Security upgrade - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

JancPaul · 01-18-2013, 10:11 AM

Rang BMW today to ask about security and BMW have booked my car in early next week for a security upgrade. Is this the upgrade that has been mentioned to stop e90s being stolen with reprogrammed keys? Nil cost, surprised to here. Can anyone shed light on the security upgrade I have been booked in for. Car E90 330 57 plate.
VMT Paul

Phil325i · 01-18-2013, 10:17 AM

Yes that'll be the one. It disables the window self-opening facility when using the key in the door lock (not the remote).

shortie · 01-18-2013, 10:23 AM

Once you have had the update they can still steal your car. 1 smashed window and less than 60 seconds to programme a key via your OBD port. This is not a solution to the problem so please take other measure

JancPaul · 01-18-2013, 10:44 AM

Thank you for the info, I will look to bolster my security.

shortie · 01-18-2013, 10:45 AM

Have a read of this thread:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=741889

alzieboy · 01-18-2013, 11:06 AM

When i had the security update done before christmas the Tech guy who done it reckons that apart from not being able to drop windows with the hard key, it is now not possible to chip a spare key via the OBD unless an original key is inserted in IGN, only qouting what i was told

makkan00 · 01-18-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by alzieboy

When i had the security update done before christmas the Tech guy who done it reckons that apart from not being able to drop windows with the hard key, it is now not possible to chip a spare key via the OBD unless an original key is inserted in IGN, only qouting what i was told

It is very hard to believe but I have confirmed this from a very reputable person.

And that is why you have not heard any car being stolen on which update was done.

Despite of that, I'd still suggest everyone to move their obd port.

shortie · 01-18-2013, 11:27 AM

Only time will tell i suppose.

Dragon88 · 01-18-2013, 12:56 PM

^Hope that is true.

doughboy · 01-18-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by makkan00

It is very hard to believe but I have confirmed this from a very reputable person.

And that is why you have not heard any car being stolen on which update was done.

Despite of that, I'd still suggest everyone to move their obd port.

So why isn't it mentioned in the update release info?

The update is even named after the comfort closing deletion.

Uk 330d · 01-18-2013, 02:38 PM

I'm sure I read somewhere that BMW were only doing the security upgrade on 2007 onwards cars, is that right or wrong please??

sohlman · 01-18-2013, 02:53 PM

I went to my dealer to enquire for my 2005 E90 and my father 2007 E60 and my dealer said they were only doing X5's and X6's at present, but would get in touch if and when the car was needed for the security recall.

shortie · 01-18-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Uk 330d

I'm sure I read somewhere that BMW were only doing the security upgrade on 2007 onwards cars, is that right or wrong please??

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Originally Posted by sohlman

I went to my dealer to enquire for my 2005 E90 and my father 2007 E60 and my dealer said they were only doing X5's and X6's at present, but would get in touch if and when the car was needed for the security recall.

The update is now available for the E90, but you are right, BMW's research said this affected 2007 models onwards so that is the ones they are offering the free upgrade to.

Uk 330d · 01-18-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shortie

The update is now available for the E90, but you are right, BMW's research said this affected 2007 models onwards so that is the ones they are offering the free upgrade to.

I find it strange they have come to that conclusion, I'd hazard a guess that bmw thinking less pre 2007 cars will be stolen due to lower values, or are bmw saying security was better in 2006 cars??

shortie · 01-18-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Uk 330d

I find it strange they have come to that conclusion, I'd hazard a guess that bmw thinking less pre 2007 cars will be stolen due to lower values, or are bmw saying security was better in 2006 cars??

It all comes down to money!

sohlman · 01-19-2013, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shortie

It all comes down to money!

looks like i am on my own then. Thanks for your responce

JancPaul · 01-19-2013, 05:23 PM

Thank all for the info. I have been told it is not a recall but an upgrade. They got funny with me when I called a recall/fix. Still looking into the extra security though. My car a 57 plate Dec 07.

Dr Dave · 01-20-2013, 03:48 AM

I can't be arsed to go through the whole dealer process so I'm just going to move my port.

jimbowats · 01-20-2013, 04:36 PM

Booked mine in at coopers and they said off the record that it changes the coding of the OBD port so as to stop any extra keys being coded he said "BMW are keen to play down this so as to deflect attention from it and therefore stop any potential thieves from workarounds"

Everyone seems to think it's just a comfort window opening fix and nothing else but do,you really know? BMW coded the port software and it wouldn't take much for an experienced programmer to change one aspect of it.

xPETEZx · 01-20-2013, 05:12 PM

Sounds promising.
Still havent been contacted by my dealer for getting this done. (despite being put on there call back list... <_<)

Even when they call, still going to move my ODB... not worth the risk for 5 min work.

alzieboy · 01-21-2013, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbowats

Booked mine in at coopers and they said off the record that it changes the coding of the OBD port so as to stop any extra keys being coded he said "BMW are keen to play down this so as to deflect attention from it and therefore stop any potential thieves from workarounds"

Everyone seems to think it's just a comfort window opening fix and nothing else but do,you really know? BMW coded the port software and it wouldn't take much for an experienced programmer to change one aspect of it.

Hope thats not Coopers Norwich, after they did mine my Voice Command button on steering wheel no longer worked, that was back in Nov 12, the muppets have still not got a fix for it, they keep blaming BMW Germany say they are awaiting a software fix

gaza01 · 01-21-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Dave

I can't be arsed to go through the whole dealer process so I'm just going to move my port.

I got a letter from my insurance advising me to get it done. Not sure if your insurers did the same but the mere fact they said I should do it to me means that if its not done and your car is stolen, they can use that against you...or at least try

01-18-2013, 10:11 AM	#1
JancPaul New Member Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Security upgrade Rang BMW today to ask about security and BMW have booked my car in early next week for a security upgrade. Is this the upgrade that has been mentioned to stop e90s being stolen with reprogrammed keys? Nil cost, surprised to here. Can anyone shed light on the security upgrade I have been booked in for. Car E90 330 57 plate. VMT Paul
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01-18-2013, 10:17 AM	#2
Phil325i Lieutenant Drives: E92 325i MSport Coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK South East Posts: 519 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 325i Coupe [0.00]	Yes that'll be the one. It disables the window self-opening facility when using the key in the door lock (not the remote). __________________ E92 pre-LCI 325i - Ohlins R&T; H&R spacers; BMS clutch stop; BMS CDV; RE g/box mounts; K&N; Cyba scoops; BMW Perf Exhaust; M3 rear spoiler; LED Angels; BMW Perf black grille; SSDD carbon diffuser; Monster Wrap black roof

01-18-2013, 10:23 AM	#3
shortie Lieutenant Drives: BMW 320i M sport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: West Midlands UK Posts: 558 iTrader: (0)	Once you have had the update they can still steal your car. 1 smashed window and less than 60 seconds to programme a key via your OBD port. This is not a solution to the problem so please take other measure __________________

01-18-2013, 10:45 AM	#5
shortie Lieutenant Drives: BMW 320i M sport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: West Midlands UK Posts: 558 iTrader: (0)	Have a read of this thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=741889 __________________

01-18-2013, 11:27 AM	#8
shortie Lieutenant Drives: BMW 320i M sport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: West Midlands UK Posts: 558 iTrader: (0)	Only time will tell i suppose. __________________

01-18-2013, 10:44 AM	#4
JancPaul New Member Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Thank you for the info, I will look to bolster my security.

01-18-2013, 11:06 AM	#6
alzieboy Second Lieutenant Drives: 318d LCI exclusive edition Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Norfolk Posts: 235 iTrader: (0)	When i had the security update done before christmas the Tech guy who done it reckons that apart from not being able to drop windows with the hard key, it is now not possible to chip a spare key via the OBD unless an original key is inserted in IGN, only qouting what i was told

01-18-2013, 12:56 PM	#9
Dragon88 Private First Class Drives: BMW E92 320i M-Sport 2007 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: West London Posts: 135 iTrader: (0)	^Hope that is true.

01-18-2013, 02:38 PM	#11
Uk 330d Second Lieutenant Drives: E90 330d m sport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 282 iTrader: (1)	I'm sure I read somewhere that BMW were only doing the security upgrade on 2007 onwards cars, is that right or wrong please??

01-18-2013, 02:53 PM	#12
sohlman Second Lieutenant Drives: E90 330iSE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Surrey Posts: 204 iTrader: (0)	I went to my dealer to enquire for my 2005 E90 and my father 2007 E60 and my dealer said they were only doing X5's and X6's at present, but would get in touch if and when the car was needed for the security recall. __________________ E90 330i SE Auto Graphite Grey Metalic

01-19-2013, 05:23 PM	#17
JancPaul New Member Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Thank all for the info. I have been told it is not a recall but an upgrade. They got funny with me when I called a recall/fix. Still looking into the extra security though. My car a 57 plate Dec 07.

01-20-2013, 03:48 AM	#18
Dr Dave Zummerzet Zyder Drinker! Drives: '06 330D Le Mans Blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somerset Posts: 5,481 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 330d M Sport [0.00]	I can't be arsed to go through the whole dealer process so I'm just going to move my port.

01-20-2013, 04:36 PM	#19
jimbowats New Member Drives: 2011 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: uk Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	Booked mine in at coopers and they said off the record that it changes the coding of the OBD port so as to stop any extra keys being coded he said "BMW are keen to play down this so as to deflect attention from it and therefore stop any potential thieves from workarounds" Everyone seems to think it's just a comfort window opening fix and nothing else but do,you really know? BMW coded the port software and it wouldn't take much for an experienced programmer to change one aspect of it.

01-20-2013, 05:12 PM	#20
xPETEZx First Lieutenant Drives: BMW 325i SE 6MT (E90 LCI) Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London Posts: 342 iTrader: (0)	Sounds promising. Still havent been contacted by my dealer for getting this done. (despite being put on there call back list... <_<) Even when they call, still going to move my ODB... not worth the risk for 5 min work.

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