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      01-06-2012, 02:31 AM   #287
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What do you mean by "come with an xi specific option"? If you're asking if you can use KW V1's interchangeably between a normal 335i and 335xi, then the answer is no. The part #'s are different.

V1's are not adjustable in height, rebound or compression. Its settings are set in stone by KW, which chose what they believe is the optimal between performance and looks. And no, you would never a corner balance unless you track your car a lot or if your car sits very differently at each corner. Plus, the change after a corner balance is barely noticeable unless you really know your car well through tracking, etc.

You would definitely need an alignment after installing V1's, though.
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Oops, yes, my bad. V1's are height adjustable, lol. Springs being unadjustable for anything.

I guess I meant to say that corner weight (which can be affected by height) cannot be adjusted by V1's. I was referring to the post above mine that talked about corner balancing.
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Obviously? It's clear enough in my post that you quoted and I even mentioned before that it's pointless to do a corner balance with V1's (meaning, if people are still confused for some reason, that although you can get a corner balance, it's pointless to do so with V1's unless it's for the right reasons).
Not sure how it's "clear enough".

CANNOT (unable to) and SHOULD NOT (pointless to do so) define something VERY different. I'm really not trying to spark an argument but you need to word what you're trying to say A LOT better because forum members will trust wrong info (although unintended in your case) like this.

Edit: Since this is an eibach spring thread, please PM me if you have something else to say in addition.

KEY POINT FOR MEMBERS: In conclusion, please ignore everything Emory335 said in this thread because it will only make it more confusing for you.
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      01-06-2012, 03:40 AM   #288
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Lol, seems like you're just arguing for the sake of having an argument now. And there's really no point to PM you when the last couple of pages of this thread has basically been about coilovers vs springs. Members can shed light on how interesting this thread has gone to

I guess you're confused mostly by these sentences?
-"corner weight (which can be affected by height) cannot be adjusted by V1's"
-"I even mentioned before that it's pointless to do a corner balance with V1's"

First off, please learn to read more carefully. When I said can't and pointless, I am talking about two different things. You CAN'T adjust corner weight with V1's (I do hope you realize that the point I'm trying to make here is that for certain other coilovers, it is possible to adjust corner weight with just the coilovers alone; such as the Eibach R2's), and you SHOULDN'T do a corner balance when you just have V1's on as it is pointless to do so. I made two points that do not contradict each other.

Clear enough for me as long as you understand that there are certain coilovers that can adjust corner weight by just the coilovers.

I do find it funny though, that although you warn members to ignore my posts, you haven't really made any productive posts except correcting my mistake about the height adjust for V1's. In fact, I believe you're wrong about this (and notice the wrong terminology using blow; like I said above, springs don't "blow" shocks. They wear them faster. LOL):





Have you read his explanation? (there are other online explanations that go in more detail; quick, I think there's one on e90 about this too, go go)
PM'd about coilovers/corner balancing.

As for stock shocks blowing, I should have said "EVENTUALLY blow out and leak because the springs wear them faster." Even stock springs will make the stock shocks blow out (which everyone knows) so i just assumed people would understand I mean blow out faster.
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      01-06-2012, 04:00 AM   #289
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Hi Henry,

I don't think changing the springs has any negative effect on whatever shocks are installed.

It's not going up and down more often. It's not putting anymore stress on the shock. If anything, it's reducing the frantic up and down of a stock spring.

I think this idea of stock shocks going bad soon after installing springs started when someone put springs on with already or close to bad or worn out shocks.
As for this post, I decided to ignore it completely because it lacks truth and confidence. "Think"? .. Funny especially since he said "bull" so confidently at my post.

Changing to lowering springs DEFINITELY has negative effect on shocks if they're not matched together.

I installed Eibach pro kit springs on my stock shocks when the car had around 1000 kms and the stock shocks were worn out and not functioning properly in 3~4 months.

As for why lowering springs affect stock shocks negatively, please use google to see the reason. It's everything to do with spring rates and the length of the stroke the stock shocks were designed for.
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      01-06-2012, 04:28 AM   #290
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And you were telling me I had wording issues, lol.

As for that guy's explanation, lol, it's funny and untrue. Just wanted to point out your error

Final point: Get coilovers, if you can afford it, over springs any day of the week. You will not regret your decision. Springs with stock shocks accelerate shock wear; springs do not blow shocks, lol.

PS. Would anyone like to read what he PM'd me exactly? Guaranteed would make you go "wtf"
Lol at least mine isn't confusing as yours. People in e90post assume that "blow" = "blow out eventually" when talking about lowering springs + stock shocks so they understood me fine.

So yes, you're wrong again. Springs DO blow shocks. Just eventually. The shocks leak after a while if badly matched to springs.
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ProKit with B8

I just purchased the ProKit for my '08 e92. Can't wait to get rid of the wheel gap(s). I plan on swapping the shocks/struts at the same time with some Bilsteins. Anyone running the Bilstein B8s with the ProKit? Are the B8's going to lower my e92 even more than just running the Bilstein HD B6's?

For the record I will be buying some 19"s as well within a month. I am hoping the combo of B8 with the ProKit will not lower too much, but rather give just the right look as that of Phozenstone's e92 on page 8.

Thoughts anyone?

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I just purchased the ProKit for my '08 e92. Can't wait to get rid of the wheel gap(s). I plan on swapping the shocks/struts at the same time with some Bilsteins. Anyone running the Bilstein B8s with the ProKit? Are the B8's going to lower my e92 even more than just running the Bilstein HD B6's?

For the record I will be buying some 19"s as well within a month. I am hoping the combo of B8 with the ProKit will not lower too much, but rather give just the right look as that of Phozenstone's e92 on page 8.

Thoughts anyone?
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      05-13-2012, 03:19 AM   #293
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And you were telling me I had wording issues, lol.

As for that guy's explanation, lol, it's funny and untrue. Just wanted to point out your error

Final point: Get coilovers, if you can afford it, over springs any day of the week. You will not regret your decision. Springs with stock shocks accelerate shock wear; springs do not blow shocks, lol.

PS. Would anyone like to read what he PM'd me exactly? Guaranteed would make you go "wtf"
Comparing springs to coilovers is silly. One is for looks and will ride like crap, and the other is for track ready enthusiasts. The price point is also way different. For most daily drivers, coilovers make no sense. There are exceptions, but generally, even the most compliant are going to be much less comfortable that a strut/spring replacement.
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I just had the eibach pro springs installed on my 335xi.
The ride is a lot "smoother" and it also handles a lot better.
I will post more tomorrow. too tired right now
also please note that the springs havent fully settled yet
UPDATES WITH 19" Rims






This is the only before pic that I have


After Pics:
Hey as today do u change ur tires ot shocks I couldnt read all the thread,just to know if u improve the ride? Im planing to do eibach with bilstein.
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      02-08-2013, 04:37 PM   #295
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looks amazing
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      02-13-2013, 06:04 PM   #296
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eibach with bilstien B8, right guys?
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      02-15-2013, 09:49 PM   #297
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Does anyone know if these will drop a car similar to what kw v1 would be spun all the way down?
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      02-16-2013, 08:22 AM   #298
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OK, after reading through 14 pages, the bottom line is Bilstien B8's with Eibach Pro-Kit springs, right fella's.
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      02-20-2013, 02:49 PM   #299
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OK, after reading through 14 pages, the bottom line is Bilstien B8's with Eibach Pro-Kit springs, right fella's.
Yes.

Part numbers:

Bilstein
Front Left: 35-142478
Front Right: 35-142485
Rears (same): 24-120425

Eibach Pro Kit springs: 2092.140

and looks like there is no "rake" look with the 335i springs.
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Yes.

Part numbers:

Bilstein
Front Left: 35-142478
Front Right: 35-142485
Rears (same): 24-120425

Eibach Pro Kit springs: 2092.140

and looks like there is no "rake" look with the 335i springs.

thanks. Where do you find the best pricing. Looks like Turner has a package but it has the harsh H&R springs, not the Eibachs
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thanks. Where do you find the best pricing. Looks like Turner has a package but it has the harsh H&R springs, not the Eibachs
Bav Auto did, but they didn't have them in stock and special order is 1 ~ 2 weeks. I went with Koni Yellows (adjustable) and Eibach. Install is tomorrow so we'll see how that goes. I had Koni yellows on my WRX and really liked it.
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My year review.

Decided to change the OEM suspension due to floaty feeling on bumps and at highway speeds. It just felt dangerous. One time, after hitting a pot hole while taking an on-ramp curb, I though I was going to loose it and jump to the woods. It was bad. So I went with Eibach/Koni combo.

Have had the Eibachs with Koni yellow for close to a year. Still like the setup. It is very daily drivable. Stiff enough to not feel floaty at highway speeds, yet not too bouncy like my old STI. Very comfortable for long trips. Very sporty look. Have had no rattles, squeaks, or noises coming from the suspension.

Changing over to non run flats has changed the feeling of the road completely too. Maybe its because its new rubber, or maybe because its softer sidewalls, but the ride is even more comfortable without loosing grip.

Suspension drop is quite good looking. Not good for snow though. Its low enough that the wheel wells get packed with snow, and sometimes the car will plow the road with the front bumper.

Next step, summer wheels
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I'm only on my second day of ownership but couldn't be happier with Koni yellow + Eibach setup. As for the above coilover vs shocks/springs combo: if you're not autoXing the car, I really don't see a need for it. But then again, it's just my opinion.
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What about putting the bilstien HD's on all around with the Eibach pro kit on a 2006 325XI.

The HD's are recommended heavily on the E46 site, was wondering what the E90 guys think of this set up?
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You want the sports with lowering springs not the HDs. Personally I would get the Konis on sale at tire rack right now instead though.
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Eibach Springs with stock struts and shocks

Just wanted to show everyone how the Eibach springs with stock struts and shocks look. The ride is firm but far from uncomfortable. The handling is more responsive with less roll.

Also got the JB4 stage 3 tune installed, this car is very fast now and fun to drive.
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      12-13-2013, 04:52 PM   #307
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cool.cool.
well i purchased the "i" pro kit mainly for the rear springs only. im currently on h&r + bilstiens. the rear springs were getting a little harsh on heavy bumps. im hoping the prokit rears will solve the prob. as for the front im undecided im pleased with the h&r fronts but there is rake. from all of the pics iv seen its looks as if the prokit sits lower up front than the h&rs and eliminates rake....anywho ill post back soon with updated pics.
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just for reference

in order: (rear) eibach-oem-hr
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