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      11-09-2012, 04:21 PM   #111
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Would you say they absorb bumps as well as stock setup? I actually like the stock ride but just hate the look . I was thinking of going Dinan stage two but from reading your review you seem pretty happy and that setups less then the Dinan.
It does much better than stock over all bumps, esp those small sharp ones that stock seems to bottom out on. It is firmer but more supple if that makes sense. I like the look of the drop, but more important the functional aspect of handling improvement is massive. It now feels like a true german sports-GT car, whereas before it felt disconnected and floaty. My main complaint on the stock shocks was very little/poor rebound control, which makes the car pitch and roll, dive and squat like a boat. That is all gone, even on the softest Koni setting.

I also tweaked the alignment a bit to a more sporting setting, that together with the susp makes it pretty tossable, very satisfying to drive and get aggressive with. Before it felt like it would roll over.

Note presently I have 18" 189 OEM wheels and Conti DWS in stock staggered size. I live in the mountains and you nearly always need some all season capability 8-9 months out of the year.
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      11-13-2012, 07:02 AM   #112
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I read this whole thread it was very useful. from what I read it looks like I with eibach gave the softest ride compared to stock which is what I'm looking for I have and 06 330xi got it in June love it would you guys recommend this set up for me or would you go for something else thanks
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      11-15-2012, 10:33 AM   #113
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I think thats a nice drop, not to low and you can still get over bumps. Awesome color on that car. I have the same one
Mine's lower than that. That looks like mine before it finished settling. Was that photo taken soon after the install?
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      11-15-2012, 10:37 AM   #114
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Did you run the 19's on the stock setup? I was going to buy those same style rims off of my friend who's taking them off his m3. He insists I do suspension before we install them but I was curious if the rake was terrible with larger rims?
I did. I'm running the same summer/winter setups as I was when I had the stock setup on there.

I haven't run the 18s (winter) on the new suspension yet, but I'll be doing the swap next week, as it's getting cold up here, and smells like snow in the morning. Not a good thing when you've got slicks on there, even with AWD.
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      11-15-2012, 10:39 AM   #115
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I read this whole thread it was very useful. from what I read it looks like I with eibach gave the softest ride compared to stock which is what I'm looking for I have and 06 330xi got it in June love it would you guys recommend this set up for me or would you go for something else thanks
Different chassis. I wouldn't draw any comparisons between the two cars.
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      11-15-2012, 12:51 PM   #116
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Crap. All this trash talking the H&Rs and praise with the Eibachs...

I really need to switch to the Eibachs from H&R. The H&Rs are way too harsh in the city roads. I'll definitely be investing in the eibachs if it means a better ride over potholes/bumps. I just haven't decided if I should stick with Bilsteins (which I have now) or the Koni yellows.
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      11-15-2012, 04:29 PM   #117
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I don't know that it's trash talking. They're just a lot less daily driver friendly.

For people that care less about ride, and want to look slammed, the H&Rs are a better option. Also, people that do less daily driving, and want a stiffer and lower track solution, the H&Rs may work better as well.
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      11-15-2012, 07:14 PM   #118
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I don't know that it's trash talking. They're just a lot less daily driver friendly.

For people that care less about ride, and want to look slammed, the H&Rs are a better option. Also, people that do less daily driving, and want a stiffer and lower track solution, the H&Rs may work better as well.
I was exaggerating over the 'trash talking' but i think people have a point. :P

That being said, my H&Rs suck for DD. Too harsh for daily driving. Gonna find myself a set of Eibachs.
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      11-15-2012, 11:26 PM   #119
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I have h&r for my e90 xdrive match with blistein honestly... Its not meant for dd.. Especialy where im from.. Up north canada can get up to -40.. Yes i drive it all year round and yes the h&r is driveable... If u want dd go for eibach... I have eibachs now sooo much better yes doesnt look as good but i dont like the rake so thats good.. If the h&r didnt come with the rake i woulda been ok driving it..
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      11-16-2012, 12:15 AM   #120
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Different chassis. I wouldn't draw any comparisons between the two cars.
Looks like they drive an 06 330 which would make it a first year E90 chassis wouldn't it? Or were you implying there might be enough of a difference between the E90 and E92s that suspension feedback for one may not directly apply to the other?

Btw, a great thread as it's given me some food for thought as I research suspension upgrades
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      11-16-2012, 10:01 AM   #121
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I don't know why I thought that said 2005, but you're right. the 06 is the same chassis.

Sorry about that.
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So i just swapped my winter wheels (oe 189) on and with this suspension, the rears are way too deep in the well. Looks terrible.

Anyone running this setup with 189s? What spacers did you use?
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      11-25-2012, 10:07 PM   #123
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After six pages no one has tried a set up that is "comfortable" or improves ride quality, why ?

What the set up that meet these criteria ....
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After six pages no one has tried a set up that is "comfortable" or improves ride quality, why ?

What the set up that meet these criteria ....
Did you actually read any of this thread?
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I thought I read it but apparently I missed that part. Can you point it out.
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What's the life/durability of the shock/spring combo compared to coilovers? I've been too careful with my driving around NY with my KW V1s and want to worry less when I drive, so I'm parting my suspension and looking to go the stock route. If I can do Bilsteins and springs for a little more of a drop while maintaining OEM suspension durability, then maybe I can go this route to lessen the withdrawal of being lowered.
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I thought I read it but apparently I missed that part. Can you point it out.
IMHO, Bilstein HD (no lowering springs) would meet your requirements. I just got those at the beginning of the month and love them. I have a post about it on here somewhere.
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I thought I read it but apparently I missed that part. Can you point it out.
First post. This setup is comfortable and improves ride quality.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...49&postcount=1

"Comfort" and "Improved Ride Quality" are of course opinion, and everyone has different needs, tastes and requirments.

This is a review thread about a specific setup, and my experience with it. It's not a catch-all, all-xi suspension upgrade/replacement options thread.
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What's the life/durability of the shock/spring combo compared to coilovers? I've been too careful with my driving around NY with my KW V1s and want to worry less when I drive, so I'm parting my suspension and looking to go the stock route. If I can do Bilsteins and springs for a little more of a drop while maintaining OEM suspension durability, then maybe I can go this route to lessen the withdrawal of being lowered.
I would guess that wildly differs depending on what setup you're comparing to which coilover option.

My guess is the Bilstein/Eibach setup is no worse than stock for durability. That said, people tend to drive on suspensions long after their useful life is completed (25k-40k miles), so it also depends on how you define that.

I replaced my setup at 50k, and I think it was long overdue.
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Kind of a noob question here but does Xdrive with the right suspension setups (coilovers, strut bars, sway, etc.) handle better on the track or on corners than a RWD with the same upgrades?
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The xi is heavier by 200 lbs, but uses yaw and speed (a^d slippage) to distribute power I'd pick the i if it had a LSD hands down, and still probably without one,
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What's the life/durability of the shock/spring combo compared to coilovers? I've been too careful with my driving around NY with my KW V1s and want to worry less when I drive, so I'm parting my suspension and looking to go the stock route. If I can do Bilsteins and springs for a little more of a drop while maintaining OEM suspension durability, then maybe I can go this route to lessen the withdrawal of being lowered.
Running them for 2 years and about 35K miles and still happy as the first day
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