unplugging vanos solenoids while engine running? Bad? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Bagelfast · 11-17-2012, 01:09 AM

So I want to narrow down if the marble sound I have coming thru my dash is the vanos solenoids. (noise is rpm dependent)

IF I unplug the intake and the exhaust solenoid while the engine is running during idle, is it harmful for the engine?

this way I can see if the noise stops? I know for sure its the vanos solenoids.

AK 335i · 11-17-2012, 01:10 AM

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spool twice · 11-17-2012, 08:00 AM

I wouldn't...

Bagelfast · 11-17-2012, 10:44 AM

Might just take them out to clean them with carb cleaner and compressed air.. Then swap there original positions.

cortega · 11-18-2012, 02:54 PM

I have the same marble sound at idle, do you have any codes? mine dont. Already cleaned both solenoids with compressed air with no change. Can it be just the solenoids?

Bagelfast · 11-18-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cortega

I have the same marble sound at idle, do you have any codes? mine dont. Already cleaned both solenoids with compressed air with no change. Can it be just the solenoids?

Damn.. I was gonna clean them this week coming up, but since you did and no change then no reason to.

nope I get no codes.

Im gonna unplug the boost solenoids when I hear the sound and see if the sound goes away.

cortega · 11-18-2012, 02:59 PM

I didn't swap the solenoids, if you want to try it.

cortega · 11-19-2012, 06:38 PM

UPDATE

Cleaned with brake cleaner and swapped the solenoids. Before, I heard the marble sound right after starting up. Now, I started the car, no marble sound. Half hour later the sound came back but much much less than before. Maybe one or both solenoids are bad. I'm going to get at least one and swap them one at a time.

AK 335i · 11-19-2012, 06:39 PM

good luck

spool twice · 11-24-2012, 09:08 AM

FWIW, I changed both of my solenoids this weekend. I accidentally started the car w/o plugging in the electrical connectors and the car ran fine, in fact, it was quite smooth, and the marbles in the can sound disappeared. It instantly flashed up a yellow half engine light though.

But when I plugged the connectors back in, the marble sound is still there, but substantially reduced. But I have a feeling that changing the solenoids isn't the issue of the marbles in a can noise because it still present.

cn555ic · 11-24-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spool twice

FWIW, I changed both of my solenoids this weekend. I accidentally started the car w/o plugging in the electrical connectors and the car ran fine, in fact, it was quite smooth, and the marbles in the can sound disappeared. It instantly flashed up a yellow half engine light though.

But when I plugged the connectors back in, the marble sound is still there, but substantially reduced. But I have a feeling that changing the solenoids isn't the issue of the marbles in a can noise because it still present.

Its the tune and specific firmware...I had this issue with newer maps on the Procede...Went back to older maps and noise was gone..

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Bagelfast Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY Posts: 1,513 iTrader: (0)	unplugging vanos solenoids while engine running? Bad? So I want to narrow down if the marble sound I have coming thru my dash is the vanos solenoids. (noise is rpm dependent) IF I unplug the intake and the exhaust solenoid while the engine is running during idle, is it harmful for the engine? this way I can see if the noise stops? I know for sure its the vanos solenoids.
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11-24-2012, 09:08 AM	#10
spool twice Rainbow Racer Drives: e92 N54 335i 6spd Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 884 iTrader: (6)	FWIW, I changed both of my solenoids this weekend. I accidentally started the car w/o plugging in the electrical connectors and the car ran fine, in fact, it was quite smooth, and the marbles in the can sound disappeared. It instantly flashed up a yellow half engine light though. But when I plugged the connectors back in, the marble sound is still there, but substantially reduced. But I have a feeling that changing the solenoids isn't the issue of the marbles in a can noise because it still present. __________________ Loe P. E90 LCI M3 7-DCT Interlagos Blue/Novillo Silver sold E92 335i 6MT Space Gray/Cinnamon interior JB4-E50, DCI, Meth 12.6@115mph sold E46 M3 6MT Black / Black

11-17-2012, 10:44 AM	#4
Bagelfast Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY Posts: 1,513 iTrader: (0)	Might just take them out to clean them with carb cleaner and compressed air.. Then swap there original positions.

11-18-2012, 02:54 PM	#5
cortega New Member Drives: 2008 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 27 iTrader: (0)	I have the same marble sound at idle, do you have any codes? mine dont. Already cleaned both solenoids with compressed air with no change. Can it be just the solenoids?

11-18-2012, 02:59 PM	#7
cortega New Member Drives: 2008 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 27 iTrader: (0)	I didn't swap the solenoids, if you want to try it.

11-19-2012, 06:38 PM	#8
cortega New Member Drives: 2008 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 27 iTrader: (0)	UPDATE Cleaned with brake cleaner and swapped the solenoids. Before, I heard the marble sound right after starting up. Now, I started the car, no marble sound. Half hour later the sound came back but much much less than before. Maybe one or both solenoids are bad. I'm going to get at least one and swap them one at a time.

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