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      02-06-2013, 02:22 PM   #1
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HELP! Car won't start

After my successful glow plug change the other day my car won't start

Symptoms are glow plug light comes on, car starts, stalls after 3 seconds, then won't start again (engine turns and turns) for about 3 minutes, after which it just does the same - starts and runs for 3 seconds
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      02-06-2013, 02:48 PM   #2
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Error codes are:

Heating - no communication possible
Instrument - A559 KOMBI: Supply was switched off (terminal 30 g-f) - no matching fault symptom
DDE - 4453 DDE: Injector, cylinder 5, activation - unknown fault - fault currently present
DDE - 4452 DDE: Injector, cylinder 5, activation - Negative side, short circuit to positive side
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      02-06-2013, 04:35 PM   #3
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Error codes are:

Heating - no communication possible
Instrument - A559 KOMBI: Supply was switched off (terminal 30 g-f) - no matching fault symptom
DDE - 4453 DDE: Injector, cylinder 5, activation - unknown fault - fault currently present
DDE - 4452 DDE: Injector, cylinder 5, activation - Negative side, short circuit to positive side
Did you touch the injectors or its wiring?

1- Check all the wirings of injectors to starts with.
2- Check the condition of the battery.
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The only thing I did with the injector wiring was to tie wrap one wire up as the fabric wrap had come undone, but that was on cylinder 4 not 5

The glow plug fault I initially got was on cyl 5 though...

The car does start, so I'm not sure if it could be battery related?
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What gets me is that it ran fine after I changed the glow plugs, left it from Sunday night to tonight and it won't start - not touched it inbetween

Also, 3 degress here and the glow plug light was on when cranking, which seems odd as it doesn't usually come on until it's below freezing
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Would one faulty injector stop the car from running?
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The only thing I did with the injector wiring was to tie wrap one wire up as the fabric wrap had come undone, but that was on cylinder 4 not 5

The glow plug fault I initially got was on cyl 5 though...

The car does start, so I'm not sure if it could be battery related?
You said, it was not starting.
which one is the case?


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Would one faulty injector stop the car from running?
Nope, it should go into limp mode and bong! But car should still run AFAIK.
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Well, I feel like a bit of an arse, today I took the covers off the engine, and found I'd trapped the injector wires for cylinder 5 between the inlet manifold and the head.

I've freed them off and completed a temporary repair to get me mobile again, but it's going to need a new injector wiring loom - basically all the money saved on doing this myself - poof! gone!
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I've freed them off and completed a temporary repair to get me mobile again, but it's going to need a new injector wiring loom - basically all the money saved on doing this myself - poof! gone!
Sorry to hear that. Why can't you repair the loom yourself?
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I have repaired it, but I'm not happy with it as I've wrapped insulation tape around the wires and cable tied it up. I think I'd rather put it back to how it should be.
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ahh man thats not good :-( at least you have found the cause and can get it sorted mate!
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I have repaired it, but I'm not happy with it as I've wrapped insulation tape around the wires and cable tied it up. I think I'd rather put it back to how it should be.
Get some heat shrink, solder the wires together if they are crushed to the point where you see the wires cores through the insulation.

I know what you mean about wanting it right. But if you do the job properly it'll end up being the stronger part of the loom. Wrap it up and you'll forget about it after a few days. It ain't worth spending on getting a replacement loom. Wire is wire, if it's connected, it works
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