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      01-02-2013, 10:33 PM   #353
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You can check by following the instructions to pull down the roof liner and look at the FZD.
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Went to the dealer again today talked to another forman that knew what was going on.. I order the bluetooth atenna for 35.00 but I need the cable that attachs the attena to the MULF.. There isn't enough room to plug it in directly.. Anyone know the name of the cable or the part number for it?

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Is the attenna cable caled BNC cable?
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No. BNC is a bayonet style connector. You need an SMB cable.
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So I am being told now that my ULF alone will not work with out a TCU if I want bluetooth.

not sure where to go from here. I was told I either pick up a TCU to piggy back with the ULF or just get a combox.
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So I am being told now that my ULF alone will not work with out a TCU if I want bluetooth.

not sure where to go from here. I was told I either pick up a TCU to piggy back with the ULF or just get a combox.
You're posting back and forth across a couple of different topics, it's hard to keep track. For verbosity, what's your exact setup? iDrive yes? Year? (It helps to have your car under drives: in your profile, but in this case it wouldn't be a huge help anyway).

The MULF is definitely sufficient for BT and USB. The TCU will also do them, with support for BMW Apps, though is much more expensive. The combox is the mac daddy (USB audio, A2DP BT streaming), but only available for iDrive.

Who's telling you the MULF won't cut it? they're most likely either mistaken or lying to you for money, or else getting a more specific reason they believe that would be helpful.

Anyway, I definitely got hung up on coding the car with 2URAD and 2MULF, so they could be just stuck and looking for an answer, but if that's the case, there are other discussions where solutions have been worked out (look through my post history, there are a couple of threads).
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You're posting back and forth across a couple of different topics, it's hard to keep track. For verbosity, what's your exact setup? iDrive yes? Year? (It helps to have your car under drives: in your profile, but in this case it wouldn't be a huge help anyway).

The MULF is definitely sufficient for BT and USB. The TCU will also do them, with support for BMW Apps, though is much more expensive. The combox is the mac daddy (USB audio, A2DP BT streaming), but only available for iDrive.

Who's telling you the MULF won't cut it? they're most likely either mistaken or lying to you for money, or else getting a more specific reason they believe that would be helpful.

Anyway, I definitely got hung up on coding the car with 2URAD and 2MULF, so they could be just stuck and looking for an answer, but if that's the case, there are other discussions where solutions have been worked out (look through my post history, there are a couple of threads).
I know I have read those threads.. I have been told by two BMW shop foreman that the MULF I have needs the TCU for the bluetooth to work. They said it is very odd that I need the MULF and TCU but because my car was build when they were moving from MULF and TCU to the newer combox that is just the way it is..
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What's the year and equipment? If that's actually true, which seems unbelievably suspect, an aftermarket unit will be MUCH cheaper (denison gateway or mobridge spring to mind)
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What's the year and equipment? If that's actually true, which seems unbelievably suspect, an aftermarket unit will be MUCH cheaper (denison gateway or mobridge spring to mind)
prod.date 2008-10-21 ---- 2009 BMW 328i Sports package

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Description (EPC)
S1CAA SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE Selection of COP-relevant vehicles
S249A MULITFUNKTION FUER LENKRAD Multifunction f steering wheel
S255A SPORT-LEDERLENKRAD Sports leather steering wheel
S2S1A LM RAEDER STERNSPEICHE 286/MB BMW LA wheel star spoke 286
S2VBA REIFENDRUCKANZEIGE Tyre pressure display
S403A GLASDACH, ELEKTRISCH Glass roof, electrical
S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package
S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat
S4ABA EDELHOLZAUSFUEHRUNG NUSSBAUM WURZEL Fine wood trim burr walnut
S521A REGENSENSOR Rain sensor
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S544A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGEL. MIT BREMSF. Cruise control with brake function
S563A LICHTPAKET Light package
S570A STAERKERE STROMVERSORGUNG Reinforced power supply
S5GAA ALARMANLAGENVORBEREITUNG Preparation alarm system
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Description (interface)

Description (EPC)
S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional
S620A SPRACHEINGABESYSTEM Voice control
S653A HIGH DEFINITION RADIO High Definition Radio
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system
S693A SATELLITENTUNER VORBEREITUNG Preparation BMW satellite radio
S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6FLA USB-AUDIO-SCHNITTSTELLE USB/audio interface
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
S704A M SPORTFAHRWERK M Sports suspension
S760A INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE High gloss shadow line
S840A HOCHGESCHWINDIGKEITSABSTIMMUNG High speed synchronisation
S8SCA LAENDERSPEZ. TELESERVICEFREISCH. Telematics access request,country-spec.
S8SPA COP STEUERUNG Control unit COP
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack

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S3APA GRAUKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Windscreen with grey wedge
S497A MITTELARMLEHNE IM FOND Centre armrest, rear
S520A NEBELSCHEINWERFER Fog lights
S645A RADIO-STEUERUNG US BMW US Radio
S823A HEISSLAND-AUSFUEHRUNG Hot-climate version
S845A AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder
S850A ZUSAETZL. TANKFUELLUNG EXPORT Additional Export tank filling
S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version, English
S876A FUNKFREQUENZ 315 MHZ Radio frequency 315 MHz


Everyone here keeps saying I don't need the TCU so I am going to try the last shop that is willing to mess with this in town.. They too said they should just be able to change the VO and it would be an hour of labor.. Then again they said I have to leave my car over night for the car to sleep and that autologic deals with sending stuff to england or something. I know people on here don't let their car sleep before using NCS expert soo I DUNNO..
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I know I have read those threads.. I have been told by two BMW shop foreman that the MULF I have needs the TCU for the bluetooth to work. They said it is very odd that I need the MULF and TCU but because my car was build when they were moving from MULF and TCU to the newer combox that is just the way it is..
i would suggest you go to your trunk with a size 8/10 spanner, remove the 2 nuts that hold the bracket to the MULF and take out the module. take a good photo of the label of the MULF model number and cross check it on realoem. there is no reason why a MULF needs a TCU to work properly since each can exist on it's own for bluetooth functions.
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prod.date 2008-10-21 ---- 2009 BMW 328i Sports package

Close Options
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S1CAA SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE Selection of COP-relevant vehicles
S249A MULITFUNKTION FUER LENKRAD Multifunction f steering wheel
S255A SPORT-LEDERLENKRAD Sports leather steering wheel
S2S1A LM RAEDER STERNSPEICHE 286/MB BMW LA wheel star spoke 286
S2VBA REIFENDRUCKANZEIGE Tyre pressure display
S403A GLASDACH, ELEKTRISCH Glass roof, electrical
S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package
S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat
S4ABA EDELHOLZAUSFUEHRUNG NUSSBAUM WURZEL Fine wood trim burr walnut
S521A REGENSENSOR Rain sensor
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S544A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGEL. MIT BREMSF. Cruise control with brake function
S563A LICHTPAKET Light package
S570A STAERKERE STROMVERSORGUNG Reinforced power supply
S5GAA ALARMANLAGENVORBEREITUNG Preparation alarm system
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Description (interface)

Description (EPC)
S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional
S620A SPRACHEINGABESYSTEM Voice control
S653A HIGH DEFINITION RADIO High Definition Radio
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system
S693A SATELLITENTUNER VORBEREITUNG Preparation BMW satellite radio
S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6FLA USB-AUDIO-SCHNITTSTELLE USB/audio interface
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
S704A M SPORTFAHRWERK M Sports suspension
S760A INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE High gloss shadow line
S840A HOCHGESCHWINDIGKEITSABSTIMMUNG High speed synchronisation
S8SCA LAENDERSPEZ. TELESERVICEFREISCH. Telematics access request,country-spec.
S8SPA COP STEUERUNG Control unit COP
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack

Close Standard equipment
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S3APA GRAUKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Windscreen with grey wedge
S497A MITTELARMLEHNE IM FOND Centre armrest, rear
S520A NEBELSCHEINWERFER Fog lights
S645A RADIO-STEUERUNG US BMW US Radio
S823A HEISSLAND-AUSFUEHRUNG Hot-climate version
S845A AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder
S850A ZUSAETZL. TANKFUELLUNG EXPORT Additional Export tank filling
S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version, English
S876A FUNKFREQUENZ 315 MHZ Radio frequency 315 MHz


Everyone here keeps saying I don't need the TCU so I am going to try the last shop that is willing to mess with this in town.. They too said they should just be able to change the VO and it would be an hour of labor.. Then again they said I have to leave my car over night for the car to sleep and that autologic deals with sending stuff to england or something. I know people on here don't let their car sleep before using NCS expert soo I DUNNO..
the car just needs 15 minutes to get into sleep mode. as what others and I have experienced, if the bluetooth don't work after 15 minutes, it will never work even if you let it sleep for 15 hours.
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i would suggest you go to your trunk with a size 8/10 spanner, remove the 2 nuts that hold the bracket to the MULF and take out the module. take a good photo of the label of the MULF model number and cross check it on realoem. there is no reason why a MULF needs a TCU to work properly since each can exist on it's own for bluetooth functions.
I agree with you and if I had a laptop and windows Id take a crack at this as I work in the IT field. Making this type of stuff not far off in the least bit fomr what I do. lol here is a picture of my ULF..





I am afraid this other shop that is going to mess with it might charge me even if they don't get it to work.. Or take 2 or 3 hours for a 30 min job. Ill prob have a meltdown and cancel the transaction if that happens tho
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I agree with you and if I had a laptop and windows Id take a crack at this as I work in the IT field. Making this type of stuff not far off in the least bit fomr what I do. lol here is a picture of my ULF..





I am afraid this other shop that is going to mess with it might charge me even if they don't get it to work.. Or take 2 or 3 hours for a 30 min job. Ill prob have a meltdown and cancel the transaction if that happens tho
you'll need to remove the bracket. there is another label with the actual model and serial numbers at the side of the MULF.

if you have a macbook, you would always run vmware/parallels to do coding.
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you'll need to remove the bracket. there is another label with the actual model and serial numbers at the side of the MULF.

if you have a macbook, you would always run vmware/parallels to do coding.
I will do that in the morning but I am pretty sure realoem is going to show what you guys have been saying.. It doesn't make sense to have a BT symbol and FCC code yet be unable to activate the blue tooth.. No one has heard of requiring a TCU for bluetooth to work on the ULF.

Yeah I was thinking about doing vmware on my roommates mac but didn't want to add another layer of trouble shooting if I had any problems. Might try it anyway.
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I have a 2011 328i that I would like to add bluetooth to.
I looked up the VIN and found out the production date was 4-2011

---Visible options are usb/audio --plugs in center console, Professional Radio and std phone button on steering wheel. I DO NOT see any boxes in trunk under carpet.

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S655A Satellite Tuner
S6FLA USB/Audio Interface
S8SCA Telematics access request, country spec.

I was quoted $475 + Shipping from Bimmernav, but I am hesitant after reading about the experiences on this board.. also Bimmernav would not provide a list of items I would be paying for and would not say if my vehicle is pre-wired for BT.

ANY help is much appreciated!
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Virgin poster-New to forums in general so please excuse any errors in protocol.

I have a 2011 328i that I would like to add bluetooth to.
I looked up the VIN and found out the production date was 4-2011

---Visible options are usb/audio --plugs in center console, Professional Radio and std phone button on steering wheel. I DO NOT see any boxes in trunk under carpet.

---From the options list:
S655A Satellite Tuner
S6FLA USB/Audio Interface
S8SCA Telematics access request, country spec.

I was quoted $475 + Shipping from Bimmernav, but I am hesitant after reading about the experiences on this board.. also Bimmernav would not provide a list of items I would be paying for and would not say if my vehicle is pre-wired for BT.

ANY help is much appreciated!
you might have one of those radios which has built in BT and USB. best way to check is to take out the radio and look at the labels on it.
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you might have one of those radios which has built in BT and USB. best way to check is to take out the radio and look at the labels on it.
Is removing the radio the only way to tell which one it is? Not that I'm opposed to taking it out to check, just that you would think there was an easier way.
Just curious.
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Is removing the radio the only way to tell which one it is? Not that I'm opposed to taking it out to check, just that you would think there was an easier way.
Just curious.
that's the easiest and fastest.

the other way is to buy a coding cable, setup a coding machine, read out the model number of the radio via software. but you might have problems even communicating with the radio since the software might not recognise this newer model.
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Thank you all for participating in this helpful thread. After reading through it I'm not 100% sure what my car needs to add factory BT. I believe I will need the BT Mic, Antenna and some coding to get the job done. My Product Date is 10-2010. I do not have idrive nor Assist on my 2011 328i. These are my specs:

S645A BMW US Radio
S663A Radio BMW Professional
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Am I correct that i will just need the BT Antenna, Mic and some coding?

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Am I correct that i will just need the BT Antenna, Mic and some coding?
Looks like it, yep!

(You'll also probably need to run wire for the mic. And antenna.)
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Well I'm going in circles here....I just contacted Tischer and they told me that I might already have the BT Mic and Antenna. How would I determine this? Does anyone know of anybody that will do the coding in the DC Metro area? I'm willing to drive a couple hours.
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Well I'm going in circles here....I just contacted Tischer and they told me that I might already have the BT Mic and Antenna. How would I determine this? Does anyone know of anybody that will do the coding in the DC Metro area? I'm willing to drive a couple hours.
if you don't have iDrive, that's *quite* unlikely. You can check for a mic by pulling down the roof and popping out the FZD (center control module with map lights and sunroof control) and you can check for a BT antenna by pulling out the pedal trim (3 screws across the top, then it just sort of slides out with some jimmying) and looking on the left side for a box with a single coax cable running into it.

Search for the install guides for the mic and antenna for details on how to do those two things/what they should look like.
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