H&R springs on e90 too low! - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Nick.W · 12-10-2012, 02:37 PM

Good evening guys. I'm after some advice if you would be so kind

I have a set of 19" csl reps et35 and H&R 40mm lowering springs with standard m sport shocks on my E90.

The ride is so hard that when I go over even the smallest of potholes/bumps it feels like I'm doing serious damage to the car and the shocks are going to smash through the strut tops.

I love the stance and look of the car but its pretty much on the verge of undrivable!!

What would you guys do in this situation, would coilovers make much difference?just go back to M Sport springs?

I love the look but I dread driving it!

Here's a pic

TigOn. · 12-10-2012, 02:43 PM

Get coils, the spring will match the dampers.

tigermack · 12-10-2012, 02:46 PM

I think you should have went with some shocks with the springs.

techy1 · 12-10-2012, 02:52 PM

sport or race springs?

Nick.W · 12-10-2012, 02:53 PM

Agreed it needs something. I'm reluctant to buy a decent set of coilovers if the ride is going to be just as hard, same problem still if I buy some Uprated shocks what's to say I won't still be in the same position.

I'm just after a general consensus as to what my best option is as its definitely not a pleasure to drive at the moment and I want to get it sorted once and for all

BMW_Belgier · 12-10-2012, 02:53 PM

Everybody knows that just springs is catastrophical...

Why don't people inform before doing...

OP: Buy some shocks! Bilstein shocks would give you a nice combo.

Nick.W · 12-10-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by techy1

sport or race springs?

I'm not sure which ones they are, the part number is 29183-1 if that helps?

Nick.W · 12-10-2012, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW_Belgier

Everybody knows that just springs is catastrophical...

Why don't people inform before doing...

OP: Buy some shocks! Bilstein shocks would give you a nice combo.

Sorry I'm still finding my way...the springs were said to 'complement' the existing equipment. Well I can say they certainly don't!!

KwlAznKid · 12-10-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick.W

I'm not sure which ones they are, the part number is 29183-1 if that helps?

i googled that and it's sports.. so good thing you didn't get race lol, sports shouldn't be too bad, r your roads really bad there or something?

Nick.W · 12-10-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KwlAznKid

i googled that and it's sports.. so good thing you didn't get race lol, sports shouldn't be too bad, r your roads really bad there or something?

Thanks for that!

Yes and no really, it feels like I have zero travel from the shocks though

JohnSprm69 · 12-10-2012, 03:40 PM

could your struts be shot??

VMRWheels · 12-10-2012, 03:44 PM

Hmm, I wonder what's going on. The ride shouldn't be too bad. Definitely stiffer than stock but shouldn't feel like you're destroying the strut towers.

Nick.W · 12-10-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoosh69

could your struts be shot??

Nope my struts are in perfect condition and were properly checked when the springs went on. The shocks have only covered about 30k and only around 1k with the H&R springs on.

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Originally Posted by VMRWheels

Hmm, I wonder what's going on. The ride shouldn't be too bad. Definitely stiffer than stock but shouldn't feel like you're destroying the strut towers.

Our Uk roads certainly don't help but it literally feels like there is zero suspension travel.

I have had cars previously that have been lowered by a lot but they have all felt like there is a travel left. The Bm is totally different

BMW_Belgier · 12-10-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick.W

Sorry I'm still finding my way...the springs were said to 'complement' the existing equipment. Well I can say they certainly don't!!

H&R is know for a "hard" ride... You would have had a "softer" ride with Eibach...

Just get shocks and you'll be fine

techy1 · 12-10-2012, 06:09 PM

+1 on the shocks... koni yellow i believe goes well with these.

Saintor · 12-10-2012, 07:01 PM

I had to change my front shocks.... they can be shot, even if you barely see a leak. It made a night and day difference. I have an Eibach kit.

J02 335i · 12-10-2012, 07:23 PM

I have H&R sport's with stock struts and shocks, and well the ride is rough, but nowhere near undrivable.

I cant remember, but do the bump stops on the stock struts need to trimmed down when installing H&R's? If so and that wasn't done, then that will defiantly be the cause of your problem.

KMEddy · 12-10-2012, 08:34 PM

I have the Bilstein sport shocks and H&R spring (x-drive if that matters) and while the ride is stiffer then the stock suspension it is nowhere near unbearable. Maybe just go back to stock suspension if you liked the feel of that better. Any lowering option is going to compromise the ride quality to some degree.

edirtaynine · 12-11-2012, 01:28 AM

if i were you, id keep that ride height and switch the wheels/tires down to 18s with thicker rubber. then you can still be low and have a bit more rubber.

khaye1 · 12-11-2012, 02:00 AM

I have a coupe and my H&R sport with stock shocks and struts are fine. A little stiffer than stock but pretty comfortable.

lonestar22 · 12-17-2012, 12:19 AM

Put your stock setup back on. Being lowered isnt for you. Even coilovers will ride too rough for you

MikeR1994 · 12-18-2012, 08:43 AM

If you want to use your H&R springs and save some money just go for Koni Yellows. You'll find them to be a nice compromise. The reason your ride is so spine jarring is because your shocks are probably bottoming out or you're nailing your bump stops. KW makes coilovers that are centered around comfort that you could also take a look at. Any coilover is going to be more forgiving than bottoming out/blown shocks though. Mine felt more compliant than my stock nonsupport suspension before they blew on me.

12-10-2012, 02:37 PM	#1
Nick.W New Member Drives: Bmw 330d M Sport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southampton England Posts: 24 iTrader: (0)	H&R springs on e90 too low! Good evening guys. I'm after some advice if you would be so kind I have a set of 19" csl reps et35 and H&R 40mm lowering springs with standard m sport shocks on my E90. The ride is so hard that when I go over even the smallest of potholes/bumps it feels like I'm doing serious damage to the car and the shocks are going to smash through the strut tops. I love the stance and look of the car but its pretty much on the verge of undrivable!! What would you guys do in this situation, would coilovers make much difference?just go back to M Sport springs? I love the look but I dread driving it! Here's a pic
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12-10-2012, 02:43 PM	#2
TigOn. Sergeant Drives: 07 N54 e90 FBO / 08 BMW X3 / Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 421 iTrader: (0)	Get coils, the spring will match the dampers. __________________ JB4 G5 iso///BMS DCI///AA Downpipes///AA Intercooler///Alpina B3 GT3 Flash///CF CSL trunk///OEM 220 wheels///Modded Exhaust///Tri-Stiched DCT steering wheel///Michelin PSS///M3 Front Control Arm/Tension Strut Retrofit///ST Coilovers///3M CF Interior Trim///Cyba Air Scoops & Exhaust Tips///CPE CP///LED'S///MTech V4's

12-10-2012, 02:53 PM	#6
BMW_Belgier Major Drives: E92 335xi n55 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1,359 iTrader: (0)	Everybody knows that just springs is catastrophical... Why don't people inform before doing... OP: Buy some shocks! Bilstein shocks would give you a nice combo. __________________ BEFORE: 130i N52 (2006-2011) NOW: 335xi N55 (2011- )

12-10-2012, 03:40 PM	#11
JohnSprm69 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: AW e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,630 iTrader: (4)	could your struts be shot?? __________________ FOR SALE: 2009 AW E92 335I, 28,XXX MILES, FULLY LOADED, 6AT......27K

12-10-2012, 03:44 PM	#12
VMRWheels BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 9,896 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 5 Series [3.30]	Hmm, I wonder what's going on. The ride shouldn't be too bad. Definitely stiffer than stock but shouldn't feel like you're destroying the strut towers. __________________ NEW WHEEL MODEL: V721 \| LIVE INVENTORY: V705 V703 V710 \| V710 PICTURE THREAD p. 714-442-7916 extension 103 \| e. kevin.a@velocitymotoring.com \| f. facebook.com/vmrwheels f. flickr.com/vmrwheels

12-10-2012, 02:46 PM	#3
tigermack OPN DIFF Drives: 06' 330i MT TiAg Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pacific Ocean Posts: 823 iTrader: (6) Garage List 1995 BMW e36 325i [3.50] 2006 BMW e90 330i [4.10]	I think you should have went with some shocks with the springs.

12-10-2012, 02:52 PM	#4
techy1 Lieutenant Drives: 2008 328i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brampton Canada Posts: 429 iTrader: (2)	sport or race springs?

12-10-2012, 06:09 PM	#15
techy1 Lieutenant Drives: 2008 328i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brampton Canada Posts: 429 iTrader: (2)	+1 on the shocks... koni yellow i believe goes well with these.

12-10-2012, 07:01 PM	#16
Saintor Colonel Drives: E90 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MTL, Canada Posts: 2,241 iTrader: (1)	I had to change my front shocks.... they can be shot, even if you barely see a leak. It made a night and day difference. I have an Eibach kit. __________________ 2007 E90 AW 323i Step \| Lowered 1.25"/1" \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| PBX \| Debadged \| Scangauge II \| Style 162 18" & 161 17" wheels & rear 15mm spacers

12-10-2012, 07:23 PM	#17
J02 335i Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,502 iTrader: (0)	I have H&R sport's with stock struts and shocks, and well the ride is rough, but nowhere near undrivable. I cant remember, but do the bump stops on the stock struts need to trimmed down when installing H&R's? If so and that wasn't done, then that will defiantly be the cause of your problem. __________________ Sport pack, JB3, Dci, factory oil cooler, 18" M3 reps, Michelin PSS, painted trim, black grills, smoked side markers, LED plate lights, H&R coils, muffler delete

12-10-2012, 08:34 PM	#18
KMEddy Private First Class Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Vermont Posts: 139 iTrader: (0)	I have the Bilstein sport shocks and H&R spring (x-drive if that matters) and while the ride is stiffer then the stock suspension it is nowhere near unbearable. Maybe just go back to stock suspension if you liked the feel of that better. Any lowering option is going to compromise the ride quality to some degree.

12-11-2012, 01:28 AM	#19
edirtaynine Major General Drives: e92 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 5,228 iTrader: (0)	if i were you, id keep that ride height and switch the wheels/tires down to 18s with thicker rubber. then you can still be low and have a bit more rubber. __________________ e90post killed plastidip Just say no to painted stock wheels

12-11-2012, 02:00 AM	#20
khaye1 Colonel Drives: '12 MW 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,496 iTrader: (5)	I have a coupe and my H&R sport with stock shocks and struts are fine. A little stiffer than stock but pretty comfortable. __________________

12-17-2012, 12:19 AM	#21
lonestar22 Ground Clearance? Drives: 330i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 1,345 iTrader: (-1)	Put your stock setup back on. Being lowered isnt for you. Even coilovers will ride too rough for you __________________ Slammed E90. One of the First. Stay Fitted

12-18-2012, 08:43 AM	#22
MikeR1994 Private First Class Drives: 06 e90 325i, 05 325Ci (RIP) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 190 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 325i [0.00]	If you want to use your H&R springs and save some money just go for Koni Yellows. You'll find them to be a nice compromise. The reason your ride is so spine jarring is because your shocks are probably bottoming out or you're nailing your bump stops. KW makes coilovers that are centered around comfort that you could also take a look at. Any coilover is going to be more forgiving than bottoming out/blown shocks though. Mine felt more compliant than my stock nonsupport suspension before they blew on me. __________________ -Michael Active Autowerke Stage II Tune \| MMW CSv2 Exhaust \| MMW Catless Headers \| H&R Streetperformance Coilovers \| 235/35 Sumitomo HTR ZII squared \| 19x8.5 Hyperblack CSL's \| M3 style front \| trim wrapped in brushed steel vinyl \| Slightly smoked tail lights with clear reverse lights \| factory xenons

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