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      11-12-2012, 09:38 PM   #23
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Thanks Rob. Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't make issue with the DPs. I know my dealer said they wouldn't honor turbos because I have DP's, but I'm not worried because I plan on upgrades anyway. Just hope they hold up until I can replace them.
I believe it is beacuse I have a nissan warranty, but I got hell another time for having a CP and they stated it was causing smoking issues....come to find out (might be coincedence) but I smoked the mechanics subaru and he must have been butt hurt LOL!!
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I believe it is beacuse I have a nissan warranty, but I got hell another time for having a CP and they stated it was causing smoking issues....come to find out (might be coincedence) but I smoked the mechanics subaru and he must have been butt hurt LOL!!
Thats never good. All these threads are making me second-guess replacing my DPs with catless VRSF DPs....
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I may start a turbo install related thread with info on installs ect with all threads included in it...that way somone can just go to the thread and get info ect.
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Thats never good. All these threads are making me second-guess replacing my DPs with catless VRSF DPs....
Go ahread and do it...if you need warranty work just swap them out.
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Go ahread and do it...if you need warranty work just swap them out.
Are they hard to swap yourself? I could invest in a floor-jack and some stands....
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Are they hard to swap yourself? I could invest in a floor-jack and some stands....
Not IMHO....first time sucked becuse I did not realize the steering rack can be moved a lot and makes for easy access!
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Not IMHO....first time sucked becuse I did not realize the steering rack can be moved a lot and makes for easy access!
Thanks! I guess ill give it a whirl. I bought a sweet 220-pc Craftsman toolset for use on this car, might as well open it
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Thanks! I guess ill give it a whirl. I bought a sweet 220-pc Craftsman toolset for use on this car, might as well open it
Get a oxcegen sensor tool (rent it) from autozone, advaced auto parts Ect...helps a lot....be sure to take note where the v-band clamps are.
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Those are some really good pictures! Just need to save up a little bit more to cover installation as I am not mechanically inclined to do such a daunting job.
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Those are some really good pictures! Just need to save up a little bit more to cover installation as I am not mechanically inclined to do such a daunting job.
I was quoted $1,350.00 for install.....I am going to tackle this tommorow "Possibly" LOL!!
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My concern is the oil lines/coolant lines....I bet they are a PITA! that and the steps to do first, next Ect...
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Good Luck, keep us updated
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I was quoted $1,350.00 for install.....I am going to tackle this tommorow "Possibly" LOL!!
We charge a basic flat rate of $1000. Here's a set of RBs going into a 335i.



Notice that we've removed the subframe, making it much easier to access hard-to-reach fasteners. It might be faster to sneak the turbos in with the sub hanging off the front suspension, but it's worth it to remove it: way fewer headaches. Honestly, this is not a job that I would recommend for the novice or intermediate hobbyist. There are too many tricky bits and places to mess up.

I would also like to compliment RB on the quality of the turbos. They are top notch stuff.
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Car should already be FBO before upgrading your turbos. Engine is fine, just make sure you have a tune that supports aftermarket turbos. An MT will eventually need a clutch upgrade & an AT will probably need an overhaul once it starts to slip
whats FBO...?

Im running on JB4 right now, overhaul seems to be an expensive word :\
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Don't know, it wouldn't be internals, it would be a replacement. But I did read that the converter on the 335d is different. Not sure because I'm having issues finding the information again. But I think after this weekend it would be worth looking into.

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whats FBO...?

Im running on JB4 right now, overhaul seems to be an expensive word :\
FBO = Tune, Intake, DPs, FMIC. I don't consider Meth & a Full CBE part of being FBO becasue not every1 runs meth & a CBE is only worth ~10 WHP.

And if you're gonna spend over over $3k on a turbo upgrade (RBs), you probably should have all these other mods (and maybe an LSD) done in advance.

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Don't know, it wouldn't be internals, it would be a replacement. But I did read that the converter on the 335d is different. Not sure because I'm having issues finding the information again. But I think after this weekend it would be worth looking into.
Someone's gotta take the 1st chance. The 335d torque converter def has to be beefiery since the diesel engines got much more tq then an N54/N55, but someone's gonna have to see if the ZF responds well to it. With all the electronic pieces in newer non-MT trans, it's never a direct swap. Look at all the problems caused in the DCT & the upgraded clutch packs.
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Haha, classic.
LOL!! it was....I got into it with him pretty bad he started saying "I know tirbo cars, i haveva STI" I was like the one I killed?....maybe you should stick to STI's and not BMW". Guy was a total tool.
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LOL!! it was....I got into it with him pretty bad he started saying "I know tirbo cars, i haveva STI" I was like the one I killed?....maybe you should stick to STI's and not BMW". Guy was a total tool.
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True, hopefully the vendors will step up and to the R&D. I know FFTEC is interested in finding a solution for the AT cars because it directly impacts the sale of single turbo upgrades to AT cars. MT owners know if they want power they have to replace their clutch. You want to play, eventually your going to have to pay. Shift Sector was really an eye opener for us considering how often do you get to pull through all the gears like that. You'll never see the same issue just on the dyno.

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Someone's gotta take the 1st chance. The 335d torque converter def has to be beefiery since the diesel engines got much more tq then an N54/N55, but someone's gonna have to see if the ZF responds well to it. With all the electronic pieces in newer non-MT trans, it's never a direct swap. Look at all the problems caused in the DCT & the upgraded clutch packs.
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He also had a bungee cord keeping his huge ass FMIC from bouncing around....not somone who should be working at any dealership!
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