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      12-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #1
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1.5 mile drive to work?

Is it ok for the car if i drive to work daily 1.5 miles 1 way? i wouldn't get on it but wonder if that's good as the car wont even warm up?

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      12-09-2012, 11:02 AM   #2
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Is it ok for the car if i drive to work daily 1.5 miles 1 way? i wouldn't get on it but wonder if that's good as the car wont even warm up?

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Lucky you.. I drive a ton each week and I hate putting the miles on my car. You don't have to restrict yourself to 3 miles a day back and forth.... take it out a couple times a week on the interstate and let it rip.
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      12-09-2012, 11:14 AM   #3
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No, car's dme will fail out of utter disappointment lol. Seriously it's fine as you said if you don't beat on it when cold. But I would try and do some longer drives to keep the battery in check. I drive 38 miles each way to work. I laugh when people lament the miles they put on their 335's...its a bimmer not a 60s era ferrari. I don't care about the miles. I bought this car to drive it, not to stare at it in my garage.
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in regards to carbon build up, it may increase it if the oil temperature never gets to operating temps
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      12-09-2012, 11:38 AM   #5
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in regards to carbon build up, it may increase it if the oil temperature never gets to operating temps
That might be true, but Caron blasting is something you are going to have to do regardless anyways with the design of our engines.

A couple miles earlier or later really doesn't make a different IMO.
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Thanks for the responses, I will try to bike to work once in a while as weather permits and then take it out on the weekend to rip it, . Now I can mod the crap out of it too....
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Thanks for the responses, I will try to bike to work once in a while as weather permits and then take it out on the weekend to rip it, . Now I can mod the crap out of it too....
I just walk most of the time but I still need to drive in 2nd gear close to the redline for several minutes to heat the oil and get rid of carbon buildup. I do it once a month or so.
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I just walk most of the time but I still need to drive in 2nd gear close to the redline for several minutes to heat the oil and get rid of carbon buildup. I do it once a month or so.
I wouldn't redline it to heat up the oil. I'd let it warm up normally and only then rev it to redline.

And, in any event, running it to redline is not going to help reduce the build-up of crud on the intake valves.

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I wouldn't redline it to heat up the oil. I'd let it warm up normally and only then rev it to redline.

And, in any event, running it to redline is not going to help reduce the build-up of crud on the intake valves.

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That's right. Normal driving for the typical operating temps.
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I just walk most of the time but I still need to drive in 2nd gear close to the redline for several minutes to heat the oil and get rid of carbon buildup. I do it once a month or so.
The car needs to be warm before you slam redline. And slamming to redline isn't going to get rid of the carbon buildup.
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Other issue with oil not getting to temp for an extended period of time: Moisture buildup in the oil.
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You should wait till oil temps to reach 170 before getting into boost.
As others have said it's not actually good for a car to make short trips without warming up, but if you have choice, I would suggest warming the car up 5-10 min prior to driving to give it a chance to get to full operating temp.

Revving high during warm up is not the proper way of "warming up" an engine. You should operate the car normally and conservatively until it warms up on its own.

Full operating temp gets moisture out of the oil, exhaust and gives other components time to get to operating temp for proper lubrication ETC
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      12-09-2012, 07:38 PM   #13
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One and a half miles? Why not just walk?
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One and a half miles? Why not just walk?
Would you when you have a 335i to drive?

Most people wouldn't lol....

I have an E93....I know I would never!
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You should wait till oil temps to reach 170 before getting into boost.
As others have said it's not actually good for a car to make short trips without warming up, but if you have choice, I would suggest warming the car up 5-10 min prior to driving to give it a chance to get to full operating temp.

Revving high during warm up is not the proper way of "warming up" an engine. You should operate the car normally and conservatively until it warms up on its own.

Full operating temp gets moisture out of the oil, exhaust and gives other components time to get to operating temp for proper lubrication ETC
Idling from a cold start will clog your cats
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Idling from a cold start will clog your cats
i read this thread and the thread that the guy above me posted and want to clarify an issue...

So I know it isn't good to run the car hard before it has time to properly warm up on its own, but what is the issue with idling until it warms up and then you are on your way. Why would idling until its warm be any different than driving conservatively until its warm? Is it the moderate air flow from normal driving that helps this or would it be acceptable to idle for awhile to warm up if the majority of your drives aren't long enough to reach 160-170F oil temps.

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hahaha...i live on an island and my commute to work is literally 1.2 miles. I've been putting 7k miles/year on my car. No problems thus far. If you search I asked the same question a few years ago when I got mine. I've built myself a pretty cool chopper bicycle to ride to work. If your under 6' you would have a tough time riding it.
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Its a car, its meant to get you from point a to point b.
Dont walk lol thats ridiculous.
Just enjoy the car man, dont stress over little things.
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i read this thread and the thread that the guy above me posted and want to clarify an issue...

So I know it isn't good to run the car hard before it has time to properly warm up on its own, but what is the issue with idling until it warms up and then you are on your way. Why would idling until its warm be any different than driving conservatively until its warm? Is it the moderate air flow from normal driving that helps this or would it be acceptable to idle for awhile to warm up if the majority of your drives aren't long enough to reach 160-170F oil temps.

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In terms of oil temp there is no difference. But remember there are more fluids in the car than just oil. The tranny, diff, as well as the rest of little things on the car, brakes, tires, even the wheel bearings (I know thats minuscule) will not be up to operating temps. I used to have an STi and it was actually a big deal getting the diffs up to temp seeing as it had 3 diffs, one clutch the other two torque biasing gear types, obviously a single open diff won't need much time to heat up.
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