E90Post
 


TireRack
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Weird sound while turning wheel



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-25-2013, 01:45 PM   #23
Jeff@TopGearSolutions
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Jeff@TopGearSolutions's Avatar
 
Drives: C6 Z06, GSXR-750, 09 335i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: TopGearSolutions.com

Posts: 16,695
iTrader: (31)

Send a message via AIM to Jeff@TopGearSolutions
Just a word of advice, be careful on wrenching down on the bolts, they can easily snap off. I recommend a torque wrench. If anyone has the ft lbs required please post them up as I dont have the helms manual for this car.

Last but not least, if you guys have the means, maybe the steering rack bolts are loose, especially for those people that installed downpipes.

That is the only thing I can think of if the top strut perches are not shifting.

Also if you have aftermarket downpipes make sure they are not touching the sub frame.
Jeff@TopGearSolutions is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-25-2013, 04:46 PM   #24
tdgesq
Private
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Pacific N.W.

Posts: 95
iTrader: (0)

I also have a noise similar to this that happens first thing in the morning when I back out with the wheel turned. This may sound really weird, but when I turn my interior heating fan off I can't hear it anymore.

Same thing going down my hill (180 degree switchbacks). It will make the noise while turning but then stop when I turn off the fan.
tdgesq is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-26-2013, 02:10 PM   #25
stilov
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Allen, TX

Posts: 415
iTrader: (2)

Pulled them off... Cleaned them up and still have the noise. I am anxious to hear R.G. Results from the dealer.
stilov is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-26-2013, 02:28 PM   #26
R.G.
Lieutenant
 
R.G.'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 335i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In my sub conscious

Posts: 587
iTrader: (8)

Will know by Monday

Update you asap
__________________
Cobb*FSR E40 Pro tune*Dinan IC*Dinan CAI*Dinan Strut Tower*Dinan camber plates*Dinan control arm bushings*MS Catless*ER Chargepipe*Tial BOV*Custom dual 2.5" exhaust w/Vibrant race mid cats & resonaters*Vishnu Walbro 455 Inline kit*BMS OCC*Alpina Trans flash*Misc coding*RB PCV*Megan racing toe arms*M3 subframe bushings*Carbon vented hood*Carbon trunk*Carbon grills*DD rear bumper*Race valances*Vorsteiner carbon front lip*M3 Steering wheel w/DCT paddles*M3 Guages*M3 Side Skirts*Carbon side splitters*Volk RE30s
R.G. is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-28-2013, 04:40 PM   #27
R.G.
Lieutenant
 
R.G.'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 335i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In my sub conscious

Posts: 587
iTrader: (8)

Well it's about 50 degrees here in Vegas and they haven't been able to recreate the noise
Spoke to the SA said the steering column and coupler are going to be lubed and they're going to keep it overnight again see if its cold enough tomorrow morning to make the noise


Ill be sure to keep you guys in the loop as I get more info
__________________
Cobb*FSR E40 Pro tune*Dinan IC*Dinan CAI*Dinan Strut Tower*Dinan camber plates*Dinan control arm bushings*MS Catless*ER Chargepipe*Tial BOV*Custom dual 2.5" exhaust w/Vibrant race mid cats & resonaters*Vishnu Walbro 455 Inline kit*BMS OCC*Alpina Trans flash*Misc coding*RB PCV*Megan racing toe arms*M3 subframe bushings*Carbon vented hood*Carbon trunk*Carbon grills*DD rear bumper*Race valances*Vorsteiner carbon front lip*M3 Steering wheel w/DCT paddles*M3 Guages*M3 Side Skirts*Carbon side splitters*Volk RE30s
R.G. is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-28-2013, 05:11 PM   #28
Big_Luss
New Member
 
Drives: 2008 335xi
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Quebec

Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)

Allright thanks
Big_Luss is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 02:46 PM   #29
Kruz
Major
 
Kruz's Avatar
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chicagoland

Posts: 1,064
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
I too get a weird soft waling kind of sound at very cold startups when turning the steering wheel...not like the video though. Disappears above 40 degrees or when the car warms up.
__________________
07/07 E90 335xi SG
Black Dakota|Alum|ZSP|2AB|ZPP|ZCW|Nav|CA|6FL|PDC|Blackli nes|3M
Summers: 235/40/18 265/35/18 Hankook Ventus V12 on VMR 701s
A/S: 225/40/18 255/35/18 Pirelli PZero Nero M+S on OEM 162s
Kruz is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 05:32 PM   #30
Big_Luss
New Member
 
Drives: 2008 335xi
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Quebec

Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)

The video i did was about -15c so about 5f so it was verry cold...
Big_Luss is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 06:21 PM   #31
R.G.
Lieutenant
 
R.G.'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 335i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In my sub conscious

Posts: 587
iTrader: (8)

Spoke to my SA again
Car still not ready but asked her to tell me again what was done to the steering column. Basically all they did was grease the steering shaft and they haven't been able to recreate the noise but its been warm here. If I find anything else out ill update
__________________
Cobb*FSR E40 Pro tune*Dinan IC*Dinan CAI*Dinan Strut Tower*Dinan camber plates*Dinan control arm bushings*MS Catless*ER Chargepipe*Tial BOV*Custom dual 2.5" exhaust w/Vibrant race mid cats & resonaters*Vishnu Walbro 455 Inline kit*BMS OCC*Alpina Trans flash*Misc coding*RB PCV*Megan racing toe arms*M3 subframe bushings*Carbon vented hood*Carbon trunk*Carbon grills*DD rear bumper*Race valances*Vorsteiner carbon front lip*M3 Steering wheel w/DCT paddles*M3 Guages*M3 Side Skirts*Carbon side splitters*Volk RE30s
R.G. is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-30-2013, 09:25 AM   #32
stilov
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Allen, TX

Posts: 415
iTrader: (2)

Even though it warmed up here...my car is doing it nearly all the time. Maybe just a coincidence, but I did remove the strut brace and clean it and re-install.

I may pull it off again on Saturday and still if it makes that noise without the brace at all...that will help me narrow it down.

Does anyone know which side brace goes on top on the cowl portion...I can also make sure I put them back on correctly.
stilov is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-30-2013, 10:32 AM   #33
NTXE92
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2009 335i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Plano

Posts: 36
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by stilov
Even though it warmed up here...my car is doing it nearly all the time. Maybe just a coincidence, but I did remove the strut brace and clean it and re-install.

I may pull it off again on Saturday and still if it makes that noise without the brace at all...that will help me narrow it down.

Does anyone know which side brace goes on top on the cowl portion...I can also make sure I put them back on correctly.
IIRC the passenger side goes on top
NTXE92 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-30-2013, 11:27 AM   #34
stilov
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Allen, TX

Posts: 415
iTrader: (2)

You don't have the torque spec to those bolts do you? I still think the brace may be the issue, I just don't see how much tighter I can actually go.

When I pulled the braces, the one had some paint coming off the ends...so I guess there must have been some shifting around.
stilov is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-30-2013, 02:00 PM   #35
stratos_335
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Greece

Posts: 327
iTrader: (0)

I think it's a virus for with N54.

I did a downpipe job at the local workshop and after driving the car I noticed a weird noise along with a small vibration only when turning the wheels left.

Everything was tightened up throughly but we couldn't find what's wrong.

I you get up with a solution please chime in.
__________________
stratos_335 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-03-2013, 11:16 AM   #36
stilov
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Allen, TX

Posts: 415
iTrader: (2)

I figured it out... Both struts mounts rubber are torn in a circle. The noise came from the rubber rubbing together as the steering shifted the suspension. During extreme cold the rubber was harder so it was noticed more.

My question now, is it safe to drive still?
stilov is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-03-2013, 11:40 AM   #37
stilov
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Allen, TX

Posts: 415
iTrader: (2)

Here are some pics for good measure...I guess the sound was traveling through the strut tower brace, when I took those off, it did sound like it was coming from the top of the struts.
Attached Images
  
stilov is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-03-2013, 11:21 PM   #38
Ilma
Colonel
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: hometown

Posts: 2,542
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by stilov View Post
Here are some pics for good measure...I guess the sound was traveling through the strut tower brace, when I took those off, it did sound like it was coming from the top of the struts.
That dies look like a rubber insulator for the strut spring.....how did it tear?
__________________
Sticky is an idiot
Ilma is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-04-2013, 07:40 AM   #39
stilov
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Allen, TX

Posts: 415
iTrader: (2)

Not too sure. Mileage I guess. The car has 70k. Dry climate???
stilov is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 10:35 PM   #40
stilov
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Allen, TX

Posts: 415
iTrader: (2)

Replacing the top mounts of the struts fixed the problem. I did replace the struts and shocks at the same time. Feels and sounds good now.
stilov is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 11:04 PM   #41
TwinTuning
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E90 335I
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HERE

Posts: 584
iTrader: (6)

Thanks for sharing. I will check mine out
TwinTuning is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-19-2013, 08:35 PM   #42
TwinTuning
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E90 335I
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: HERE

Posts: 584
iTrader: (6)

What is the part #. Thanks
TwinTuning is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:42 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST