Head count of VANOS replacement individuals - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

spool twice · 11-12-2012, 09:30 PM

I'm suspecting future VANOS's failure for my vehicle (12/07 build date), 69K miles, used M1 0w40 or Castrol 0w30

Symptoms:
1)Marbles in a can like noise during cold start in the interior of the car

2) "warble-warble" like noise at the top of the engine near the VANOS timing gear during the same conditions

3) repeated VANOS codes and CEL lights after WOT runs

I'm just gathering information from others. Please post if you've had a complete VANOS assembly replacement done, not VANOS solenoid-related stuff. Post your build date, type of oil, milage, and symptoms. I'm wanting to keep the thread alive for future buyers or current owners who may have the same issue. I guess no BMW is safe from VANOS issue's.

zanelefko · 11-12-2012, 09:50 PM

I had to get a new vanos unit at 89k miles...wasn't cheap either

I used BMW oil
Symptoms were half engine light, no boost, marble like sounds

m603 · 11-13-2012, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanelefko

I had to get a new vanos unit at 89k miles...wasn't cheap either

I used BMW oil
Symptoms were half engine light, no boost, marble like sounds

how much? I'm scared to find out...

335xi Kevo · 11-13-2012, 07:17 PM

vanos are super easy to swap theres a DIY here.

spool twice · 11-13-2012, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335xi Kevo

vanos are super easy to swap theres a DIY here.

You may be confusing VANOS unit with VANOS solenoid, which are two completely different things

spool twice · 11-13-2012, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanelefko

I had to get a new vanos unit at 89k miles...wasn't cheap either

I used BMW oil
Symptoms were half engine light, no boost, marble like sounds

Thanks for the update. Did you have marbles-in-a-can noise at idle with a feather foot on the throttle too?

5soko · 11-13-2012, 11:22 PM

My car is FBO and 28k miles.

When im inside the car, no music, I hear a very faint, like marbles griding or like a buzz sound at idle, and when I give slight partial throttle.

Is this vanos?

zanelefko · 11-14-2012, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m603

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanelefko

I had to get a new vanos unit at 89k miles...wasn't cheap either

I used BMW oil
Symptoms were half engine light, no boost, marble like sounds

how much? I'm scared to find out...

It was almost 7 months ago now but I believe somewhere in the woods of 1800-2000$

spool twice · 11-14-2012, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5soko

My car is FBO and 28k miles.

When im inside the car, no music, I hear a very faint, like marbles griding or like a buzz sound at idle, and when I give slight partial throttle.

Is this vanos?

is it a cycling buzzing noise? or is it constant?

5soko · 11-16-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by spool twice

is it a cycling buzzing noise? or is it constant?

Yea its like a buzz buzz buzz buzz on and off on and off.. And then when I rev, it gets a lil louder and faster buzbuzbuzbuzbuzz..

spool twice · 11-16-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 5soko

Yea its like a buzz buzz buzz buzz on and off on and off.. And then when I rev, it gets a lil louder and faster buzbuzbuzbuzbuzz..

That's the sound i'm hearing too

BoostedE90 · 11-16-2012, 07:59 AM

VANOS Solenoid replacement: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486201

trickcruiser · 11-16-2012, 08:42 AM

What vanos codes are you getting? That will really help pinpoint the issue.

The sounds that you are hearing could be normal for direct injection. My 335i was noisy as hell and it always worried me. My 135i sounds the same as does my friends 335i. All of these cars have had the vanos solenoid's replaced. We were throwing vanos codes after hard pulls.

5soko · 11-16-2012, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spool twice

That's the sound i'm hearing too

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickcruiser

What vanos codes are you getting? That will really help pinpoint the issue.

The sounds that you are hearing could be normal for direct injection. My 335i was noisy as hell and it always worried me. My 135i sounds the same as does my friends 335i. All of these cars have had the vanos solenoid's replaced. We were throwing vanos codes after hard pulls.

Im not getting any vanos codes.

Car has 28K miles, and the noise has been present for about 5-8K miles.
with the radio off, its an annoying whiring sound. whiring comes on strong, and then quiets down, comes back strong, quiets down, does this sound quickly and on going.
Im going to remove and clean my intake/exhaust solenoids with wd40 and compressed air, see if the sound goes away.

I have ruled out the DME fan inside the ECU box, and the boost solenoids, since my issue, the sound moves with RPM's in neutral.. So boost solenoids aren't rpm dependent, and these two should be making noise always, not sometimes, and not when warm only.

vasillalov · 11-16-2012, 02:30 PM

Are we talking about the VANOS solenoids here? If so, then count me in for 1 intake vanos solenoid dead at 28K miles. Replaced it in my own garage in under 30 minutes.

Coding@DetailAddict · 11-16-2012, 02:35 PM

Replaced my solenoids via CPO warranty around 35k miles.

joec500 · 11-16-2012, 02:37 PM

mine died at 20k miles.

MidwestGolfBum · 11-16-2012, 02:39 PM

I had mine replaced around 40K under factory warranty, Been fine for the last 23K now.

07, always used BMW oil, same marble sound everybody else has been talking about.

Bagelfast · 11-16-2012, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Are we talking about the VANOS solenoids here? If so, then count me in for 1 intake vanos solenoid dead at 28K miles. Replaced it in my own garage in under 30 minutes.

How did you know it went bad? noise or codes?

nOshi · 11-16-2012, 04:55 PM

Mine went when I was around 53k, exhaust side vanos solenoid. Threw a code for it under acceleration, which resulted in limp mode. Bought a replacement and has been good ever since.

spool twice · 11-16-2012, 06:06 PM

hey guys, strictly VANOS only, not VANOS solenoid. This noise is caused by the VANOS unit itself starting to fail.

vasillalov · 11-17-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LUMI

How did you know it went bad? noise or codes?

Codes. At first the code was popping up every 3-4 months. Then it started happening more frequently. It got worse and I was getting the CEL almost once per week during normal city driving. So I bought one and replaced it.

No noises at all. Just went bad.

11-12-2012, 09:30 PM	#1
spool twice Rainbow Racer Drives: e92 N54 335i 6spd Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 884 iTrader: (6)	Head count of VANOS replacement individuals I'm suspecting future VANOS's failure for my vehicle (12/07 build date), 69K miles, used M1 0w40 or Castrol 0w30 Symptoms: 1)Marbles in a can like noise during cold start in the interior of the car 2) "warble-warble" like noise at the top of the engine near the VANOS timing gear during the same conditions 3) repeated VANOS codes and CEL lights after WOT runs I'm just gathering information from others. Please post if you've had a complete VANOS assembly replacement done, not VANOS solenoid-related stuff. Post your build date, type of oil, milage, and symptoms. I'm wanting to keep the thread alive for future buyers or current owners who may have the same issue. I guess no BMW is safe from VANOS issue's. __________________ Loe P. E90 LCI M3 7-DCT Interlagos Blue/Novillo Silver sold E92 335i 6MT Space Gray/Cinnamon interior JB4-E50, DCI, Meth 12.6@115mph sold E46 M3 6MT Black / Black
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11-12-2012, 09:50 PM	#2
zanelefko Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: So Fla Posts: 404 iTrader: (0)	I had to get a new vanos unit at 89k miles...wasn't cheap either I used BMW oil Symptoms were half engine light, no boost, marble like sounds __________________ VRSF DP / DCI / JB4 / ETS FMIC / ETS Charge pipe / Tial BOV /

11-13-2012, 07:17 PM	#4
335xi Kevo First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 335xi Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: CT Posts: 372 iTrader: (2)	vanos are super easy to swap theres a DIY here. __________________ 08' 335xi 6MT Space Metallic Grey Premium, Nav, Cold weather, Sport Procede//PWM Meth//VRSF XI Downpipe//Forge DV//DCI//KW V1//SCOOPS//ETS FMIC//ECS GEOMET ROTORS//HAWK//CDV//PERFORMANCE SPOILER//CSL//

11-13-2012, 11:22 PM	#7
5soko Brigadier General Drives: ///M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CALI \|\| NYC Posts: 3,983 iTrader: (4)	My car is FBO and 28k miles. When im inside the car, no music, I hear a very faint, like marbles griding or like a buzz sound at idle, and when I give slight partial throttle. Is this vanos? __________________ Current: ///M5 \|\| ML63AMG \|\| 13' Porsche Panamera S Retired: 2007 E92 335i \|\| 2010 E90 LCI M-sport 335i FBO JB4+ E85

11-16-2012, 08:42 AM	#13
trickcruiser First Lieutenant Drives: E82 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 354 iTrader: (1)	What vanos codes are you getting? That will really help pinpoint the issue. The sounds that you are hearing could be normal for direct injection. My 335i was noisy as hell and it always worried me. My 135i sounds the same as does my friends 335i. All of these cars have had the vanos solenoid's replaced. We were throwing vanos codes after hard pulls. __________________ G5 ISO \| BMS Flash \| Alpina Flash \| RB Turbos \| RPI Quad Exhaust \| APR Catless DP's Meth DO 14 \| Walbro E85 \| E60 \| AA FMIC \| ER CP W/Synapse BOV

11-16-2012, 07:59 AM	#12
BoostedE90 Major Drives: e90 335i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampa/Gainesville, FL Posts: 1,445 iTrader: (5)	VANOS Solenoid replacement: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486201

11-16-2012, 02:30 PM	#15
vasillalov Mad Linux Guru On The Loose Drives: 2008 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,997 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 335i E90 [4.00]	Are we talking about the VANOS solenoids here? If so, then count me in for 1 intake vanos solenoid dead at 28K miles. Replaced it in my own garage in under 30 minutes. __________________ Equal Opportunity Harasser! 6MT \| COBB \| AR \| AE \| Forge DV \| HPF \| P3 Gauge \| Hybrid Intake \| O.S.Giken TCD \| M3 bits BMWCCA #447439

11-16-2012, 02:35 PM	#16
Coding@DetailAddict BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 2007 335i E92 (SGM) Join Date: May 2011 Location: 1600 Wyatt Dr. Ste. 16, Santa Clara CA Posts: 3,032 iTrader: (12) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i E92 [3.79]	Replaced my solenoids via CPO warranty around 35k miles. __________________ █ Click HERE for Info & Pricing █

11-16-2012, 02:37 PM	#17
joec500 Colonel Drives: it has 4 wheels Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,711 iTrader: (10)	mine died at 20k miles. __________________ 2007 E92 6MT SGM: MusicarNW Level 2, Procede Rev 2.5, FFTEC/Vishnu LPFP with Flexfuel Sensor and Flash, M3 Offset V701's, WaveTrac LSD, Michelin PSS, Downpipes, M3 Control Arms, TCKline D/A Suspension, LCI Tail lights, Lux AE's, ER Charge Pipe, DCI's, Mtech Front and Rear, M3 Sideskirts, HPF Stage 1 Clutch

11-16-2012, 02:39 PM	#18
MidwestGolfBum Knower of all Things Useless Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: No Coast Posts: 214 iTrader: (0)	I had mine replaced around 40K under factory warranty, Been fine for the last 23K now. 07, always used BMW oil, same marble sound everybody else has been talking about.

11-16-2012, 04:55 PM	#20
nOshi the end to no means Drives: TiAg E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 178 iTrader: (2)	Mine went when I was around 53k, exhaust side vanos solenoid. Threw a code for it under acceleration, which resulted in limp mode. Bought a replacement and has been good ever since. __________________ TiAG E90 N54 335i \| COBB \| RB \| FBO

11-16-2012, 06:06 PM	#21
spool twice Rainbow Racer Drives: e92 N54 335i 6spd Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 884 iTrader: (6)	hey guys, strictly VANOS only, not VANOS solenoid. This noise is caused by the VANOS unit itself starting to fail. __________________ Loe P. E90 LCI M3 7-DCT Interlagos Blue/Novillo Silver sold E92 335i 6MT Space Gray/Cinnamon interior JB4-E50, DCI, Meth 12.6@115mph sold E46 M3 6MT Black / Black

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