrect sir. M-sport comes with sport tuned suspension and half inch lower ride height as well as different rear wheel power bias. 80% to rear vs 60. Drive a normal x1 vs. an Msport. HUGE difference in handling.
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You are incorrect sir. M-sport comes with sport tuned suspension and half inch lower ride height as well as different rear wheel power bias. 80% to rear vs 60. Drive a normal x1 vs. an Msport. HUGE difference in handling.


Is this true for the 3 series as well?
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You are incorrect sir. M-sport comes with sport tuned suspension and half inch lower ride height as well as different rear wheel power bias. 80% to rear vs 60. Drive a normal x1 vs. an Msport. HUGE difference in handling.
Where did you get the info on 80% vs 60% ?
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You are incorrect sir. M-sport comes with sport tuned suspension and half inch lower ride height as well as different rear wheel power bias. 80% to rear vs 60. Drive a normal x1 vs. an Msport. HUGE difference in handling.
Sorry about that. I havent seen that anywhere...can't even find it when I google it.
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I grew up driving RWD in the winter with AS tires, we had never heard of snow tires. EVERYONE had RWD and driving in snow was not a big deal. To this day I HAVE to drive a Crown Vic at work in all weather thrown at me with crappy Goodyear RSA tires and I don't get stuck in the snow. However, the wife drives a Touareg so I don't have to worry about her getting stuck. I haven't heard any real complaints from XI drivers. If one suits you, buy it. The system seems pretty solid and if that lets you travel more confidently, by all means.
Are you a LEO and what the heLL happened in Indianapolis over the weekend?
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Where did you get the info on 80% vs 60% ?
Really surprised they havent added that and lower firmer suspension to 328/335 to compete directly with S4.
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