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      01-15-2013, 01:26 AM   #1
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Headlights pointing WAY up?

Hi.
I have tried to search this several ways, but to no avail. I have Xenon's in an E91. The non-xenon light, aka the DRL, aka the flashing high-beam, is pointing up at about 30 degrees. I was flicking them in heavy fog the other night to compare visibility, and those "high beams" seem to point nearly straight up, from the driver's perspective (what the hell do you call them, anyway?! The Xenon's are your Low beams / Main Beams / High Beams... the other ones are... what? DRL's and... the OTHER high-beam?! d'oh. That's what makes it hard to search for an answer!)

Anyway - I attached a pic (but not in the fog unfortunately). I know where the Xenon/Main beam adjusting bolts are - those are perfectly adjusted and have no problems. The "other" high-beam/DRL's are ridiculously high - both of them. Seems odd.

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      01-15-2013, 03:34 AM   #2
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I'm almost 100% sure you aren't suppose to use high beams in thick fog. If it is zero visibility the beams are not going to cut through the fog and allow you to see further. Your high beams would also blind the oncoming traffic. In fog situations you use the fog lights to allow you to see the peripherals better and for oncoming traffic to see you without blinding them.
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I'm almost 100% sure you aren't suppose to use high beams in thick fog. If it is zero visibility the beams are not going to cut through the fog and allow you to see further. Your high beams would also blind the oncoming traffic. In fog situations you use the fog lights to allow you to see the peripherals better and for oncoming traffic to see you without blinding them.
You are correct - you absolutely should NOT be using high beams in fog as your driving lights. In fact, using WHITE lights of any sort will produce more "blinding" glare than the preferred yellow, which my DRL's and fogs are.


I was "using" the fog as a display screen of sorts to visualize and evaluate the projection angles and beam width of my various lights and discovered the DRL high-beam was completely skewed. I probably could have worded that better in the question.
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idk about yours but mine are turning lights. they reflect at a 90 degree angle to show the curbs while turning and when my turn signals are on. however some mistake them as highbeams as im turning and its very fustrating!
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The bulb got dislodged from its socket.
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The bulb got dislodged from its socket.
I have seen this before...if the bulb has been replaced recently, or not, and it is not seated properly in its housing, it will not be pointing in the right direction. That is an easy fix....My wifes Passat takes a mirror and a flashlight held at just the right angle to even see the bulb which has to be rotated just right to fully seat into its housing...what a pain!...Her headlights were all askew after I put new ones in and it took a while to figure it out....

But if yours have never been replaced, and they are seated properly...it could have been a trick of the light so to speak. I tried my high beams in the fog the other night, and it looked like they were pointed in all different directions...I went back to low beams with the fog lights on and it was much better.

Yes, yellow fogs are the way to go!


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I have seen this before...if the bulb has been replaced recently, or not, and it is not seated properly in its housing, it will not be pointing in the right direction. ...
arg. I was afraid of that - they are both pointing up at a ridiculous angle (equally ridiculous, mind you), but yes, unfortunately... I just replaced them recently - and on a Xenon E9x... WHAT A MONSTROUS PAIN IN THE POOPER they are to service!!

Doesn't surprise me I may not have gotten them in properly. They look/felt like they were in, but it is ENTIRELY possible they are not, or have come slightly dislodged. Last time it took me over 3 hours to change them. Let's see if I best my personal time... ack.


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idk about yours but mine are turning lights. they reflect at a 90 degree angle to show the curbs while turning and when my turn signals are on. however some mistake them as highbeams as im turning and its very fustrating!
Frustrations aside... that's a very cool feature. I had heard them called "cornering lights" but never knew what their behaviour might be. Sounds handy!

As it is - even when they are working - those lights DO NOTHING. They are DRL's (normally - I coded that to be my AE's) or flash-to-pass highbeams. That's it. So you could go your entire driving career never using them, if you don't high-beam-flash people. Sort of dumb. Cornering lights - those sound like fun.
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Frustrations aside... that's a very cool feature. I had heard them called "cornering lights" but never knew what their behaviour might be. Sounds handy!

As it is - even when they are working - those lights DO NOTHING. They are DRL's (normally - I coded that to be my AE's) or flash-to-pass highbeams. That's it. So you could go your entire driving career never using them, if you don't high-beam-flash people. Sort of dumb. Cornering lights - those sound like fun.
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idk about yours but mine are turning lights. they reflect at a 90 degree angle to show the curbs while turning and when my turn signals are on. however some mistake them as highbeams as im turning and its very fustrating!
Pre LCI sedans used them as DRLs and flash to pass. LCI sedans 2009+ use them as cornering lights. However, cornering lights have the beam sweeping to the sides, so they definitely do not work or look like high beams.
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OP, check out this thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6704

They talk about headlights angles. Hope this helps...
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OP, check out this thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6704

They talk about headlights angles. Hope this helps...
Hi iSerge - thanks for that, I did originally stumble on that, but got bored after 2 or 3 pages of "Wow! Thanks! I never knew that!" ha.

So I just read through all 13 pages - they DO mention halogens in a few spots including a second post just for halogens, but in all cases they are referring to the entire light housing, not the individual bulbs.

Having said that... if there are no adjustments for the individual bulb housings, then it stands to reason something is wrong with my bulbs, not the aiming. At least, that's the theory I'm going with for now!

It's too cold and too dark to check it tonight, but next chance I get I'm going to poke around and see what I can see, maybe the bulbs popped out or the 3 hours of screwing around trying to replace the bulbs fubar'd something.

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