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      12-17-2012, 08:01 PM   #705
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I think all makes have their problems and the higher end are no different. BMW is no different, and I have been reading horror stories recently about Porsches. It is well known that some Porsches develop premature cylinder scoring of the cylinders (first gen Caymans 2006-2008) and other 911s. This is more significant in terms of problems than the annoying ghoulies of the M3s CEL. Anyway, I am no longer sure I'll get a used Cayman after all.

As for VWs, many folks have had bad experiences. I for one have a different experience from what others report. I have driven over 500,000 kms on 4 VWs and I can tell you I am quite impressed with the low number of problems I have experienced, and in particular engine related. Yes, some parts need changing due to wear/tear (alternator, water pump etc.), but these were on cars that I drove over 250,000 kms. The engines are quite bulletproof. My 2002 GLI (VR6) has now over 230,000kms and I have changed brakes just once at 120,000 kms. The rear rotors are now a little rusty now, so I will be changing all of them soon, 230$ for parts all 4 corners (pads and rotors).
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to be fair. this string of events has been the 1st time this has hapenned every since the start of owning the car. no real issues...hopefully this will be the only one
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I think all makes have their problems and the higher end are no different. BMW is no different, and I have been reading horror stories recently about Porsches. It is well known that some Porsches develop premature cylinder scoring of the cylinders (first gen Caymans 2006-2008) and other 911s. This is more significant in terms of problems than the annoying ghoulies of the M3s CEL. Anyway, I am no longer sure I'll get a used Cayman after all.

As for VWs, many folks have had bad experiences. I for one have a different experience from what others report. I have driven over 500,000 kms on 4 VWs and I can tell you I am quite impressed with the low number of problems I have experienced, and in particular engine related. Yes, some parts need changing due to wear/tear (alternator, water pump etc.), but these were on cars that I drove over 250,000 kms. The engines are quite bulletproof. My 2002 GLI (VR6) has now over 230,000kms and I have changed brakes just once at 120,000 kms. The rear rotors are now a little rusty now, so I will be changing all of them soon, 230$ for parts all 4 corners (pads and rotors).
No brand is immune like you said. I shyed away from the 996 GT3 after reading all the stories of joy. I did quite a bit of research on the E46M3 and knowing what I know now ... would have been a C7 LS3 with dry sump. Live and learn kiddies.

Good to hear about your experience with the VW.
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to be fair. this string of events has been the 1st time this has hapenned every since the start of owning the car. no real issues...hopefully this will be the only one
yea, i think its just a little burst of bad luck.... my red M was solid like a rock all the way till 53k mms when i handed it over to fahad... dont think he's having any major issues either. i still think the e9x m3 is pretty reliable overall.
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I think all makes have their problems and the higher end are no different. BMW is no different, and I have been reading horror stories recently about Porsches. It is well known that some Porsches develop premature cylinder scoring of the cylinders (first gen Caymans 2006-2008) and other 911s. This is more significant in terms of problems than the annoying ghoulies of the M3s CEL. Anyway, I am no longer sure I'll get a used Cayman after all.

As for VWs, many folks have had bad experiences. I for one have a different experience from what others report. I have driven over 500,000 kms on 4 VWs and I can tell you I am quite impressed with the low number of problems I have experienced, and in particular engine related. Yes, some parts need changing due to wear/tear (alternator, water pump etc.), but these were on cars that I drove over 250,000 kms. The engines are quite bulletproof. My 2002 GLI (VR6) has now over 230,000kms and I have changed brakes just once at 120,000 kms. The rear rotors are now a little rusty now, so I will be changing all of them soon, 230$ for parts all 4 corners (pads and rotors).
Ken, I agree. When you buy a german automobile you never know what you are going to get and in my book it is about preventive maintenance versus the threshold of pain & aggravation one is willing to put up with.

My wife's 2000 VW1.8T served us well for just over 12-years and it even saw some track time. Over the years, some stuff broke but overall the car was bullit proof. It was replaced by a 2010 VW GTI (my wife as an attachment to VW) and I'm hoping it proves as solid as the good old MKIV Golf. I'm in the market for an old 911 (I will spare you the details but Tony can fill you in on my obsession in getting the best deal possible), when I do pull the trigger it will be an air cooled 911 with the least electronics possible.
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Ken, I agree. When you buy a german automobile you never know what you are going to get and in my book it is about preventive maintenance versus the threshold of pain & aggravation one is willing to put up with.

My wife's 2000 VW1.8T served us well for just over 12-years and it even saw some track time. Over the years, some stuff broke but overall the car was bullit proof. It was replaced by a 2010 VW GTI (my wife as an attachment to VW) and I'm hoping it proves as solid as the good old MKIV Golf. I'm in the market for an old 911 (I will spare you the details but Tony can fill you in on my obsession in getting the best deal possible), when I do pull the trigger it will be an air cooled 911 with the least electronics possible.
Had I known you were looking, because I recently had the chance to buy a 993 1997 widebody with low kms at $34k and it was nego. Never winter driven of course and cared for. I did not bite because i'd be replacing my 2007 335 with a 1997 which is risky, but I think such a car is a classic, last of the air cooled but with a less wild rear!
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Had I known you were looking, because I recently had the chance to buy a 993 1997 widebody with low kms at $34k and it was nego. Never winter driven of course and cared for. I did not bite because i'd be replacing my 2007 335 with a 1997 which is risky, but I think such a car is a classic, last of the air cooled but with a less wild rear!
That is a pretty good price, Montreal or out of town? Is it still available?
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That is a pretty good price, Montreal or out of town? Is it still available?
Mtl, but likely sold! u interested?

Here are some reported issues to be aware of :

http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/9...buy_guide.html
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Had I known you were looking, because I recently had the chance to buy a 993 1997 widebody with low kms at $34k and it was nego. Never winter driven of course and cared for. I did not bite because i'd be replacing my 2007 335 with a 1997 which is risky, but I think such a car is a classic, last of the air cooled but with a less wild rear!
993s are so sexy.... esp with an over the top wide body kit.
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993s are so sexy.... esp with an over the top
Tres jolie set of wheels. I'll take two please.
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Thanks for the link, I have been educating myself on air cooled 911's. If you have the link of the 993 PM it to me or post it, doesn't hurt to look.
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Thanks for the link, I have been educating myself on air cooled 911's. If you have the link of the 993 PM it to me or post it, doesn't hurt to look.
I think it's this one


Price I quoted before was if it were a private sale to me. So not available at that price anymore.
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Price I quoted before was if it were a private sale to me. So not available at that price anymore.
Ken, the car is still there sitting in the showroom.

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Ken, the car is still there sitting in the showroom. Saw it last week on my way to the airport. At $43K it is overpriced, how the hell did you negotiate it to $34K? That means there is a lot of margin on this car.
To be fair, it's an ex-colleague's car who said he would do a great price for me if I took it and the price he mentioned then was 34 in passing, but since we did not talk about it again or re-discuss, I would say not to put too much weight on it.

Oh! he did say only because it's me. Known him for over 25 yrs.

Can you do me a favor and delete the link on your post quoting me, just in case....
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Anybody live near Laval and can help me with a small test? I want to test my car with a working iphone / ipod cable.

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That would be an interesting combo. Throw in a little Jiro Ono compulsiveness and you would have one crazy mean outfit!
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That would be an interesting combo. Throw in a little Jiro Ono compulsiveness and you would have one crazy mean outfit!
I had downloaded that documentary many months ago. Great little jewel.
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car's fixed. problem was likely caused by me. air sensor was fucked and likely due to me over oiling my filter which burned it...so....don't over oil your filter! lol
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car's fixed. problem was likely caused by me. air sensor was fucked and likely due to me over oiling my filter which burned it...so....don't over oil your filter! lol
yes I have heard of this issue of the excess oil getting on the MAF sensor and since it is heated, it gets burned with the oil on it.
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car's fixed. problem was likely caused by me. air sensor was fucked and likely due to me over oiling my filter which burned it...so....don't over oil your filter! lol
yea thats definitely a possibility... i usually only go through the filter with one coat of oil and not any more than that. i use the K&N oil bottle which has a small nozzle at the end so its easier to control how much oil you add onto the filter.
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