2007 328i has no electrical power, will not start - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

401FlaGATOR · 01-04-2013, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glansberry

Shut off car for 30 minutes. Return to dead car.

Doors are locked, and won't open with key, or with Fob, or with BMW assist.

Climbed in trough trunk, and the can't get doors open from the inside either. The start button does nothing, no interior lights.

Car has a new battery, and the battery voltage is measuring fine, so it isn't a dead battery. New battery was a result of a more minor problem a fw weeks ago

I'm perplexed. What if I was inside the car - I would not be able to get out! This seems to be a serious safety problem with the design of this car.

I will search more about the IBS. This may be a clue. Car is under extended warranty, and will be towed to the dealer. I want to understand better, so I can decide whether to get rid of the car.

You are absolutely correct in your assertion that this is a safety issue..I
have experienced this same issue twice in the past and have written to the NHTSA about it, suggest you do the same, to my knowledge no one has died yet from having this happen but there are lots of instances of it mentioned on the NHTSA complaints board.

MrDummy · 01-04-2013, 11:20 AM

Thanks FD, please keep us in the loop on your situation.

MrDummy · 01-05-2013, 02:07 PM

I just found out my service manager is not at my dealership anymore and either is the general manager..

So now I need to build up a repore with new peeps...which sucks cause I had a special deal going on with any service issues...

Ps any news FD?

loobie · 01-05-2013, 06:15 PM

Mine is in for this exact fix right now. Covered under cpo. New fuse box and wiring

MrDummy · 01-06-2013, 02:20 PM

Man that's good it should be covered, this is some bullshit with our bimmers....

I need to still find out if it was fixed back to a screw in 2010 models...

Anyone know if it was?
Thanks

MrD

LuxeFilms · 01-06-2013, 11:37 PM

I have an 07 335 and just had the majority of my main electrical system replaced due to a bunch of anomalies I was having. They replaced my 07 battery, both positive & ground terminals, the entire main electrical trunk line that runs from the trunk to the hood, the main power distro box, and the grounding rod. It was at the dealer for 2 whole weeks. I first replaced my 07 battery with a new one and was still having a lot power anomalies which led to finding all these other issues above. The main reason it lost power was because the main electrical line literally melted the electrical distribution box due to a short. I'd recommend asking them to check for that on your car, as its a known issue. BMW covered everything under cpo. Hope this helps!

MrDummy · 01-07-2013, 10:50 AM

It helped me I'm going to put that in my list of issues for them to fix/look at.

jzxi · 01-16-2013, 07:23 PM

Hi everybody, My '07 with 62k on the clock just did this. I found the problem easy enough. 2.8 volts at the fuse box, 12.6 volts at the battery. Before I pulled the fuse box I took a screw driver and pushed on the large gauge red wire going to the back of the fuse box. All my lights came on....subsequently pulled the fuse box and examined the main power lead. Mine is not melted, but the contacts were dirty. I cleaned them up and re-installed everything.

It works fine now, but this is a stupid and dangerous design. I called the dealer and the "fix" would be covered under warranty(CPO). Mine is CPO until july, If it happens again by then, I'll have roadside assistance tow it the 250 miles to the nearest dealer.

This should be a recall as any number of dangerous outcomes are possible, fire, collision, etc..

cheers
jz

sebaNYC · 01-16-2013, 08:13 PM

That problem happened to me, while I was driving the car turned off!!!

Just replace the fusebox (is gonna b melted where the b+ cable is connected) and the cable (is the red cable that goes from the battery in the truck to the fusebox on the glovebox)

Feshdogg · 01-18-2013, 12:32 AM

Update on my car:

I took it into the dealer. They had it for a week and couldn't duplicate the problem again. They inspected everything and said it was fine, nothing they could see. So, they sent me on my way.

Well, drove the car home, went to go drive the very next day and guess what. Now, wiggling the cable does nothing so I have now duplicated the problem for them! I had it towed to the dealer just before they closed, so I should know more tomorrow hopefully.

I really worry about the danger of the malfunction while driving. I'm sure more than a few of us are 'spirited drivers.' And some of us even take them to the track. Boy would that be interesting.

Has anybody else contacted BMWNA or NHTSA about this?

jzxi · 01-18-2013, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feshdogg

Update on my car:

Has anybody else contacted BMWNA or NHTSA about this?

Yes I did, while the repairing this fault is easy enough, BMW has not updated the part(I called the dealer parts department). Frequency of failure and any incident(s) of fire and collision should be investigated, even the dealer I called said it was a relatively common issue.

cheers
jz

Feshdogg · 01-18-2013, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzxi

Yes I did, while the repairing this fault is easy enough, BMW has not updated the part(I called the dealer parts department). Frequency of failure and any incident(s) of fire and collision should be investigated, even the dealer I called said it was a relatively common issue.

cheers
jz

I have a problem both with 'cleaning everything up' and replacing faulty components with the same faulty components. To me this is not a fix and there ARE going to be serious repercussions for the public, eventually. There is no doubt in my mind.

I am seriously considering getting rid of the car and never buying another BMW, or any other make that is this prone to electrical failure.

Feshdogg · 02-20-2013, 11:49 PM

Dealer had the car for 4 weeks. What a joke. Ended up replacing a bunch of parts under warranty for a total of almost $3,000 including labor. Hope it holds up.

LACKY330iBMW · 03-10-2013, 12:07 AM

There is recall for this

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91I0TZ20130219

LACKY330iBMW · 03-10-2013, 12:51 AM

You can get your money back hopefully you have reicipt.

Feshdogg · 03-10-2013, 04:36 PM

Thank god they have wised up to this. I am just really glad that my electrical was lost BEFORE I started my car. Driving while it happening would be VERY scary!

My 3rd party extended warranty covered it all. I wonder if BMW would reimburse them???

Rollo` · 03-10-2013, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feshdogg

Thank god they have wised up to this. I am just really glad that my electrical was lost BEFORE I started my car. Driving while it happening would be VERY scary!

My 3rd party extended warranty covered it all. I wonder if BMW would reimburse them???

Who do you have your warranty with?

Feshdogg · 03-10-2013, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollo`

Who do you have your warranty with?

Millennium. Why do you ask?

01-04-2013, 11:20 AM	#24
MrDummy →сяuisiиg iи му вмш← Drives: 2010 Space Gray 328i Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Unemployment Capitol of America Posts: 1,646 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 BMW 328i [0.00]	Thanks FD, please keep us in the loop on your situation. __________________ SuPerMoD @ MassMonsterz.com A "Happy" Owner of a Metallic Space Gray 2010 BMW 328i ProGaMeR on the XboX 360

01-05-2013, 02:07 PM	#25
MrDummy →сяuisiиg iи му вмш← Drives: 2010 Space Gray 328i Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Unemployment Capitol of America Posts: 1,646 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 BMW 328i [0.00]	I just found out my service manager is not at my dealership anymore and either is the general manager.. So now I need to build up a repore with new peeps...which sucks cause I had a special deal going on with any service issues... Ps any news FD? __________________ SuPerMoD @ MassMonsterz.com A "Happy" Owner of a Metallic Space Gray 2010 BMW 328i ProGaMeR on the XboX 360

01-06-2013, 02:20 PM	#27
MrDummy →сяuisiиg iи му вмш← Drives: 2010 Space Gray 328i Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Unemployment Capitol of America Posts: 1,646 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 BMW 328i [0.00]	Man that's good it should be covered, this is some bullshit with our bimmers.... I need to still find out if it was fixed back to a screw in 2010 models... Anyone know if it was? Thanks MrD __________________ SuPerMoD @ MassMonsterz.com A "Happy" Owner of a Metallic Space Gray 2010 BMW 328i ProGaMeR on the XboX 360

01-07-2013, 10:50 AM	#29
MrDummy →сяuisiиg iи му вмш← Drives: 2010 Space Gray 328i Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Unemployment Capitol of America Posts: 1,646 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 BMW 328i [0.00]	It helped me I'm going to put that in my list of issues for them to fix/look at. __________________ SuPerMoD @ MassMonsterz.com A "Happy" Owner of a Metallic Space Gray 2010 BMW 328i ProGaMeR on the XboX 360

01-16-2013, 07:23 PM	#30
jzxi Enlisted Member Drives: 2007 328xi Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gunnison, CO USA Posts: 37 iTrader: (1)	Hi everybody, My '07 with 62k on the clock just did this. I found the problem easy enough. 2.8 volts at the fuse box, 12.6 volts at the battery. Before I pulled the fuse box I took a screw driver and pushed on the large gauge red wire going to the back of the fuse box. All my lights came on....subsequently pulled the fuse box and examined the main power lead. Mine is not melted, but the contacts were dirty. I cleaned them up and re-installed everything. It works fine now, but this is a stupid and dangerous design. I called the dealer and the "fix" would be covered under warranty(CPO). Mine is CPO until july, If it happens again by then, I'll have roadside assistance tow it the 250 miles to the nearest dealer. This should be a recall as any number of dangerous outcomes are possible, fire, collision, etc.. cheers jz __________________ Sparkling graphite, Cold, Premium, Sport, 6MT, 35% tint, Eibach pro, 17" 159's with studded Gislaved winters. 18" AG 310 with Michelin PSS summer.

01-05-2013, 06:15 PM	#26
loobie Private First Class Drives: 2007 335xi Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 170 iTrader: (1)	Mine is in for this exact fix right now. Covered under cpo. New fuse box and wiring

01-06-2013, 11:37 PM	#28
LuxeFilms Private Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 70 iTrader: (0)	I have an 07 335 and just had the majority of my main electrical system replaced due to a bunch of anomalies I was having. They replaced my 07 battery, both positive & ground terminals, the entire main electrical trunk line that runs from the trunk to the hood, the main power distro box, and the grounding rod. It was at the dealer for 2 whole weeks. I first replaced my 07 battery with a new one and was still having a lot power anomalies which led to finding all these other issues above. The main reason it lost power was because the main electrical line literally melted the electrical distribution box due to a short. I'd recommend asking them to check for that on your car, as its a known issue. BMW covered everything under cpo. Hope this helps!

01-16-2013, 08:13 PM	#31
sebaNYC Private First Class Drives: BMW 328xi Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New York Posts: 179 iTrader: (2)	Get a new fusebox and the b+cable That problem happened to me, while I was driving the car turned off!!! Just replace the fusebox (is gonna b melted where the b+ cable is connected) and the cable (is the red cable that goes from the battery in the truck to the fusebox on the glovebox)

01-18-2013, 12:32 AM	#32
Feshdogg Private Drives: 2007 335i Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 54 iTrader: (1)	Update on my car: I took it into the dealer. They had it for a week and couldn't duplicate the problem again. They inspected everything and said it was fine, nothing they could see. So, they sent me on my way. Well, drove the car home, went to go drive the very next day and guess what. Now, wiggling the cable does nothing so I have now duplicated the problem for them! I had it towed to the dealer just before they closed, so I should know more tomorrow hopefully. I really worry about the danger of the malfunction while driving. I'm sure more than a few of us are 'spirited drivers.' And some of us even take them to the track. Boy would that be interesting. Has anybody else contacted BMWNA or NHTSA about this?

02-20-2013, 11:49 PM	#35
Feshdogg Private Drives: 2007 335i Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 54 iTrader: (1)	Dealer had the car for 4 weeks. What a joke. Ended up replacing a bunch of parts under warranty for a total of almost $3,000 including labor. Hope it holds up.

03-10-2013, 12:07 AM	#36
LACKY330iBMW New Member Drives: 330i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	There is recall for this http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91I0TZ20130219

03-10-2013, 12:51 AM	#37
LACKY330iBMW New Member Drives: 330i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	You can get your money back hopefully you have reicipt.

03-10-2013, 04:36 PM	#38
Feshdogg Private Drives: 2007 335i Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 54 iTrader: (1)	Thank god they have wised up to this. I am just really glad that my electrical was lost BEFORE I started my car. Driving while it happening would be VERY scary! My 3rd party extended warranty covered it all. I wonder if BMW would reimburse them???

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