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      12-27-2012, 09:14 AM   #23
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      12-27-2012, 09:17 AM   #24
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Just curious how does cold weather ruin summer tires?
Below 40 degrees Fahrenheit, summer tires' rubber become as hard as a rock.
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      12-27-2012, 09:38 AM   #25
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Oh shit my bad! I'm sorry you guys are completely right!
That's what I get for trying to read a post after 10 hours of staring at a server screen
Forgive me and my ignorance OP!!
I'm right here with you, LOVIN my winter setup.
So sorry...ugh.
do you just like to get on here and bash on people, seems like you do.
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      12-27-2012, 10:03 AM   #26
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People think AWD and all seasons are actually good in snow, but a good snow tire setup in a rear wheel drive car is still way better - I used to drive around SUV's having issues with their crappy all season tires in my old E46 with RWD.
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      12-27-2012, 10:17 AM   #27
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People think AWD and all seasons are actually good in snow, but a good snow tire setup in a rear wheel drive car is still way better - I used to drive around SUV's having issues with their crappy all season tires in my old E46 with RWD.
Given the option of AWD with a good set of all seasons and RWD with snow, I would take the AWD anyday of the week.
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      12-27-2012, 10:29 AM   #28
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I did notice my summer tires loosing some grip on cold days. While the winter tires (Dunlop's) don't perform near my summer tires...they are strong performers.

And yes we do get warm winter days in VA. My guess is the soft rubber will wear faster, but other than that they perform well. And on snow are excellent!
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      12-27-2012, 01:03 PM   #29
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We got 7" yesterday but with 45-50mph winds some roads that border open fields had 10-14" of snow cover. I patrolled in it yesterday from start to finish...exhausting. I have to drive in this stuff in my 2011 Crown Vic with Good Year RSA's. Soso tires on a rear wheel drive vehicle and generally I get along quite well. EVERY vehicle has it's limits and it's key to know yours in order to drive in these conditions safely. All day I laughed at the idiocy in front of me. Most stuck vehicles were there from poor tire tread. There was one that whas as smooth as a drag slick. That dumb ass was surprised when I told him to pull into the closest parking lot and park it...he had no business driving it in this weather. I saw a 4x4 with chrome 22" wheels having trouble getting down a plowed street...idiot still had the high performance (summer) tires on it. Quite a few a good vehicles but the drivers had NO IDEA how to drive in snow. They thought that when you get stuck you freed yourself by flooring it until your car smokes. One lady got indignant when I asked if she had EVER driven in snow before, her car would slide and she kept turning INTO the direction it was going rather than turning in the direction you want it to go. UGH, what a loooong frustrating day. Several 4x4 trucks had to get towed out because the drivers thought they could drive through anything. I have NEVER owned a set of snow tires...maybe one day when I have the extra coin. I have DWS on my 330i and I get by fine. However, I don't try to navigate 10" of snow that even snow tires would not help. Know your limits and drive accordingly. Otherwise, stay at home and make the rest of us more safe.
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      12-27-2012, 01:19 PM   #30
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Am I the only one who read the whole post?
haha for some reason the way it was going everyone just jumped ahead myself included.. i guess we all just linked nervous about summer tires and do not fear lol
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      12-28-2012, 01:02 AM   #31
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Hey we just 45cm here in Montreal Canada - that is a shit load of snow - and my E93 performed very well. I'm really happy cause I was very hesitant coming from E92 Xi especially here north of the border the winter don't play lol! i have 17'' set up...it doesn't real great but awesome in the snow!
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      12-28-2012, 10:40 AM   #32
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do you just like to get on here and bash on people, seems like you do.
WTF He apologized man...

Dark: Winter tires have a softer compound. Summer tires are to hard (loosing grip) at low temperatures! And ofcourse the profile of the tire...
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      12-28-2012, 05:38 PM   #34
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do you just like to get on here and bash on people, seems like you do.
WTF He apologized man...

Dark: Winter tires have a softer compound. Summer tires are to hard (loosing grip) at low temperatures! And ofcourse the profile of the tire...
Yep, not to mention potential cracking of the summer tire rubber on some tires. How was your holiday mate?
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      12-28-2012, 05:42 PM   #35
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Given the option of AWD with a good set of all seasons and RWD with snow, I would take the AWD anyday of the week.
discussed 1000 times before and pretty much a fact now that RWD + snow tires is better and safer then AWD + AS

* with maybe 1 exception when you use shitty winter tires and the best (Conti DWS) AS tires.
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discussed 1000 times before and pretty much a fact now that RWD + snow tires is better and safer then AWD + AS

* with maybe 1 exception when you use shitty winter tires and the best (Conti DWS) AS tires.
Do you even know what a fact means? I dont want to sound like a broken record like you, but there are things that a AWD with all season can do better than RWD with snow.
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Do you even know what a fact means? I dont want to sound like a broken record like you, but there are things that a AWD with all season can do better than RWD with snow.
yes, it can get you out of parking lot full of snow and it can climb a hill. when it comes to regular street driving and safety it looses in every category.

for me fact = personal experience + opinion of many others + backed up by tirerack test results

Broken record it is though, I am tired responding to so many misleading comments on this topic. Its been beaten to death already.

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      12-28-2012, 08:06 PM   #38
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WTF He apologized man...

Dark: Winter tires have a softer compound. Summer tires are to hard (loosing grip) at low temperatures! And ofcourse the profile of the tire...
lol i was just messin with him.
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at the two people who didn't read the entire thread. Come on guys, don't try to bash the OP when you didn't read the thread precisely enough
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WTF He apologized man...

Dark: Winter tires have a softer compound. Summer tires are to hard (loosing grip) at low temperatures! And ofcourse the profile of the tire...
lol i was just messin with him.
Yea I figured you were bro. I know we're cool, just had an off day at the office and got confused for the minute. Lack of sleep will do that to ya. Have a great New Year's Boost, and be safe!
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Northern Va eh? I wouldn't try some Clifton roads in the snow even with a 4x4 Damn I miss that place.
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Yep, not to mention potential cracking of the summer tire rubber on some tires. How was your holiday mate?
I would think that you would need very cold temperatures and/or old tires for cracking up...

I am still enjoying my holidays THX I forgot to buy you your Christmas Gift... Some new wrenches and a big magnet would be something nice wouldn't it

Enjoy your time with your family, loved ones an friends! I enjoy those days very much and so should everybody else!
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Yep, not to mention potential cracking of the summer tire rubber on some tires. How was your holiday mate?
I would think that you would need very cold temperatures and/or old tires for cracking up...

I am still enjoying my holidays THX I forgot to buy you your Christmas Gift... Some new wrenches and a big magnet would be something nice wouldn't it

Enjoy your time with your family, loved ones an friends! I enjoy those days very much and so should everybody else!
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