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01-07-2013, 08:10 PM | #45 | |
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But, a large portion of the the post was bashing and blatantly saying his setup is superior to any other option available. At 3 times the price it better be. If the claim is valid and true then comparison logs of multiple pump setups of fuel pressure will prove it It is a completely reasonable for consumers to expect real unbiased data to backup any claims. The reason he doesn't provide any is because he doesn't have to. It seems whatever he says is simply taken as fact. |
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01-07-2013, 08:37 PM | #46 |
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I'd also like to see a datalog. Not for any particular reason or to prove/disprove anything, i just like to see what people are doing and how it's working.
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01-07-2013, 09:03 PM | #47 | |
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Which parts of his posts bother you? Where does he say that his option is more superior to any other option? Could you quote specific parts? I don't see any bashing, either. What do you consider to be bashing? What data do you specifically want to see that you would deem to be satisfactory? When do you want this data? These kinds of requirements might clear things up and make for a much easier thread for everyone. |
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01-07-2013, 09:45 PM | #48 | |
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01-07-2013, 10:11 PM | #49 | |
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01-08-2013, 12:52 AM | #50 |
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Wow this thread went to shit. For those still in question as to why FFTEC's pump solution works, do everyone a favor and .... Lot's of platforms are using parallel or series pumps to overcome fulling demands. Just so happens series on this platform works the best and doesn't require any special connections or adapters that could cause back pressure issues like other solutions we have seen recently.
Just because you have this preconceived notion about Shiv and Vishnu doesn't mean that everything they market turns out to be crap just because you want it to be. So the situation is simple, at peak demand a single or stock pump can't maintain the Flow Rat required for 100% e85 or high output upgraded turbos. The diagram tells the story. So, for those who still don't believe, don't buy it. Me and everyone else who understands this technology could give a flying F'k less if you don't agree. I'm personally running booster and have been sense November. I haven't had any issues running 100% e85 like I had prior. So as far as I'm concerned this solution it fixed my issues. |
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01-08-2013, 01:13 AM | #51 | |
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I'm sure there are many good solutions out there, as well! In fact, I've been eyeing RB turbos for quite some time. I like the torque and quick spool up of the smaller turbos, and having, generally, the same components afterwards. To each their own! The big singles are probably too rich for my blood. However, I do not anticipate having a turbo upgrade for many years. Pump and clutch? Heck yeah. Last edited by Ferruccio; 01-08-2013 at 03:39 AM.. |
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01-08-2013, 03:38 AM | #52 |
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What about, if you think the info is not clear and so you do not buy it?
If Vishnu then thinks that they do not sell enough because of the lack of info, they migth choose to provide more info to increase their sales. ABC of freemarket. You do not need to buy this product.... as far as I understood :-)
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01-08-2013, 08:26 AM | #53 |
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Oh come one, really? He has said this a dozen or more times in multiple thread. His original post in this thread has a few passive aggressive comments as well.
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01-08-2013, 11:48 AM | #56 | |
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Neither of which are statements of vast superiority, as you claimed. Let's keep things in the realm of reality without exaggerating what people have said. While I understand that you might have issues with the responses themselves, inflating your claims just causes unnecessary tension. Last edited by Ferruccio; 01-08-2013 at 11:55 AM.. |
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01-08-2013, 11:52 AM | #57 |
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All this depends on the application. If we are talking about the biggest Vishnu single with a lot of boost needing a lot of fuel, then two pumps should push more fuel than one. However, the one pump upgrade is not really flawed for those who don't need a huge increase in the flow.
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01-08-2013, 12:00 PM | #58 | |
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I also conceed these are paid advertisments and they can structure them however they'd like. My point was the mannor in which they have advertised this fuel solution, heavy on the rhetoric, light on the data, is hurting their credability. To put it another way somewhere along the line I stopped looking to Vishnu and FFTEC as a technical resource who happen to represent products and started looking to them as salespeople who happen to sometimes offer technical insight. |
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01-08-2013, 12:17 PM | #59 | |
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01-08-2013, 12:31 PM | #60 | ||
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Furthermore, where is your first quote from? I do not see your first quote in this thread at all. How is it relevant to what is going on in this thread? I, myself, am now guilty of assumptions, as I had assumed that you were actually quoting something Shiv said in this thread. Quote:
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01-08-2013, 01:09 PM | #61 | |
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The quotes are from a fuel pump discussion thread on this forum. If you search the text of his quote in this section you can locate the thread. My observations of the marketing approach come from reviewing multiple threads. This specific thread appears to be Vishnu's "response" to some other related thread. I think you are being a bit naive to assume each thread is completely independent and that statements made in one thread are invalid in another related thread. As to why I am posting in this thread. Why are you posting in this thread? Is a good back story a prerequisite to state your opinion on the Internet? I am interested in N54 fuel system upgrades and came here looking for hard data. Instead I found hard rhetoric and propaganda and now I'm voicing my displeasure over it. |
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01-08-2013, 01:52 PM | #63 | |
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I'm on the fence about the fuel upgrade as well so it seems we are in the same boat. Did you know that the only other fuel upgrades out are inherently flawed, won't work, and that this solution flows 25% more than they do anyway? |
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01-08-2013, 02:07 PM | #64 | |
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01-08-2013, 02:30 PM | #65 | |
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If your goal is finding info on N54 fuel system upgrades, then you need to get your hands dirty if you cannot trust the information and options supplied. I mentioned in this thread previously and i'll say it again, if it is such a conspiracy about the information supplied, dont buy it. |
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