E90Post
 


TireRack
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Final stage 3 pics before it goes in



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-11-2013, 05:04 PM   #45
Vargasturbotech
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Vargasturbotech's Avatar
 
Drives: N54
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: USA

Posts: 1,127
iTrader: (0)

Just an update. Worked all weekend. Trying to finish up today while doing a million other things. Pulled the LPFP back out of the tank and ran a Y on the parallel pump set up instead of a T, not sure why I even ran a T in the first place. Changed the plugged to one step colder NGK gapped at .022", all fluids are in, no leaks, the clutch line is leaking, and I need to address that so I can bleed the clutch and the we will fire. We are firing before putting the subframe in so we can check for any leaks. I updated once we fire it with in car pics, and the video. You cant see much though.
Vargasturbotech is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-11-2013, 05:21 PM   #46
DallasBoosted
Captain
 
DallasBoosted's Avatar
 
Drives: '08 E92 335i
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Dallas

Posts: 864
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2008 BMW 335i  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vargasturbotech View Post
Just an update. Worked all weekend. Trying to finish up today while doing a million other things. Pulled the LPFP back out of the tank and ran a Y on the parallel pump set up instead of a T, not sure why I even ran a T in the first place. Changed the plugged to one step colder NGK gapped at .022", all fluids are in, no leaks, the clutch line is leaking, and I need to address that so I can bleed the clutch and the we will fire. We are firing before putting the subframe in so we can check for any leaks. I updated once we fire it with in car pics, and the video. You cant see much though.
Awesome!
DallasBoosted is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-11-2013, 05:36 PM   #47
drm916
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: atlanta

Posts: 226
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DallasBoosted View Post
Awesome!
Cant wait to see how the intake is routed.

What turbos are these? Will this be sold as a hardware only kit? Since this tucks up in a similar to stock location... are all the accesories located in the same spot also?
drm916 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-11-2013, 07:21 PM   #48
MDORPHN
Colonel
 
Drives: AW 1M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wash, DC

Posts: 2,484
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by drm916 View Post
Cant wait to see how the intake is routed.
Tony said in earlier post that he's mounting filters directly on turbos, though there may need to be a short adapter pipe to allow installation of the filter for the rear turbo.

Neil
MDORPHN is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-11-2013, 08:03 PM   #49
Vargasturbotech
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Vargasturbotech's Avatar
 
Drives: N54
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: USA

Posts: 1,127
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by drm916 View Post
Cant wait to see how the intake is routed.

What turbos are these? Will this be sold as a hardware only kit? Since this tucks up in a similar to stock location... are all the accesories located in the same spot also?
Similar to stock location yes, water pump is relocated slightly forward, small things are changed. Its not a job for the timid. Its quite labor intensive. Double the install time of stockers and throw another 2 hours on top of that to be safe.
Vargasturbotech is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 12:19 PM   #50
Rob@RBTurbo
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Rob@RBTurbo's Avatar
 
Drives: 335I
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO

Posts: 1,082
iTrader: (4)

Approx. 25 hours to bolt up turbo hardware will be a substantial labor cost. Hopefully there was some install lessons learned or hardware modification concept improvements which allows that to be cut back about half when it goes into production.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vargasturbotech View Post
Similar to stock location yes, water pump is relocated slightly forward, small things are changed. Its not a job for the timid. Its quite labor intensive. Double the install time of stockers and throw another 2 hours on top of that to be safe.
Rob@RBTurbo is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 12:29 PM   #51
Vargasturbotech
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Vargasturbotech's Avatar
 
Drives: N54
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: USA

Posts: 1,127
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobBeck View Post
Approx. 25 hours to bolt up turbo hardware will be a substantial labor cost. Hopefully there was some install lessons learned or hardware modification concept improvements which allows that to be cut back about half when it goes into production.
Obviously first time install took at least 10 hours longer then if I did it again. But everyone installing one it will prob be their first time installing and they will not have built the kit so its a wash. You are correct, there are small things that will change that will make the production kit easier to install. Not to mention I took detailed voice notes during install on the things I learned. Which when put into an instruction manual would have saved me 5-7 hours, but when you get something in this tight of a package expect an involved install. That's just the way it is.
Vargasturbotech is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 12:32 PM   #52
Wescuddles
Captain
 
Wescuddles's Avatar
 
Drives: bsm 135i
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Vancouver

Posts: 635
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vargasturbotech
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobBeck View Post
Approx. 25 hours to bolt up turbo hardware will be a substantial labor cost. Hopefully there was some install lessons learned or hardware modification concept improvements which allows that to be cut back about half when it goes into production.
Obviously first time install took at least 10 hours longer then if I did it again. But everyone installing one it will prob be their first time installing and they will not have built the kit so its a wash. You are correct, there are small things that will change that will make the production kit easier to install. Not to mention I took detailed voice notes during install on the things I learned. Which when put into an instruction manual would have saved me 5-7 hours, but when you get something in this tight of a package expect an involved install. That's just the way it is.
People procrastinate too much on these boards - they act like its your first turbo kit lol

Thanks for the updates
__________________
BSM 2008 135i
-VRSF 7" IC -VRSF DP's -n55 mids -BERK race -ER CP -TIAL BOV -BMS DCI -JB4 G5 ISO -ST coils -STOPTECH slotted rotors & pads -SLeK lip
Follow me on instagram: wescuddles
Wescuddles is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 12:39 PM   #53
n54door
Captain
 
n54door's Avatar
 
Drives: 08' 135i
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: DFW

Posts: 618
iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobBeck View Post
Approx. 25 hours to bolt up turbo hardware will be a substantial labor cost. Hopefully there was some install lessons learned or hardware modification concept improvements which allows that to be cut back about half when it goes into production.
Says the competitor... saw that coming.
n54door is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 12:42 PM   #54
Dmacc
Colonel
 
Drives: 2010 135i
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Nor Cal

Posts: 2,633
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by n54door View Post
Says the competitor... saw that coming.
There is no ill will between Rob and Tony, their conversations over this board have always been technical and taken in the right respect, no one is competing when they chat, it is just two individuals sharing some great knowledge, don't interpret it in a negative way
__________________

thanks to MGallop
Dmacc is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 12:48 PM   #55
Rob@RBTurbo
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Rob@RBTurbo's Avatar
 
Drives: 335I
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO

Posts: 1,082
iTrader: (4)

Dmacc. Thanks. Can't even generalize sometimes on these boards without it being a conspiracy. It's no wonder most just stay away and members wonder why. I don't even have a competitive product with this kit. I do know how it goes though with first installs on new products, and figured there could be much improvement made on what I had thought I read.
Rob@RBTurbo is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 12:56 PM   #56
drm916
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: atlanta

Posts: 226
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmacc View Post
There is no ill will between Rob and Tony, their conversations over this board have always been technical and taken in the right respect, no one is competing when they chat, it is just two individuals sharing some great knowledge, don't interpret it in a negative way
Thats what I was thinking..They seem to have a friendly relationship.

RB was just pointing out if it did indeed take 25 hours for every install then it becomes very cost prohibitive.

I am sure the install time will come down once there are some instructions and modifications made to the production parts.

I love the idea of GT series turbos in there.

What kind of numbers are going to be expected?
drm916 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 01:12 PM   #57
Ænema
Captain
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Arizona Bay

Posts: 961
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by drm916 View Post
Thats what I was thinking..They seem to have a friendly relationship.

RB was just pointing out if it did indeed take 25 hours for every install then it becomes very cost prohibitive.

I am sure the install time will come down once there are some instructions and modifications made to the production parts.

I love the idea of GT series turbos in there.

What kind of numbers are going to be expected?
Honestly, the power potential is pretty huge running twin GTx28s. Here's a comparo of the GTx28 to the old GT28(Not sure what wheels tony is running on the protoype.)
__________________
"I'm not surprised you get along well with all the other neighbours. If you put fifty children with Down's syndrome in a room there is going to be a lot of hugging." David Thorne
Ænema is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 01:25 PM   #58
drm916
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: atlanta

Posts: 226
iTrader: (2)

I have run a 28r, a 28rs (disco potatoe), a 2871 and a 3071 on my VWs. Those 3 different gt28 turbos made very different power for me. The GTx series I never ran.

This is shaping up to be very cool indeed. I cant wait to see pricing, options and availability
drm916 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-12-2013, 02:09 PM   #59
boostaholic786
Lieutenant
 
boostaholic786's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 JB4 G5 ISO RB's FBO+40%E85
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: irving tx

Posts: 557
iTrader: (0)

After looking at this and how your progression is on this platform, I might have to sell the RB's and get these stage 3's.... Really curious at how much these suckers are going to make and how the car reacts to it... meaning drive-ability, how much power and torque they are going to be able to put down with supporting mods of course, how the power and torque curve look on the dyno, and just overall if they are going to be Daily Driver use-ability... From the looks though, you guys really know what you are doing and I am sure not going to be the last to say, Congrats and look forward to hopefully doing some business with you guys in the future
__________________
A/W E92 335i M-sport with JB4 G5 ISO/ E40 WEDGE PERFORMANCE BACKEND FLASH, Alpina TCU flash for AT/Switch-tronic +AR Downpipes, Stett gen 1 intake, Wagner-Tuning FMIC+RB Turbo setup/ RB PCV Valve+ Akro exhaust+60% E85/93 mix,+ HRE P40S wheels, KW coilovers, M3 sways,+BMW performance CF Mirrors, BMW Performance CF deck lid spoiler,+ CF interior trim, p3 vent boost gauge,+ LUX angel eyes (11.73@119mph on street tires) NO METH!
boostaholic786 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST