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Bferro27 · 01-25-2013, 06:00 PM

Any one ok know if its better to use dtc for snow driving

JHR · 01-25-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bferro27

Any one ok know if its better to use dtc for snow driving

It depends. Leave it on for normal safe driving. If you get stuck in deep snow and need to "rock" the car out -- allowing the wheels to slip -- then turn it off. Press for three seconds to disable. Press again to enable.

BmerMeUp · 01-25-2013, 08:09 PM

"Better" is a relative term - "better" than what?
DSC controls "better" than DTC, but
DTC drifts "better" than DSC... which can be fun under the right conditions.

I routinely use DTC instead of DSC on slippery roads where I need to merge into moving traffic from a standing start (like from a side street into a busy street). With DSC, I will accelerate, but any slippage and I might come to a nearly complete jerking stop until it figures everything out. With DTC, I can safely "drift" it into traffic (I use the term rather generously) without the dangerous hesitation a slip-correction can cause.

At all other times I drive with DSC ON as it is the safest option to correct unexpected screwups.

You can also turn the system off completely if you have the space to safely enjoy being a complete goof in your car.

I would recommend you find a large empty snow-covered parking lot with no obstacles and try it out for yourself doing aggressive figure-8's to see what the 3 settings feel like. Good clean fun.

psmitty95 · 01-26-2013, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BmerMeUp

"Better" is a relative term - "better" than what?
DSC controls "better" than DTC, but
DTC drifts "better" than DSC... which can be fun under the right conditions.

I routinely use DTC instead of DSC on slippery roads where I need to merge into moving traffic from a standing start (like from a side street into a busy street). With DSC, I will accelerate, but any slippage and I might come to a nearly complete jerking stop until it figures everything out. With DTC, I can safely "drift" it into traffic (I use the term rather generously) without the dangerous hesitation a slip-correction can cause.

At all other times I drive with DSC ON as it is the safest option to correct unexpected screwups.

You can also turn the system off completely if you have the space to safely enjoy being a complete goof in your car.

I would recommend you find a large empty snow-covered parking lot with no obstacles and try it out for yourself doing aggressive figure-8's to see what the 3 settings feel like. Good clean fun.

+1. I got to have some good clean fun tonight, video should follow tomorrow after I have time to edit it

SOL403 · 01-26-2013, 03:29 AM

^Hahahah Awyeahhhh

psmitty95 · 01-26-2013, 12:26 PM

Video is up. I'll probably throw it up in a thread with pics in the photo section and maybe do another thread in the xi section but for now i'll just post it here:

ajsalida · 01-26-2013, 01:05 PM

Maybe just me but I nearly always use DTC on snow/ice. It allows a little bit of wheel spin & drifting and does not cut throttle. Where I live you'd almost always be cutting power with full DSC which is annoying. The only time I'll run with full DSC in winter conditions is when I want to use cruise control.

psmitty95 · 01-26-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ajsalida

Maybe just me but I nearly always use DTC on snow/ice. It allows a little bit of wheel spin & drifting and does not cut throttle. Where I live you'd almost always be cutting power with full DSC which is annoying. The only time I'll run with full DSC in winter conditions is when I want to use cruise control.

+1. I pretty much do put DTC on everytime I drive the car otherwise I can't floor it in 1st if need be. If it's snowing and I find an empty lot or i'm trying to do a 0-60 pull then i do full traction control off

BmerMeUp · 01-26-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by psmitty95

Video is up. I'll probably throw it up in a thread with pics in the photo section and maybe do another thread in the xi section but for now i'll just post it here:

Looks like fun!
Haayyy-EEEEE!

Bferro27 · 01-26-2013, 09:26 PM

[quote=psmitty95]

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Originally Posted by ajsalida

Maybe just me but I nearly always use DTC on snow/ice. It allows a little bit of wheel spin & drifting and does not cut throttle. Where I live you'd almost always be cutting power with full DSC which is annoying. The only time I'll run with full DSC in winter conditions is when I want to use cruise control.

What kinda bov are you using sounds good

psmitty95 · 01-26-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bferro27

What kinda bov are you using sounds good

It's a tial bov

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Originally Posted by BmerMeUp

Looks like fun!
Haayyy-EEEEE!

Hahahahahah

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BmerMeUp Second Lieutenant Drives: Cinderella: 2008 E91 328xi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ontario Posts: 279 iTrader: (0)	"Better" is a relative term - "better" than what? DSC controls "better" than DTC, but DTC drifts "better" than DSC... which can be fun under the right conditions. I routinely use DTC instead of DSC on slippery roads where I need to merge into moving traffic from a standing start (like from a side street into a busy street). With DSC, I will accelerate, but any slippage and I might come to a nearly complete jerking stop until it figures everything out. With DTC, I can safely "drift" it into traffic (I use the term rather generously) without the dangerous hesitation a slip-correction can cause. At all other times I drive with DSC ON as it is the safest option to correct unexpected screwups. You can also turn the system off completely if you have the space to safely enjoy being a complete goof in your car. I would recommend you find a large empty snow-covered parking lot with no obstacles and try it out for yourself doing aggressive figure-8's to see what the 3 settings feel like. Good clean fun.

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ajsalida Captain Drives: 95 M3, 02 R1150GSA, 09 335xi Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SW USA Posts: 751 iTrader: (1)	Maybe just me but I nearly always use DTC on snow/ice. It allows a little bit of wheel spin & drifting and does not cut throttle. Where I live you'd almost always be cutting power with full DSC which is annoying. The only time I'll run with full DSC in winter conditions is when I want to use cruise control.