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      02-22-2012, 11:08 PM   #23
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i have a 2011 335d with the base audio but i dont have any tweeters in the pillar/mirror area. Can anyone tell me why? The loaner 328i they give me even has it.
That was the stock config for 2010 and early 2011. Thats what i started with which is why you see the tweeter sails in the install.
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      02-23-2012, 11:23 AM   #24
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That was the stock config for 2010 and early 2011. Thats what i started with which is why you see the tweeter sails in the install.
Ah so since my car was probably manufactured in late 2010 it doesnt have the tweeters or the center speaker? Can BMW upgrade your audio system to the Logic7 after you have bought the car? I also dont have a center speaker.
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      02-23-2012, 11:26 AM   #25
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Ah so since my car was probably manufactured in late 2010 it doesnt have the tweeters or the center speaker? Can BMW upgrade your audio system to the Logic7 after you have bought the car? I also dont have a center speaker.
They can do anything you want, if you're willing to pay.

It's probably a $3/4,000 retrofit. Maybe more.
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lol in that case ill do something my self. How much did it cost you to get those tweeter sails? Would it be fairly easy to add tweeter sails or would it just be better to get some replacement midrange speakers that have tweeters in them.
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The tweeter sails are about $34 each. no big deal. Easy to add and also good tweeter placement so they will be better and worth it compared to a coaxial.

There is no point in adding OEM logic 7, you will get much better results taking a path like mine and others on this board.

What are your goals and budget (range and also a "target")?

At a minimum you should:
1) Get a better front stage with tweeters
2) Bandpass (and ideally replace) the under seats
3) remove HU eq curve (by recoding as above, or processor (also above), or JL Cleansweep).

The OEM alpine kit (plus proper coding) does all of this at a reasonable cost. There are more cost budget upgrades though and also it gets much much better from there.
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Updated post 19 with running parts list
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NICE!!! How did you do that? Change LED's? or backlight film.
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Updated post 19 with running parts list
I saw the parts list...
for :
"2x 61130006664 (Pin Contacts including 18"wire) or Pins only 61131393723 (for attaching to your own wire)
1x 61138373583 (Universal Pin Terminal Uncoded 2 Pol)"

Do both the front and rear speakers use the same connectors?

Which ones does the under seat subwoofer use?

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Updated post 19 with running parts list
I saw the parts list...
for :
"2x 61130006664 (Pin Contacts including 18"wire) or Pins only 61131393723 (for attaching to your own wire)
1x 61138373583 (Universal Pin Terminal Uncoded 2 Pol)"

Do both the front and rear speakers use the same connectors?

Which ones does the under seat subwoofer use?
Answer. It depends.

The vehicle harness uses a male plastic plug inside of which are two female socket connectors. The speakers use the femle plug (pictured above) with two pin connectors. Oem tweeters use the male plug with female sockets as they plug into the oem midrange.

Hope thats clear as mud!

The underseats. FOR THE BASE STEREO ONLY? use:
Speaker side:
05 Socket housing 4 POL. 2 61136984750 $5.03
only in conjunction with
-- Socket contact ELO-Power 2,8x0,63 0,5-1,0 MM² 2 61138364836 $0.35
-- Socket contact ELO-Power 2,8x0,63 1,0- 2,5 MM² 2 61138364838 $0.62

Vehicle side
01 Universal pin terminal uncoded 4 POL. ? 61136901731 $2.12
only in conjunction with
-- Pin-contact ELO-Power 2,8 x 0,63 0,5-1,0MM² 2 61138364833 $0.77
-- Pin-contact ELO-Power 2,8 x 0,63 1,0-2,5MM² 2 61138364835 $0.72


What are you trying to make?
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Rosco #22 film inserted between two halves of lcd. Credit NeilJ from diyma.
Thanks its pretty neat how it turned out.
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Answer. It depends.

The vehicle harness uses a male plastic plug inside of which are two female socket connectors. The speakers use the femle plug (pictured above) with two pin connectors. Oem tweeters use the male plug with female sockets as they plug into the oem midrange.

Hope thats clear as mud!

The underseats. FOR THE BASE STEREO ONLY? use:
Speaker side:
05 Socket housing 4 POL. 2 61136984750 $5.03
only in conjunction with
-- Socket contact ELO-Power 2,8x0,63 0,5-1,0 MM² 2 61138364836 $0.35
-- Socket contact ELO-Power 2,8x0,63 1,0- 2,5 MM² 2 61138364838 $0.62

Vehicle side
01 Universal pin terminal uncoded 4 POL. ? 61136901731 $2.12
only in conjunction with
-- Pin-contact ELO-Power 2,8 x 0,63 0,5-1,0MM² 2 61138364833 $0.77
-- Pin-contact ELO-Power 2,8 x 0,63 1,0-2,5MM² 2 61138364835 $0.72


What are you trying to make?
I have the hifi option in the 335 E90 LCI.. (11/08).. -

I am making a collection of information for parts/ connectors / pinouts etc.. (basically planning stage. before I start ripping out panels..)
In the end, I hope to have all speakers replaced+aftermarket amp.

Are the connectors for hifi subs different?.. By the way Taibanl, I appreciate your guides and post. They are extremely helpful. (already found answers for about 80% of my questions)
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Thanks. Looking at the part diagram it looks lile the same part but someone else with hifi ahould confirm


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Nice Setup
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Nice Setup
Its a few days away from getting a WHOLE lot better
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i have read and watched your vids great stuff. im just trying to understand the use of the Top hifi OEM amp with a processor unit and the aftermarket amp...
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i have read and watched your vids great stuff. im just trying to understand the use of the Top hifi OEM amp with a processor unit and the aftermarket amp...
You'll have to phrase that as a question...

generally a processor such as the MS-8 is used to REPLACE the OEM Hifi or TopHifi amp.
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I noticed you have the base enclosures that were glued to the OEM speakers. I also notice that there is a hole right in the center bottom of these enclosures. Did you do anything to plug it to make sure it's sealed?
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I noticed you have the base enclosures that were glued to the OEM speakers. I also notice that there is a hole right in the center bottom of these enclosures. Did you do anything to plug it to make sure it's sealed?
Yes the hole fits a rubber grommet that is already installed there. Just reinstall before the new speakers.
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I am going to make this a running OEM parts list:

Attachment 648881
Tweeter Sails (SEDAN/e90 only)
Includes H/K Logo:
Cover, window frame, door front left HARMAN/KARDON 51337270891
Cover, window frame, door front right HARMAN/KARDON 51337270892
No Logo - cloth behind grille to hide tweeter?:
For vehicles with HiFi speaker system WITHOUT Cover for speaker
Cover, window frame, door front left 51337258575 $30.89
Cover, window frame, door front right 51337258576 $30.89
No Logo - NO cloth behind grille, tweeter visible?:
For vehicles with HiFi speaker system with Cover for speaker
Cover, window frame, door front left 51337171201 $35.98
Cover, window frame, door front right 51337171202 $35.98



Attachment 648890Attachment 648891
Female Plastic Connector (with male pins inside) - to make jumper for "Stereo"/Base systems
Plastic Connector 61136901731 4x Pins 61138364835



Attachment 648882Attachment 648889
Metal Contact Socket 61136920094 (for smaller wires, use last two digits 92.
Plastic bits:
Universal socket housing MAK8, uncoded 2 POL. 61136925166 (white in picture)
Universal socket housing MAK8, uncoded 1 POL. 61136925176 (green)








Attachment 648898Attachment 648897
2x 61130006664 (Pin Contacts including 18"wire) or Pins only 61131393723 (for attaching to your own wire)
1x 61138373583 (Universal Pin Terminal Uncoded 2 Pol)
Note: The pictures show the wire AFTER i already cut it to make the pigtail. The wire in the second pic is what remains (just to give you an idea of length). The first PN is the pins pre-crimped to the wire, the second is the pins by themselves, if you have your own wire you need to connect to.

Golden info... Thanks!
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      11-24-2012, 04:08 PM   #44
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Are you getting a lot of rattling/vibrations from the trunk lid?

I am slightly considering doing a side box for a 10" W6 or something like that for the trunk, but dont wanna deal with dynomatting (sp) the whole thing so it doesn't end up sounding like a Donk.
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