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      11-29-2012, 03:54 AM   #331
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I think an engine swap will come cheaper.
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      11-29-2012, 05:46 AM   #332
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I hate seeing these threads. See? Over a year now and the ONLY companies that have created an SC kit are ARMA (pretty sure everyone has seen that scam thread where they wouldn't pay up for the guy's kit under their "warranty" not to mention its overseas...) and MMW (still in the fine tuning stages) but yeah I have yet to hear anything from all of these major SC companies (ess, AA, vf engineering etc.) That claim that they're gonna make a kit. They're just blowing smoke up your ass and letting you believe and hope that the n52 will have a sc kit with a strong name behind them. Truth is fellas, the n52 isn't gonna make the power you're thinking of without a major overhaul or some major damage on the motor and drivetrain. Sucks right? Id rather invest 15k into a e36 m and slap an sc kit on that over holding my breathe for these companies to give to go back and help the last members of the NA family to get up to power with the 335 or anything big. But I guess we can either wish, wait for MMW to finish fine tuning, or buy from ARMA and waste 7k. Or buy a track car/ project car and make it 6x faster than the n52 will ever see in its lifetime. Gotta say though, id be one of the first in line if they could create some way to keep the n52 from warping, blowing or snapping anything due to excess heat, boost, and power.
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I got a quote a few months ago from a semi-local shop willing to do an engine overhaul to install a Votec Supercharger and got quote $7,500 +/- $1,000 (depending on hiccups). Would include boring to 3.2L, new cams, new crankshaft, lightweight pulleys, and custom fabrication for the SC install and fine tuning included. Estimated +65% increase in current performance (because custom cams, bigger pistons, etc.)... they said though, i risk outperforming my transmission and rear differential before 5k miles before they either need to be repaired and/or upgraded... so... overall... it would take maybe $10k+ to actually get REAL performance out of this engine... i would rather invest in the S85 (V10) personally and just do an engine/tranny/differential swap if i'm going to spend THAT much... at least then, i would still be N/A, have a BAD ASS exhaust note, and would likely stand the test of time because no forced induction...

though... the high pitched whine of a SC is pretty sick too
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I got a quote a few months ago from a semi-local shop willing to do an engine overhaul to install a Votec Supercharger and got quote $7,500 +/- $1,000 (depending on hiccups). Would include boring to 3.2L, new cams, new crankshaft, lightweight pulleys, and custom fabrication for the SC install and fine tuning included. Estimated +65% increase in current performance (because custom cams, bigger pistons, etc.)... they said though, i risk outperforming my transmission and rear differential before 5k miles before they either need to be repaired and/or upgraded... so... overall... it would take maybe $10k+ to actually get REAL performance out of this engine... i would rather invest in the S85 (V10) personally and just do an engine/tranny/differential swap if i'm going to spend THAT much... at least then, i would still be N/A, have a BAD ASS exhaust note, and would likely stand the test of time because no forced induction...

though... the high pitched whine of a SC is pretty sick too
The main issue is tuning, not bolting on a SC. Obviously, the mechanical aspect of fabrication wouldn't be too difficult at all. You may invest all that money in the 3.2L engine and the supercharger hardware and they may NEVER be able to tune it. All the money down the drain.

A V10 swap would cost you in excess of $30K. The drivetrain alone will be over $20K and then you need to install it. We all know it can be done...for a price. Would be cool - go for it.
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well looks like all the begging worked!!!
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