Test drove a 5.0 Mustang and Vette Grand Sport yesterday... - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

pimp4cheddar · 12-07-2012, 10:49 AM

Mustang was kinda sloppy...but the Vette...actually felt pretty nice.

The 5.0 was the RT version which had upgraded wheels, intake and also the Roush exhaust. Sounded amazing but didn't care for the interior at all...very ugly and bland interior. The seats sucked as did everything else. Very plastic feeling inside. Also felt very boat like as well... I felt really high up in the car and just didn't do anything for me.

Went to drive a Grand Sport right after and that was a much nicer car. Still wouldn't buy it as I had the feeling I was sitting in a 30ft long sports car. I had trouble seeing over the hood as it was so damn long. Felt very grounded and the car was completely built around the driver. Seats were great as were the ergonomics around the drivers side. Car had some power too...and the price was great! Big brake kit and a massive engine felt really nice.

Thought I would share...but yes I can see why people buy Vette's. Very great bang for buck!

jphughan · 12-07-2012, 12:02 PM

Yeah, my first track day I caught a ride with an advanced run group student who had a C6 Z06 -- totally blew my mind. He hit the front straight at 80 MPH and floored it, and it pulled from 80 to 135 about as hard as my M3 pulls from 30 to 70. I agree about that sensation of driving such a long car, though I feel that way when I get into an E89 Z4 as well to some extent.

The new Mustang has optional Recaro seats which I'm told are amazing, but yes the stock seats aren't so hot and I too find the interior drab overall. The Vette can have a nice(r) interior with the 4LZ package, but it's still not going to match the E9x. However, given how drop-dead gorgeous the new Viper's interior looks -- by any standard at all, never mind compared to the previous Viper, and especially with the Laguna Leather package -- I'll be VERY curious to see what happens with the C7 Vette.

335BBS · 12-07-2012, 12:14 PM

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Yeah, my first track day I caught a ride with an advanced run group student who had a C6 Z06 -- totally blew my mind. He hit the front straight at 80 MPH and floored it, and it pulled from 80 to 135 about as hard as my M3 pulls from 30 to 70. I agree about that sensation of driving such a long car, though I feel that way when I get into an E89 Z4 as well to some extent.

The new Mustang has optional Recaro seats which I'm told are amazing, but yes the stock seats aren't so hot and I too find the interior drab overall. The Vette can have a nice(r) interior with the 4LZ package, but it's still not going to match the E9x. However, given how drop-dead gorgeous the new Viper's interior looks -- by any standard at all, never mind compared to the previous Viper, and especially with the Laguna Leather package -- I'll be VERY curious to see what happens with the C7 Vette.

New Vette is in the Magazines now. Looks great.

jphughan · 12-07-2012, 12:33 PM

^ Where? All I've seen have been mostly-uncovered spy shots and renderings.

335BBS · 12-07-2012, 12:34 PM

I drove a new Camaro recently. What a great car. Interior is a little weird but great value and they TURN now!

See5 · 12-07-2012, 12:38 PM

I've driven a '13 Boss 302 and its an awesome car. Really surprised at what they've done with the Mustang. That 5.0 at 7500rpm with the sidepipe opened up sounds ridiculous.

As for the 'Vettes, I had a modded one for 4 years have driven everything from based C5's to modded ZR1's. Never let me down. Will buy a C6 Z06 or C7 in the next few years hopefully. For performance, I like driving them much better than any BMW I've been in.

Markyd83 · 12-07-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jphughan

^ Where? All I've seen have been mostly-uncovered spy shots and renderings.

New road and track gas an article and pics.

TigOn. · 12-07-2012, 12:48 PM

You can get a great deal on a grand sport vette now for 44K, amazing performance at that price point.

Michael Schott · 12-07-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Markyd83

New road and track gas an article and pics.

Car and Driver not Road & Track.

GoRomeo · 12-07-2012, 03:21 PM

Never been a fan of muscle cars. IMHO they can carry great horsepower but they also lack on everything else....

benzo23 · 12-07-2012, 03:30 PM

I had my heart set on a Boss 302 before i got my e92. I wanted something loud, fast, it was time for a muscle car attitude. I test drove a GT cause the boss wasnt in stock yet just to get a mustang feel before i ordered the boss, same thing. What a POS inside, cheap plastic everything. Im like 45k for the interior of a ford focus rental? GTFoutta here. So i walked on that idea and got my e92.

Michael Schott · 12-07-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoRomeo

Never been a fan of mussle cars. IMHO they can carry great horsepower but they also lack on everything else....

Neither of these are muscle cars in the 1960' sense. The Vette of course is a true sports car and does everything well except for it's interior and the Mustang GT (I assume you mean GT not RT) handles and stops pretty darn well. It's easily the best handling car in it's segment.

GoRomeo · 12-07-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Schott

Neither of these are muscle cars in the 1960' sense. The Vette of course is a true sports car and does everything well except for it's interior and the Mustang GT (I assume you mean GT not RT) handles and stops pretty darn well. It's easily the best handling car in it's segment.

You could be right, but with all due respect they still suck to me....

Scootguy58 · 12-07-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoRomeo

Never been a fan of mussle cars. IMHO they can carry great horsepower but they also lack on everything else....

What's "everything else"? Great ride, A/c, heated seats, great brakes, fantastic torque?? When zooming down the road, one does not pay much attention to the cruddy plastic and grade B leather.....
BTW..we have both, an E93 (hers) and a Z06 (hers and mine). There is totally a different mindset when driving one vehicle or the other, as they are both sporty, but in totally different ways. Both cars have been tracked on HPDE events. One is like "this is really great..let's go flat out" and the other is "Oh no! Oh no! Oh no!..Crxp! Let's do that again!"
PS: I am sixty five and have owned and driven everything from VW's to Volvos, BMW, plenty of GM's, Nissans and even a Lincoln Mark VII (cool!). The Z and the E93 happen to be the nicest to own and drive.

The 2013 3 series loaners that I have had are just not right!

Das_Stig · 12-07-2012, 03:47 PM

i just can't get behind the looks on the modern muscle cars.. but i am a corvette fan, wouldnt mind taking one for a test drive. maybe i should see if i like it on the road rather than jsut visual appeal

Michael Schott · 12-07-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoRomeo

You could be right, but with all due respect they still suck to me....

Whatever. Are you 12?

mccannable · 12-07-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TigOn.

You can get a great deal on a grand sport vette now for 44K, amazing performance at that price point.

I wish I liked them, that's a hard price to beat.

Thrash · 12-07-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mccannable

I wish I liked them, that's a hard price to beat.

Agreed

boostbuddy · 12-07-2012, 05:30 PM

I guess MPG isn't entering into this discussion. I like my power and efficiency too.

galahad05 · 12-07-2012, 05:32 PM

Eh, M3 performance at way better gas mileage (than the M3).

boostbuddy · 12-07-2012, 05:35 PM

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Eh, M3 performance at way better gas mileage (than the M3).

Maybe but let's see em get 30+ MPG on highway like me.
Just pulled a 0-60 of 4.6 today...

1NS0MN1A · 12-07-2012, 05:38 PM

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Maybe but let's see em get 30+ MPG on highway like me.
Just pulled a 0-60 of 4.6 today...

With all those mods. 5.0s are under or around the 4.5 mark stock, plus they don't have hpfp problems, and since it is N/A the engine feels much better. Two totally different cars, performance wise the 5.0 takes it, quality wise the bmw takes it, but not by much.

12-07-2012, 10:49 AM	#1
pimp4cheddar El Capitán Drives: Mojave E92 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,479 iTrader: (8)	Test drove a 5.0 Mustang and Vette Grand Sport yesterday... Mustang was kinda sloppy...but the Vette...actually felt pretty nice. The 5.0 was the RT version which had upgraded wheels, intake and also the Roush exhaust. Sounded amazing but didn't care for the interior at all...very ugly and bland interior. The seats sucked as did everything else. Very plastic feeling inside. Also felt very boat like as well... I felt really high up in the car and just didn't do anything for me. Went to drive a Grand Sport right after and that was a much nicer car. Still wouldn't buy it as I had the feeling I was sitting in a 30ft long sports car. I had trouble seeing over the hood as it was so damn long. Felt very grounded and the car was completely built around the driver. Seats were great as were the ergonomics around the drivers side. Car had some power too...and the price was great! Big brake kit and a massive engine felt really nice. Thought I would share...but yes I can see why people buy Vette's. Very great bang for buck!
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12-07-2012, 12:02 PM	#2
jphughan Colonel Drives: 2011.75 M3 E92 6MT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,223 iTrader: (0)	Yeah, my first track day I caught a ride with an advanced run group student who had a C6 Z06 -- totally blew my mind. He hit the front straight at 80 MPH and floored it, and it pulled from 80 to 135 about as hard as my M3 pulls from 30 to 70. I agree about that sensation of driving such a long car, though I feel that way when I get into an E89 Z4 as well to some extent. The new Mustang has optional Recaro seats which I'm told are amazing, but yes the stock seats aren't so hot and I too find the interior drab overall. The Vette can have a nice(r) interior with the 4LZ package, but it's still not going to match the E9x. However, given how drop-dead gorgeous the new Viper's interior looks -- by any standard at all, never mind compared to the previous Viper, and especially with the Laguna Leather package -- I'll be VERY curious to see what happens with the C7 Vette. __________________ 11 M3 E92 Le Mans \| Black Nov w/ Alum \| 6MT \| Premium 2 \| Convenience \| 19" \| EDC \| Prem Audio \| Moonroof \| BMW Apps \| Vorshlag Adjustable Camber Plates \| StopTech Street Perf Pads \| Castrol SRF Fluid \| ModMyNav.com rear camera

12-07-2012, 12:33 PM	#4
jphughan Colonel Drives: 2011.75 M3 E92 6MT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,223 iTrader: (0)	^ Where? All I've seen have been mostly-uncovered spy shots and renderings. __________________ 11 M3 E92 Le Mans \| Black Nov w/ Alum \| 6MT \| Premium 2 \| Convenience \| 19" \| EDC \| Prem Audio \| Moonroof \| BMW Apps \| Vorshlag Adjustable Camber Plates \| StopTech Street Perf Pads \| Castrol SRF Fluid \| ModMyNav.com rear camera

12-07-2012, 12:38 PM	#6
See5 Real Goon Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta Posts: 199 iTrader: (0)	I've driven a '13 Boss 302 and its an awesome car. Really surprised at what they've done with the Mustang. That 5.0 at 7500rpm with the sidepipe opened up sounds ridiculous. As for the 'Vettes, I had a modded one for 4 years have driven everything from based C5's to modded ZR1's. Never let me down. Will buy a C6 Z06 or C7 in the next few years hopefully. For performance, I like driving them much better than any BMW I've been in. __________________ 2008 335i sedan \| Black/Black \| Auto \| ZSP \| BMS Drop-in

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335BBS Brigadier General Drives: 2009 335 coupe. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 3,562 iTrader: (0)	I drove a new Camaro recently. What a great car. Interior is a little weird but great value and they TURN now!

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GoRomeo Major Drives: 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,150 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [4.00]	Never been a fan of muscle cars. IMHO they can carry great horsepower but they also lack on everything else.... Last edited by GoRomeo; 12-07-2012 at 03:40 PM.

12-07-2012, 03:30 PM	#11
benzo23 Colonel Drives: 11 e92 AW MSport Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: FL Posts: 2,419 iTrader: (0)	I had my heart set on a Boss 302 before i got my e92. I wanted something loud, fast, it was time for a muscle car attitude. I test drove a GT cause the boss wasnt in stock yet just to get a mustang feel before i ordered the boss, same thing. What a POS inside, cheap plastic everything. Im like 45k for the interior of a ford focus rental? GTFoutta here. So i walked on that idea and got my e92.

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Das_Stig I don't drink water. Fish fuck in it. Drives: e90 335xi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Some say he naturally faces magnetic north, and that all of his legs are hydraulic... Posts: 825 iTrader: (1)	i just can't get behind the looks on the modern muscle cars.. but i am a corvette fan, wouldnt mind taking one for a test drive. maybe i should see if i like it on the road rather than jsut visual appeal

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boostbuddy New Member Drives: 2009 E92 335i LeMans Blue Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	I guess MPG isn't entering into this discussion. I like my power and efficiency too. __________________ JB4 G5 ISO\|DCI\|MSport\|Premium\|Cold Weather\|6AT\|Nav\|Paddles\|Comfort Access\|PDC

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galahad05 Colonel Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 2,211 iTrader: (0)	Eh, M3 performance at way better gas mileage (than the M3). __________________ Don't resent growing old. Many are denied the privilege. --Irish Proverb

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