HELP -car wont start after messing about with inpa - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

mistryn · 01-14-2013, 01:07 PM

HELP please stupid of me I should not have messed about with inpa but I was just having a look at the IBS register battery and now my car wont start - it cranks over but wont start. I do not know what I have done and not going to mess with this after this

can anyone help me please have I messed something up big style?
can I go back and reset please - pannicking now

seanblee · 01-14-2013, 02:34 PM

Most likely you've just flattened the battery by playing too long. Stick it on charge for a few hours and try again...

makkan00 · 01-14-2013, 02:37 PM

As you told me that error is 4A63....
Solution:
Re-align the DDE and EWS

How you do it?

1- Launch inpa
2- Select the engine
3- Choose the model of the engine (in your case

DDE6 = 318d, 320d, 325d, 330d, 335d ( 03/2005 - 09/2007 )
DDE7 = 318d, 320d, 325d, 330d, 335d ( 09/2007 - )

4- Select option: activate (usually F5 but check in your inpa)
5- Select option: EWS
6- Select option: reset ----> in progress ----> click ok
7- Bak to the main menu, ie, back, back, back, and close the INPA
8- Open the inpa and check the errors. That errors should have gone by now.
9- Turn the ignition off, remove the obd connector and start your car.

Please share the results.

mistryn · 01-14-2013, 02:37 PM

I was only on for 5 mins max do you think it would have flatten battery that quick?

mistryn · 01-14-2013, 02:45 PM

Sam a big massive thank you it worked - note to self I am not going to mess with inpa just read and reset codes from now on

phil200tdi · 01-14-2013, 03:10 PM

Awesome...

xenon · 01-15-2013, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistryn

I was only on for 5 mins max do you think it would have flatten battery that quick?

If it had then then engine wouldn't turn over....

Hotcoupe · 01-15-2013, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makkan00

As you told me that error is 4A63....
Solution:
Re-align the DDE and EWS

How you do it?

1- Launch inpa
2- Select the engine
3- Choose the model of the engine (in your case

DDE6 = 318d, 320d, 325d, 330d, 335d ( 03/2005 - 09/2007 )
DDE7 = 318d, 320d, 325d, 330d, 335d ( 09/2007 - )

4- Select option: activate (usually F5 but check in your inpa)
5- Select option: EWS
6- Select option: reset ----> in progress ----> click ok
7- Bak to the main menu, ie, back, back, back, and close the INPA
8- Open the inpa and check the errors. That errors should have gone by now.
9- Turn the ignition off, remove the obd connector and start your car.

Please share the results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistryn

Sam a big massive thank you it worked - note to self I am not going to mess with inpa just read and reset codes from now on

Top work there from the coding guru,well done Makka

MEGA · 01-15-2013, 03:56 AM

Good to have some useful members about!!! Well done Mak!

rich1068 · 01-15-2013, 04:06 AM

Indeed. It's a shame he's so far from me. There are one or two things I'd like him to look at when I get the F30.

Cyprio · 01-15-2013, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEGA

Good to have some useful members about!!! Well done Mak!

Yup, Makka's THE man - well done Sam!

AWBimmer · 01-15-2013, 05:41 AM

Go Mr. Mak!!

Richardlkay · 01-15-2013, 06:38 AM

Well saved Mak!

makkan00 · 01-15-2013, 07:09 AM

Thanks guys for appreciation.

ctuna · 01-15-2013, 01:25 PM

What is DDE and EWS and why do they need reset
I imagine its something to do with Engine management?
And how did it get into they misaligned state as in what were you
doing to cause it not to start in the first place. Just trying to avoid this
I have used inpa and DIS57 and not permanently messed stuff up
so far but I did get some temporary errors doing resets to adaptation
values.

seanblee · 01-15-2013, 01:44 PM

EWS is the immobiliser system and DDE is the engine management system. Afraid I can't answer how they get out of sync just by doing an IBS battery registration...

ctuna · 01-15-2013, 02:31 PM

Someone really knows there stuff.

alzieboy · 01-15-2013, 02:38 PM

Makkan, top man who really knows his stuff

mistryn · 01-15-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

What is DDE and EWS and why do they need reset
I imagine its something to do with Engine management?
And how did it get into they misaligned state as in what were you
doing to cause it not to start in the first place. Just trying to avoid this
I have used inpa and DIS57 and not permanently messed stuff up
so far but I did get some temporary errors doing resets to adaptation
values.

I have no idea how I managed to do this, I was in the section where it said along the lines of IBS battery reigster, pressed the F key to go into it and must have pressed another key to reigsiter it - a window box came up and it being in german language I did not know what it meant so cleicked on the x in the corner.

I found another version of inpa online and was trying that as it was giving me further opitions to go into rather than the software I bought. As I was looking to replace the battery in the coming month I thought let me have a look at the steps within inpa and what options it gives me but i must have selected an option which i was not meant to

IanS100 · 01-15-2013, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistryn

I have no idea how I managed to do this, I was in the section where it said along the lines of IBS battery reigster, pressed the F key to go into it and must have pressed another key to reigsiter it - a window box came up and it being in german language I did not know what it meant so cleicked on the x in the corner.

I found another version of inpa online and was trying that as it was giving me further opitions to go into rather than the software I bought. As I was looking to replace the battery in the coming month I thought let me have a look at the steps within inpa and what options it gives me but i must have selected an option which i was not meant to

I hope you've had time to change your trousers

Well done Makkan

mistryn · 01-15-2013, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanS100

I hope you've had time to change your trousers

Many times

Once again many thanks Mak

makkan00 · 01-15-2013, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

What is DDE and EWS and why do they need reset
I imagine its something to do with Engine management?

ctuna, see the partial response down below by seanblee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanblee

EWS is the immobiliser system and DDE is the engine management system. Afraid I can't answer how they get out of sync just by doing an IBS battery registration...

Basically, the immobiliser lost its settings and it did not allow the engine to start.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistryn

I have no idea how I managed to do this, I was in the section where it said along the lines of IBS battery reigster, pressed the F key to go into it and must have pressed another key to reigsiter it - a window box came up and it being in german language I did not know what it meant so cleicked on the x in the corner.

Why it happened?
Many reasons mate, and it can happen randomly by playing with DME. Some says that it can happen when you reset the battery / play with the immobiliser. In your case, reseting IBS may have triggered it.

Worst part is that, I have seen a case where one of the dealer suggested the client to change the immobiliser and keys. And you can guess the rest of the story. Car was out of the warranty and poor fellow had to bend over.... and paid the bill in the excess of ....

Well, I'll leave it to you guys to guess the amount of that bill.

Equally, I have heard of another dealer who charged only 1 hour labour charges to reset this.

I'm glad that it helped mistryn and thanks to all of you for the appreciation

01-14-2013, 01:07 PM	#1
mistryn Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW 335D Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mids Posts: 1,618 iTrader: (7)	HELP -car wont start after messing about with inpa HELP please stupid of me I should not have messed about with inpa but I was just having a look at the IBS register battery and now my car wont start - it cranks over but wont start. I do not know what I have done and not going to mess with this after this can anyone help me please have I messed something up big style? can I go back and reset please - pannicking now
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01-14-2013, 02:34 PM	#2
seanblee Captain Drives: E92 335i SE Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Enfield, UK Posts: 658 iTrader: (1)	Most likely you've just flattened the battery by playing too long. Stick it on charge for a few hours and try again... __________________ 2007 E92 335i SE auto \| Monaco Blue \| Cream Beige \| Quaife LSD \| Birds B3 ARBs \| Evolve Stage 1 \| CIC retrofit

01-14-2013, 02:37 PM	#3
makkan00 Brigadier General Drives: E90 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: London Posts: 3,936 iTrader: (15)	As you told me that error is 4A63.... Solution: Re-align the DDE and EWS How you do it? 1- Launch inpa 2- Select the engine 3- Choose the model of the engine (in your case DDE6 = 318d, 320d, 325d, 330d, 335d ( 03/2005 - 09/2007 ) DDE7 = 318d, 320d, 325d, 330d, 335d ( 09/2007 - ) 4- Select option: activate (usually F5 but check in your inpa) 5- Select option: EWS 6- Select option: reset ----> in progress ----> click ok 7- Bak to the main menu, ie, back, back, back, and close the INPA 8- Open the inpa and check the errors. That errors should have gone by now. 9- Turn the ignition off, remove the obd connector and start your car. Please share the results. __________________ AluFelgens, LCI conversion, Eibach Sportsline, CF Interior Trims, Twin exhaust, Sports + Memory seats retrofit ICE: P99RS - Focal 100KRS II - SWS-8s - JL600/6 - JL300/2 - JL1000/1 - JL 12W7 IB My Audio build.

01-14-2013, 03:10 PM	#6
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01-15-2013, 03:56 AM	#9
MEGA Dieseasal Drives: LCI E92 335d M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Harrow, London Posts: 6,367 iTrader: (2)	Good to have some useful members about!!! Well done Mak! __________________ Previously: 2003 Peugeot 206 1.6 8v \| 2006 E90 320d M-Sport, 19" BBS CH, Full Ice-cold JL audio install, August 2010 Total BMW 6 page feature car. \| 2003 Nissan 350Z GT Coupe 286BHP Now:2010 E92 LCI 335d M-Sport

01-14-2013, 02:45 PM	#5
mistryn Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW 335D Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mids Posts: 1,618 iTrader: (7)	Sam a big massive thank you it worked - note to self I am not going to mess with inpa just read and reset codes from now on

01-15-2013, 04:06 AM	#10
rich1068 Colonel Drives: F30 330d M Sport Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2,806 iTrader: (0)	Indeed. It's a shame he's so far from me. There are one or two things I'd like him to look at when I get the F30.

01-15-2013, 05:41 AM	#12
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01-15-2013, 06:38 AM	#13
Richardlkay Private First Class Drives: E90 320d M Sport Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chorley, Lancashire Posts: 105 iTrader: (0)	Well saved Mak! __________________ Rick - E90 320d M Sport\|Sparkling Graphite\|Grey Dakota Leather\|Bluetooth\|iPod/USB Connectivity\|18" M Sport Alloys\|Sun Protection glass

01-15-2013, 07:09 AM	#14
makkan00 Brigadier General Drives: E90 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: London Posts: 3,936 iTrader: (15)	Thanks guys for appreciation. __________________ AluFelgens, LCI conversion, Eibach Sportsline, CF Interior Trims, Twin exhaust, Sports + Memory seats retrofit ICE: P99RS - Focal 100KRS II - SWS-8s - JL600/6 - JL300/2 - JL1000/1 - JL 12W7 IB My Audio build.

01-15-2013, 01:25 PM	#15
ctuna Colonel Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca Posts: 2,745 iTrader: (0)	What is DDE and EWS and why do they need reset? What is DDE and EWS and why do they need reset I imagine its something to do with Engine management? And how did it get into they misaligned state as in what were you doing to cause it not to start in the first place. Just trying to avoid this I have used inpa and DIS57 and not permanently messed stuff up so far but I did get some temporary errors doing resets to adaptation values.

01-15-2013, 01:44 PM	#16
seanblee Captain Drives: E92 335i SE Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Enfield, UK Posts: 658 iTrader: (1)	EWS is the immobiliser system and DDE is the engine management system. Afraid I can't answer how they get out of sync just by doing an IBS battery registration... __________________ 2007 E92 335i SE auto \| Monaco Blue \| Cream Beige \| Quaife LSD \| Birds B3 ARBs \| Evolve Stage 1 \| CIC retrofit

01-15-2013, 02:31 PM	#17
ctuna Colonel Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca Posts: 2,745 iTrader: (0)	kudos Someone really knows there stuff.

01-15-2013, 02:38 PM	#18
alzieboy Second Lieutenant Drives: 318d LCI exclusive edition Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Norfolk Posts: 238 iTrader: (0)	Makkan, top man who really knows his stuff

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