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      01-18-2013, 12:08 PM   #397
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15 years are showing in his legs.
Agreed. Issue is after 15 yrs everyone still expects him to be great like in his prime. Ask yourself this, Kobe today is still better than most starters for all other teams (minus the superstars) or not? If not then bench him and let him play Derek Fisher minutes. I say he is still better than most even at his non elite ability.
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Agreed. Issue is after 15 yrs everyone still expects him to be great like in his prime. Ask yourself this, Kobe today is still better than most starters for all other teams (minus the superstars) or not? If not then bench him and let him play Derek Fisher minutes. I say he is still better than most even at his non elite ability.
Agreed kobe is still good, just like MJ came back and played at 41 averaged 20 points better then most.
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Lots of good kids coming to the draft. Lottery is not all that bad if they aren't going to win it all, which they are not.
Thought they gave their lottery picks to the Suns for Nash
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Thought they gave their lottery picks to the Suns for Nash
That would suck.
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Agreed. Issue is after 15 yrs everyone still expects him to be great like in his prime. Ask yourself this, Kobe today is still better than most starters for all other teams (minus the superstars) or not? If not then bench him and let him play Derek Fisher minutes. I say he is still better than most even at his non elite ability.
Kobe has lost athleticism, but is arguably better than before. They do need to keep his minutes down, but 32 or so would be fine. Taking him out at the end of the 1st and keeping him out for the first part of the 4th would probably be the norm, but the lakers typically struggle when he's not out there.
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Just looking at the last couple possessions....after dwight missed those two free throws, I don't understand why Nash gave him the ball in the next possession in that high post. He wasn't going to be aggressive knowing that he would be fouled. Poor choice by nash which led to a poor shot.

With the risk of sounding like a kobe nut hugger, he was hot and should have at least been involved in the play. Iso, p/r with nash, coming off a screen.....anything.
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That would suck.
No first round draft pick this year.







Anyways, we just lost to the Raptors. Dwight ejected on a terrible call. We are awful and this may be the low point of the season. Going to the Bulls/Lakers game tomorrow, I have a feeling it won't be a good one.
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D12 ejected Raptors won
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      01-21-2013, 12:28 AM   #405
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Another humiliating loss to a sub-.500 team... Though the Lakers are sub-.500 themselves.
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That's embarrassing... who the hell do the Raptors have...?
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who the hell do the Raptors have...?
Apparently a team that can beat the Lakers.
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hahaha still can't believe the raptors beat the lakers =P i'm not a raptors fan at all. oh well.. i'm pretty sure tonight's game is much more important.. especially they're my 2 favourite teams...

LAKERS VS BULLS!!!
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Am I the only one that notice Kobe has been playing very not efficient at all? Poor defense/ poor offense. 30 + shots to score 26 points
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He looks like he's tired as crap lately on offensive end... he's guarding quicker point guards as defensive role...
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Disgusted that I paid to see these bums come in there and half ass the game.

This team sucks. It's hard to even call them a team, it's a dysfunctional group of guys that's just out there together. Shit is pathetic.
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Am I the only one that notice Kobe has been playing very not efficient at all? Poor defense/ poor offense. 30 + shots to score 26 points
Haven't watched many games lately, but his lack of efficiency seems to coincide with him guarding faster/smaller guards. It's maybe something he can do from time to time in certain games, or simply for stretches in games, but not all the time.

I think it's the combination of his new defensive role and his minutes the whole year adding up.
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Well he did have good shooting games against cleveland and milwaukee while guarding the likes of irving and jennings, but still too much to ask of him if they're going to keep his minutes up.
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He played through entire 4th quarter... usually he gets rest til around the 8th min mark...
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looks like the time to trade howard ( he won't resign) to get something of value in return.
team is a disgrace. kobe needs to stop shooting like an idiot. if howard is not fed on offense, he won't play defense. there were rumors that howard doesn't like kobe before he joined the lakers, and its clear the case now. plus the players tuned out d'antoni already.
jim buss should rot in hell for destroying the very fiber of the lakers being. clippers roll.
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Say what you want but in my opinion and my opinion only when you have this kind of talent on a team and can't get them going in the right direction you should look at one person, the coach. I am a huge DAntoni fan. I have actually got to meet him and spend a practice with him with the USA basketball team. He is a great guy. I just think his teachings are not suited for this roster. Man I would think about getting rid of him, bite the bullet on the cash and get Phil back for a one year deal.

Again, just my opinion but I would NOT trade Howard or Gasol.
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jim buss should rot in hell for destroying the very fiber of the lakers being.
+1.

Jeannie Buss could do a better job (with Phil at her side), IMO.
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looks like the time to trade howard ( he won't resign) to get something of value in return.
team is a disgrace. kobe needs to stop shooting like an idiot. if howard is not fed on offense, he won't play defense. there were rumors that howard doesn't like kobe before he joined the lakers, and its clear the case now. plus the players tuned out d'antoni already.
jim buss should rot in hell for destroying the very fiber of the lakers being. clippers roll.
I was thinking the same that Kobe and Howard dislike each other. I don't think Howard or Nash could play with Kobe.

BTW, last time I checked the Lakers are 10th seed in the West. Now they are 12th. Wow
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