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      01-21-2013, 05:57 PM   #45
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It was a good race... no need to troll. The GTI was definitely quick (I saw it run), it was also completely tubbed out with only a drivers seat and little else inside. Any way you look at it; the cars were all very competitive. FWIW, I hope to have a Procede FBO Race Gas and Meth setup for next time so I'll join as well for a solid comparison of E85 vs meth.
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Highway pulls usually means 60-120/ 130
Not in my neck of the woods. Highway pulls = 40-160+. Tijuana has some scenic roads
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Amen! Dont need to hear all these reasons, CEL or timing. If your car isnt running in its best condition then dont race. Let alone racing with old software/tune.
My car isn't running anywhere near its top condition. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna go out and have some fun every now and then. I'm band-aiding my poop tune with methanol. It's better to go out and have some fun rather than stay home for weeks on end because your missing 10-20whp... Lets just stop this bickering. Stucks gave me two great runs, the third he threw a CEL and called it a night. There's no problem with that. Just enjoy the video and wait for a rematch. Going back and forth is only gonna clutter threads.
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Not in my neck of the woods. Highway pulls = 40-160+. Tijuana has some scenic roads
Same for me. I'm used to hitting at least 140... These runs were cut short to 115-120 because there was a curve on the road. Next time we will need to go to a longer stretch so I can show what the GTI can do at higher speeds. Ill also hopefully have a tire sometime in the neat future so I'm not spinning 3rd gear every single time.
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Same for me. I'm used to hitting at least 140... These runs were cut short to 115-120 because there was a curve on the road. Next time we will need to go to a longer stretch so I can show what the GTI can do at higher speeds. Ill also hopefully have a tire sometime in the neat future so I'm not spinning 3rd gear every single time.
Both those 335i's will need flatline fix in a bad way if they hit those higher speeds. If they don't have it by the re-run, you will be putting bus lengths on them when they're in 5th. the 4-5 shift flatline is worse than the 3-4 flatline lol.
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Both those 335i's will need flatline fix in a bad way if they hit those higher speeds. If they don't have it by the re-run, you will be putting bus lengths on them when they're in 5th. the 4-5 shift flatline is worse than the 3-4 flatline lol.
just out of curiousity... how do u think an FBO, auto, race gas and meth car would do here?
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just out of curiousity... how do u think an FBO, auto, race gas and meth car would do here?
Similarly to the E85 guys assuming none of the cars are flatlining. It all depends on maximizing the tune for the fueling you have. You could run race gas on a stock car and see no gains.
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Kiddo, Why are you talking about flat lining now haha

Youre the idiot that knowingly runs a tune that causes overboost CEL. You have a g5 board but wont update it to iso cause your happy the way it runs now...

Not sure why your spreading your lies on this forum now, after I told you to PM me on the other...

Im done with you.
My first post on the other forum (included below) included flatlining/post shift timing drop, brah. Read more, troll less please. btw, I did pm you and didn't get a response. LOL. Please don't be mad!

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Second, Post shift timing pull is common on cars that even have a protune. Usually happens going into 4th gear on 6AT vehicles. The only way around it is the bms flatline fix flash that you run in combination with JB4. I've seen the logs of the white 335i this morning, and his timing was half of what it should have been throughout the runs, not just the shift. My car has the flatline timing issue as well, but my timing recovered after my shifts, the white car did not.


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It was a good race... no need to troll. The GTI was definitely quick (I saw it run), it was also completely tubbed out with only a drivers seat and little else inside.
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My car isn't running anywhere near its top condition. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna go out and have some fun every now and then. I'm band-aiding my poop tune with methanol. It's better to go out and have some fun rather than stay home for weeks on end because your missing 10-20whp... Lets just stop this bickering. Stucks gave me two great runs, the third he threw a CEL and called it a night. There's no problem with that. Just enjoy the video and wait for a rematch. Going back and forth is only gonna clutter threads.
THANK YOU. People don't get it lol.
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Nice races. That GTI was very quick.

Props to the owner. I'm sure he catches a lot of people sleeping.
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Nice races. That GTI was very quick.

Props to the owner. I'm sure he catches a lot of people sleeping.
Thanks a lot.

Pretty much everyone assumes its stock turbo, until they see it move.
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Enough with the bs... It was a good run, and that's the end of the story. Hope we get to see the rematch.
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lol thats a messed up pro tune for sure not a fair run
im pro tuned an will murder that gti
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lol thats a messed up pro tune for sure not a fair run
im pro tuned an will murder that gti
LOL. Ok, "Busta" Step the fuck up then, and "murder" my GTI. Wait, I bet you live across the country. Hahaha.

Busta can't read either. Clearly wrote the Cobb car had post shift timing issues. Oh, busta.....
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LOL. Ok, "Busta" Step the fuck up then, and "murder" my GTI. Wait, I bet you live across the country. Hahaha.

Busta can't read either. Clearly wrote the Cobb car had post shift timing issues. Oh, busta.....
what does your gti do in the 1/4 and these 335 weight a ton compared to a gutted gti.
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what does your gti do in the 1/4 and these 335 weight a ton compared to a gutted gti.
Mid 11's... It is what it is... Car was running rich at 22psi, 23psi next time.
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lol thats a messed up pro tune for sure not a fair run
im pro tuned an will murder that gti
You will not murder that gti. The first 335i to run that gti in the vid is mine and I have ran a protuned fbo 335i before that was using 40%/60% e85/93 mixed fuel (I was on 25%/75% e85/93 mixed fuel). I think it would be a close race.

My car was basically the same as it was in this video below.

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I am sorry, there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the flatline issue running Cobb only. It's a sore point for me because I've done close to 100 datalogs trying to fix it with no avail. There is a way to make it slightly better at the expense of throttle position, in both ATP or ATR, but if you have a 6AT, stay away from Cobb only if you care about real-world performance.


But sure, no one ever cared, sigh. Imagine how I felt after dealing with this for over two years.
I do.

We both started noticing the flatline issue back in the day when you were running procede.
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I do.

We both started noticing the flatline issue back in the day when you were running procede.
Difference is there is a legitimate workaround now and a cause.
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im very curious to see how you will do from a dig, with drags of course
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My car isn't running anywhere near its top condition. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna go out and have some fun every now and then. I'm band-aiding my poop tune with methanol. It's better to go out and have some fun rather than stay home for weeks on end because your missing 10-20whp... Lets just stop this bickering. Stucks gave me two great runs, the third he threw a CEL and called it a night. There's no problem with that. Just enjoy the video and wait for a rematch. Going back and forth is only gonna clutter threads.
I agree with this guy, its very rare when ones car is at 100%. So when they all had the opportunity to have some fun they did. No use crying over spilt milk. Yeah you can let it be known that the cars were experiencing problems but next time you guys race just hope to have them fixed.By the way that GTI was moving even on that viper, and the 335is were moving too! So instead of everyone complaining just say good race and well do it again soon. If its not for money there's no reason to get bent out of shape. Just my theory on it.
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good runs guys! be safe on the road.

I'd like to come down and play sometime later this winter or early spring. Car is in full winter suspension/subframe mod mayhem at this point.

Would be some fun runs w the older M3 hopefully showing that older cars can still move
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