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      11-25-2005, 07:46 PM   #23
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THis is no different than any Intake system out in the mkts. Very popular ones with big gains are AEM Cold Air Intake which only cost around $200. Wow $890 is way too steep for an intake system.
lol, aem people still buy their intakes?
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      11-26-2005, 05:05 PM   #24
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Lets see some dyno results. I would consider this if it gave any decent performance gains...
im still waiting for a reply from GruppeM... will post it up when i get a response
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      11-26-2005, 05:24 PM   #25
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      11-27-2005, 07:36 PM   #27
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looks stock is it just the carbon fiber over it ?
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Does this type of mod void the factory warranty?

I would also be willing to bet that any modest performance gain would not be that noticeable to the driver. Every car I have ever tinkered with from Supras to Supra turbos, MR2s, Mustangs, even my Explorer, had modified intakes. The only one that it seemed to make a difference on was my modified Supra Turbo in that I could hear the turbo spool down when I let off the throttle quickly.
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      11-28-2005, 01:08 AM   #29
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in any N/A application, intake alone won't make a huge difference that you can feel.
its when the whole exhaustion setup is tuned, then maybe you can feel a difference.
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      11-29-2005, 07:01 PM   #31
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One of the big benefits of the CF is that it won't suffer heat soak like a plastic box would ... so at least there's that. Not sure it's worth $900 though.

I had a couple of Audis and they suffer heat soak real bad, if you've never experienced it ... lets just say it sucks.
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Where can we order a Gruppe M intake?
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Holy Moley - $900 for an intake, $3K for an exhaust (plus inst.) for a few HP, all at high RPMs.

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If I can find an intake and software that would show some serious gains, I would consider them. This is obviously for my 325i.

GruppeM is on my list... A little expensive, but on my list :rocks:
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If I can find an intake and software that would show some serious gains, I would consider them. This is obviously for my 325i.

GruppeM is on my list... A little expensive, but on my list :rocks:
You are not going to find serious gains... As much as I hate to be a buzz kill they call it the ultimate driving machine because they tune the engines to near perfection. You may eek out a few hp here and there but that is really all you can expect from your car, if you wanted to get "serious gains" bmw was not a wise decision for you... I am not by any means saying that you don't have a great car, I am just saying that modding it will not result in anything to wright home about. I personally enjoy modding my cars and plan on modding my e90 and the gruppeM is on my list as well but I know better than to get my hopes up with any kind of crazy power gains.
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look into supercharger or turbo if you want serious gains.

none of these bolt-on mods will give "serious" gains.
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look into supercharger or turbo if you want serious gains.

none of these bolt-on mods will give "serious" gains.
There are a handfull of us that do understand the reason of bolt on mods. To me, it is to get more engine sound out of it and to some extent, better acceleration. Personally, i know i wont get gains and i could care less. With the power that my e90 puts out, it is suffice to make me smile.
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Pics of the E90 GruppeM intake system. Sure some nice looking CF there
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There are a handfull of us that do understand the reason of bolt on mods. To me, it is to get more engine sound out of it and to some extent, better acceleration. Personally, i know i wont get gains and i could care less. With the power that my e90 puts out, it is suffice to make me smile.
Im not against you, and I agree.

As soon as a reasonably priced intake system comes out for E90, I am in 100%.
Not for almost a grand though. for a filter and bunch of carbon fiber pieces? I'll go get myself a custom made carbon fiber pieces and a ebay filter for $300 and get same look and performance out of it. Its just not worth it in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong. Most bolt-ons are for 10% power gain, 90% "sound-gain-that-makes-your-car-sounds-like-it-gained-200hp" gain. And you know what, I don't care, if it sounds good, I'll get it.

I doubt you'll feel the difference in acceleration though from bolt-ons.
Few wheel horsepower can't be felt, its just our fake butt-dyno.

After years of being involved in automotive tuning scene however, I learned one thing.
Save the money, get something $$$$ and big. Because you'll get what you paid for.
Pay $$$ for small things, ends up $$$$.
I always ended up spending $5000 or more on bolt-ons in the past. Later down the road, I realize, with that money I could've gotten a nice turbo kit setup, that'll smoke the crap out of my current car with bunch of bolt-ons that gave me 20whp.

People spend $1500 for cat-back exhaust, $1000 for intake, $2000 for headers, $500 for aftermarket cat, $1000+ for ecu tuning, etc. And they don't realize, with all that money, they could've hit 60+whp gain with a nice forced induction setup. But no, they are only getting probably 20whp with all that bolt-on crap and similar amount of money spent(aka. wasted).

But who am I to talk about such things?
I am the dumb and dumber who just dropped a grand on a front lip and eyelids.
And this is exactly why I don't blame anyone for heading towards wrong tuning direction. I do it all the times.
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what about the sound, and does this void your warranty.
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Hmm..glad to see they use a larger filter than kits for other BMWs; that little mini-cone wasnt large enough for most BMW needs.
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I'm still trying to figure out why you would waste so much money on CF. It's certainly not for the performance of the material in this situation. I guess if the looks are worth about $600-700. I bet the whole thing could be done with Injection molded ABS plastic in place of the CF for $200 or less.
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