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      12-08-2012, 11:08 PM   #111
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Any plans to make the charge pipe already predrilled? Can't wait to place my order!
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Most of the wires are for the pump itself. There's only 1 wire that goes directly to the JBD that I can see.
Is it a soldered connection?
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      12-09-2012, 06:17 PM   #113
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^Based on the pic, it looks like it would have to be as the connection was inside the box. Otherwise, you would think they would just tap the wire outside & heat shrink.
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It's a WW kit, which means you use your windshield washer fluid tank for it, and yes, meth is safe for your windshield. :P Windshield washer fluid actually has methanol in it.

Don't think the kit is up yet, btw.
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      12-15-2012, 09:39 PM   #115
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Do you know when the kit will be available? Also, how long does the washer fluid resivoir last before refilling is needed? (If you don't use it to wash the windows)
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      12-18-2012, 12:57 PM   #116
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^Based on the pic, it looks like it would have to be as the connection was inside the box. Otherwise, you would think they would just tap the wire outside & heat shrink.
You need to solder a wire to the JBD and there is also a JBD firmware update. You can mail the JBD in for those ahead of time and they can ship it back with the WW kit. The kit is $479 and ready to ship.

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mike result for this application with 30/70 or 50/50mix ?
Rwhp gain ?
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      12-18-2012, 06:48 PM   #118
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Chris, are you thinking what I'm thinking?
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      12-19-2012, 11:51 AM   #120
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You need to solder a wire to the JBD and there is also a JBD firmware update. You can mail the JBD in for those ahead of time and they can ship it back with the WW kit. The kit is $479 and ready to ship.

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I think I understand the principles and purpose of meth injection, but I would like to know more about how the kit works with the JBD, and the performance results - not just power claims, but the impact of exhaust temps, etc..

Mike, would it be possible to relay some of the details to us from BT?
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the works is simply, it fell the rail pressure sensor voltage (0-5v)and work with this...so am i , attend result on dyno, EGT temp reduction
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I think I understand the principles and purpose of meth injection, but I would like to know more about how the kit works with the JBD, and the performance results - not just power claims, but the impact of exhaust temps, etc..

Mike, would it be possible to relay some of the details to us from BT?
Agreed, some before and after data logs would be nice to better demonstrate the benefits of the BMS kit as it relatest to lowering EGT's. TDwyse did some logging using the kit he bought (not a BMS kit) and by the looks of things it really helped to lower EGT's.

My biggest objection or obstical at this point (while under warranty) is removing the kit and swapping out the charge pipe before dealer visits - not to mention it would require buying a charge pipe (not sure how difficult it is to swap out).
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Agreed, some before and after data logs would be nice to better demonstrate the benefits of the BMS kit as it relatest to lowering EGT's. TDwyse did some logging using the kit he bought (not a BMS kit) and by the looks of things it really helped to lower EGT's.

My biggest objection or obstical at this point (while under warranty) is removing the kit and swapping out the charge pipe before dealer visits - not to mention it would require buying a charge pipe (not sure how difficult it is to swap out).
I know BMS isn't planning on spending much more time with it. But nothing is stopping you from installing the kit and collecting all the data you'd like. The WW kit is easy to install and remove though. Just wait until you are out of warranty and can tap the OEM chargepipe as that is the only cost effective solution.

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mike have you dynoed someone x35d to see the benefict in terms of power?
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      12-30-2012, 08:48 PM   #125
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Anyone get this installed yet? I'm curious as too how the install went and what your impression is.
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Mike, do I just need to ship my JBD to BMS and put a note with it that I'm ordering the WW kit for the D? Also, which charge pipe would we need for the D?
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      12-31-2012, 10:18 PM   #127
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I can tell you that I bumped the JBD up to 100% on the way home without issue, and it felt very, very strong (this was a 155 mile drive home). I'm gonna do some independent dyno testing down here so we can get some torque #'s, too. Need to ping a couple of people to see what I can find down here, but there is a definitive difference, without question. DPF removal is on the near horizon, if I can find someone to do it, and a FMIC replacement.
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Anyone get this installed yet? I'm curious as too how the install went and what your impression is.
I thinking Ronin will chime in when he gets the chance. I'm looking forward to it
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Would this kit make the pull even stronger after 4k rpms? Also, does it kick in after a certain throttle input?
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Ron1n can we ask for your dyno results?
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      02-13-2013, 09:03 PM   #130
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Does anyone know if this can be used without a JBD.
I have a MegaSpeed Tune (with DPF Delete) and was considering this but not a JBD.
Does anyone know the specifics of what the kind of signal the JBD drives with it?
Could it be adapted to work with a tach wire / injector pulse?
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@ MonkUSMC I beleive the JBD does not produce more for the car over 4k. Lenny @ RENNtech was able to do it in the flash and i got 307 whp
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Does anyone know if this can be used without a JBD.
I have a MegaSpeed Tune (with DPF Delete) and was considering this but not a JBD.
Does anyone know the specifics of what the kind of signal the JBD drives with it?
Could it be adapted to work with a tach wire / injector pulse?
I would think you may want to check out some of the SP kits if your going to be custom fitting it anyway. The question then becomes how (if at all) do you need to adapt the mega speed map to account for the meth.
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