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      06-11-2012, 03:21 PM   #23
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Where are those controles, how can I fit them into mirrors, and do I have to change mirorr to get this if the controler is inside. This is getting realy anoying I can not find anything on it, like nobody know or dont want to tell how to install this option what hardware and what codin to do to get it right?!...
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      06-14-2012, 06:29 AM   #24
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Use revtor's profile or any profile with MAN file manipulation enabled. Read out your frm module. Search for SPIEGEL_BORDSTEIN_AUTOM in your fsw_psw.trc file and set to aktiv. Save it as fsw_psw.man. The code the frm module by running sg_codigen job.

The controller hardware can be accessed by removing the painted mirror cover. If the mirror does not have the folding option, you can remove the controller after removing the entire mirror assembly and the connectors on the glass. Else you have to cut the wires since the folding mirror motor is wired to the controller and can't be removed without "destroying" the mirror

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      06-14-2012, 12:44 PM   #25
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Ok I did the coding before few weeks and it did not word so you are sugesting that I need to buy a mirror with that option. Do you happend to have a part number for that kind of mirror, so I can search it on internet.

Thank you in forwards.
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      06-14-2012, 11:41 PM   #26
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you do not have folding mirrors. do you have memory seats? if you do not have memory seats, chances that your mirrors are not operated over the LIN bus.

the side mirrors comes in 2 types. 1 for LIN bus which uses 3 pins on the mirrors and another type which comes with 5 pins on the mirrors.if i'm not wrong, the tilt may not work for the ones with 5 pins as it doesn't use the LIN bus.

so if you want to get it to work, then you'll need a new set of mirrors as well as additional wiring for the passenger side mirror. after that you'll need to do the coding as well.

if you're planning to buy the mirrors online, search for those which has 3 pins connectors. keep in mind that LHD and RHD cars mirrors are not interchangable as the angles of the mirrors base is different.

btw, this is how the mirror controller look like. it's the black plastic piece with the barcode sticker.

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      06-15-2012, 04:53 PM   #27
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I dont have memory seats, and folding mirrors. I will start seatching for mirror, I have to buy only one side(pasesnger)?
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      06-16-2012, 02:29 AM   #28
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I dont have memory seats, and folding mirrors. I will start seatching for mirror, I have to buy only one side(pasesnger)?
i would suggest you remove your mirrors to take a look at it first before buying the new mirrors. check to see if there's 3 or 5 pins on it. if there's only 3 pins then you may not need to buy new mirrors at all if your controller supports the feature. remove the mirror cover and check the part number of the controller on realoem.com. if the part number says it's for LIN bus then you do not need new mirrors.

you'll need to buy a pair of mirrors. E90 pre LCI mirrors are quite common on ebay.uk if you have a RHD car. since you're replacing your mirrors, might as well buy a set of folding mirrors.

for the steps on coding and hardware install, there is a DIY guide on bmw coding dot com forum for E88 power folding mirror retrofit. since E8x and E9x are similiar, you should be able to use that guide as well.
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      12-18-2012, 09:42 PM   #29
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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...rrors.jpg.jpeg

My mirrors are electric, just dont fold, option does not work on electric mirrors only? like the left side in photot 318D LCI 2009

I added value to FAHRWEG_BORDSTEIN_AUTOM (5A) but nothing
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      12-20-2012, 08:58 PM   #30
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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...rrors.jpg.jpeg

My mirrors are electric, just dont fold, option does not work on electric mirrors only? like the left side in photot 318D LCI 2009

I added value to FAHRWEG_BORDSTEIN_AUTOM (5A) but nothing
do you have full electric seats with memory? if not, then you may not have mirrors that run off the LIN bus and coding will never work.

my car came with non-folding mirrors but i have full electric seats with memory and the mirror tilt works.
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      01-09-2013, 06:19 PM   #31
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do you have full electric seats with memory? if not, then you may not have mirrors that run off the LIN bus and coding will never work.

my car came with non-folding mirrors but i have full electric seats with memory and the mirror tilt works.
hey i dont have electric seats or folding mirrors, but i read on another post saying if i have 3 pins on the mirror that it might be on the lin bus? i seem to have a 3 pin connector...so if i have lin bus type mirrors, can i get it coded to tilt on reverse?

I'm comfortable with coding and just dont know which options to code in the FRM or whatever module? any help much appreciated, thanks.
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      01-10-2013, 09:20 AM   #32
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You add $430 and $313 to your VO and then code it into the Cas and NFRM module and then you should be good
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      01-10-2013, 10:31 AM   #33
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You add $430 and $313 to your VO and then code it into the Cas and NFRM module and then you should be good
Thanks and that should be ok if i have:

1. lin bus type mirrors
2. electric mirrors
3. but NO folding mirrors
4. and no memory seats

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      01-10-2013, 11:01 AM   #34
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You would need electric seats I believe to get it working for tilt and folding mirrors...
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      01-27-2013, 08:07 PM   #35
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I have mirrors with 3-pin!

What can I change to work?

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You add $430 and $313 to your VO and then code it into the Cas and NFRM module and then you should be good
Does not break anything If I add $430 and $313 to VO and I did not have power seats and folding mirrors ?

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      02-01-2013, 03:39 AM   #36
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I have mirrors with 3-pin!

What can I change to work?



Does not break anything If I add $430 and $313 to VO and I did not have power seats and folding mirrors ?

Foto with mirror ...
the 3 pin is referring to the car side and not mirror side.
your mirror is not using the LIN bus. compare your photo against mine and you will see yours is missing the black controller module for the mirror.

$430 and $313 are for folding mirrors. nothing to do with tilt on reverse at all.
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      02-01-2013, 09:13 AM   #37
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Ok, good to know!

If you put a mirror with 3 pins is gonna work fold-in outside mirror and tilt in reverse? without full electric seats with memory..
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try changing this line in your nfrm or frm if its aktiv change it to nicht_aktiv. This is only for the passanger side to tilt down when the switch is to the driver side.
GETRIEBE_HANDSCHALTER
nicht_aktiv

how did you come up with this?

'Getriebe' is translated as 'Transmission' in this context and 'Handschalter' refers to 'manual switching', i.e. this setting tells the FRM if the car has an MT or AUTO and shouldn't have anything to do with the curbside mirror tilting.
To see these terms in use, check out this German blog post discussing the differences between automatic and manual gearboxes.

I'm fluent in German and thought I'd give my $.02 on this.
I'm still curious to hear why this should have to do with the mirrors.
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Ok, good to know!

If you put a mirror with 3 pins is gonna work fold-in outside mirror and tilt in reverse? without full electric seats with memory..
can't confirm if the tilt will work. i've read of people doing folding mirrors retrofit from non-LIN bus mirrors but it requires some rewiring since you do not have the correct LIN bus wiring in the first place.
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how did you come up with this?

'Getriebe' is translated as 'Transmission' in this context and 'Handschalter' refers to 'manual switching', i.e. this setting tells the FRM if the car has an MT or AUTO and shouldn't have anything to do with the curbside mirror tilting.
To see these terms in use, check out this German blog post discussing the differences between automatic and manual gearboxes.

I'm fluent in German and thought I'd give my $.02 on this.
I'm still curious to hear why this should have to do with the mirrors.
think the correct option item should be SPIEGEL_BORDSTEIN_AUTOM
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      04-22-2013, 06:44 AM   #41
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OK. is there any easy way (via ncsexpert ecu coding) to tilt down the passanger mirror. I mean I have european car with steering wheel on left and I want to tilt down right mirror down, when set reverse on manual transmisison.

I've had e90 with electric seats, but not with memory and it worked. But now i have e92 with electric seats, but it doesnt work. So i believe have to somehow code it.

thanks
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      04-22-2013, 10:17 AM   #42
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try changing this line in your nfrm or frm if its aktiv change it to nicht_aktiv. This is only for the passanger side to tilt down when the switch is to the driver side.
GETRIEBE_HANDSCHALTER
nicht_aktiv

how did you come up with this?

'Getriebe' is translated as 'Transmission' in this context and 'Handschalter' refers to 'manual switching', i.e. this setting tells the FRM if the car has an MT or AUTO and shouldn't have anything to do with the curbside mirror tilting.
To see these terms in use, check out this German blog post discussing the differences between automatic and manual gearboxes.

I'm fluent in German and thought I'd give my $.02 on this.
I'm still curious to hear why this should have to do with the mirrors.
my bad I figured it was wrong after. I was changing bunch of line and thought that was it.
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