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      02-27-2013, 12:19 PM   #6997
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Thanks. Got it installed and just plan to drive around a bit. One additional question is on the difference between Linear and stock throttle response? I loaded the linear aggressive map and it feels like I have to give it less gas to maintain a normal speed. I'm assuming stock ramps more as you go through the pedal travel?
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Thanks. Got it installed and just plan to drive around a bit. One additional question is on the difference between Linear and stock throttle response? I loaded the linear aggressive map and it feels like I have to give it less gas to maintain a normal speed. I'm assuming stock ramps more as you go through the pedal travel?
yes. this has been asked a gazillion times . try both and see which one you like best
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Maybe someone could ease or not ease my concerns. Every 900-1100 miles I keep getting the following codes popping up:

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Running Stage 2+ FMIC Agressive ST map on 2011 335is.

Was thinking maybe exhaust leak at the Downpipes?
I would guess an exhaust leak pre-cat as well. Let us know if you fix the leak or if you find something else to be the cause.

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I've had my car for over 2 years and it's always primed the fuel system when I unlock the doors. If there's a TSB/SIB for LPFP I can't find one. I'm not convinced this is nothing to worry about.

Can someone from Cobb please chime in?
I've heard of some cars not priming every time even while stock. We've never seen a fuel pump issue tied to not hearing the pump prime. Shoot me a PM if you have any other questions and I'll be able to get back to you quicker.

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What map should I use with 93+ E85? Would this just be aggressive? I saw 100 octane (race maps) but no e85 mix. Also this may be a dumb question but do I need any further mods to run e85? I am currently running St 1+ soon to be 2+. Do you literally just fill from the gas station or mix seperate? If I do not need any further mods or crazy mixing methods then e85 will be in the tank asap

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What map should I use with 93+ E85? Would this just be aggressive? I saw 100 octane (race maps) but no e85 mix. Also this may be a dumb question but do I need any further mods to run e85? I am currently running St 1+ soon to be 2+. Do you literally just fill from the gas station or mix seperate? If I do not need any further mods or crazy mixing methods then e85 will be in the tank asap
the E30 map but you need to be fully bolt on. you mix it at the gas station, there is a pdf guide on cobb site and also a dedicated cobb E30 thread here, just search for it.
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      03-02-2013, 01:46 PM   #7003
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Any thoughts on my log? Stg2+ agg...i'm not wild about the noisy cyl2, and the modest timing pull approaching peak boost. Any thoughts would be appreciated, the car feels strong and hasn't thrown any codes in quite some time. Just curious as to what you guys think, thanks! Oh and to be clear, download the google doc so you can see all the values.

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That's a pretty good log. It's completely normal to see one or two cylinders make a small correction like that, especially at/near peak torque. I wouldn't even pay attention to the correction in #6, that happened before you were even at WOT.

The only thing is that you're seeing some pretty mild overboost induced throttle trimming, you could clean that up a little if you want to.
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      03-02-2013, 02:13 PM   #7005
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That's a pretty good log. It's completely normal to see one or two cylinders make a small correction like that, especially at/near peak torque. I wouldn't even pay attention to the correction in #6, that happened before you were even at WOT.

The only thing is that you're seeing some pretty mild overboost induced throttle trimming, you could clean that up a little if you want to.
Thanks for the response, I agree with all of your comments...Cyl 6 didn't worry me, and all in all the corrections are pretty modest, it was the sleight pull in timing that piqued my interest. Any thoughts on correcting that throttle trimming? I'm pretty competent on our cars, but I have very little experience with ATR, i've only used OTS mapping. I plan on getting protuned in the spring, so I may just accept it as being less than 100% until then if the logs still look relatively clean. Pushing 19psi is a bit more than i'd like (though taper looks strong), though last I checked my snails were in very good chape.
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Also I just want to say...Cobb fueling FTW. Pins AFRs perfectly every time, that makes me a happy camper.
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Thanks for the response, I agree with all of your comments...Cyl 6 didn't worry me, and all in all the corrections are pretty modest, it was the sleight pull in timing that piqued my interest. Any thoughts on correcting that throttle trimming? I'm pretty competent on our cars, but I have very little experience with ATR, i've only used OTS mapping. I plan on getting protuned in the spring, so I may just accept it as being less than 100% until then if the logs still look relatively clean. Pushing 19psi is a bit more than i'd like (though taper looks strong), though last I checked my snails were in very good chape.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=792736
I started that thread a while back and there's some good discussion in there on fixing overshoots.

Honestly though, once the temps start to warm up(charge air becomes less dense) your overshoots may fix themselves. The DME uses calculated MAF to measure load and it uses the WGDC base to hit that MAF. When it's cold the air is "heavier" so it takes less WGDC to hit target and it overboosts before the PID table can pull out DC.
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      03-05-2013, 11:01 AM   #7008
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Just making sure that I understand this chart correctly...



I would need to mix ~11 gallons of gasoline and ~5 gallons of E85 to get E33.

Is it ok to add a little more E85 just to be safe? I don't want to use the E30 map and not blend in enough E85.

I cannot tell what kind of gasoline that chart is assuming (100, 93, 91). I only have access to 91 so would I need to mix in even more E85?

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Yes, you're correct. The general rule of thumb is 5 gallons of e85 to a tank. However, the tank only holds ~14 gallons so it's more like 5 gallons to 9 gallons. Also, right now e85 is in a "winter blend" so it is almost certainly less than e85. The DME is able to compensate for a fairly wide range of ethanol content, so it's by far better to have more ethanol than not enough.

Keep an eye on your timing and STFTs in your logs. If timing is clean and fuel trims are good then you're fine. If not, adjust ethanol content and fuel scalar if necessary.

EDIT: Ohh, if you start approaching or exceeding roughly a 40% mix then add LPFP actual to the log list, you want to be sure you're not killing the pump.
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Yes, you're correct. The general rule of thumb is 5 gallons of e85 to a tank. However, the tank only holds ~14 gallons so it's more like 5 gallons to 9 gallons. Also, right now e85 is in a "winter blend" so it is almost certainly less than e85. The DME is able to compensate for a fairly wide range of ethanol content, so it's by far better to have more ethanol than not enough.

Keep an eye on your timing and STFTs in your logs. If timing is clean and fuel trims are good then you're fine. If not, adjust ethanol content and fuel scalar if necessary.

EDIT: Ohh, if you start approaching or exceeding roughly a 40% mix then add LPFP actual to the log list, you want to be sure you're not killing the pump.
Really thats weird my tank hold 16 gallons...
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Really thats weird my tank hold 16 gallons...
Really? I've never been able to get more than just over 13 gallons in my car when reading ~15 miles to empty. Maybe the e8x and e9x use different size tanks?
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Really? I've never been able to get more than just over 13 gallons in my car when reading ~15 miles to empty. Maybe the e8x and e9x use different size tanks?
Most likely i filled my car up once almost bone dry 3 miles left and the pump read 16.4 gallons. Most likely they had to put a smaller tank in the e8x because of its limited space.
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My E8x tank has never seen over 13 gallons, when I run it pretty damn close to empty it takes about 12.5ish. FWIW.
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Sounds like there are definitely two different size tanks. Good to know.
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Sounds like there are definitely two different size tanks. Good to know.
Yea, there must be. Your first post confused me! My tank definitely holds 16 gallons.

Can anybody with a 335i tell me how much E85 they add? According to the chart, it should be roughly 5 gallons of E85 to 11 gallons of gasoline, but if you are using 5 gallons of E85 to 9 gallons of gasoline, I should add more E85? Maybe 6 gallons of E85 and 10 gallons of gasoline?
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One more thing... I live about 10 miles from the nearest E85 station. Should I fill up and then flash my car with the E30 map or can I flash the car first and then fill up?

A very dumb question, I know. Please be gentle!
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One more thing... I live about 10 miles from the nearest E85 station. Should I fill up and then flash my car with the E30 map or can I flash the car first and then fill up?

A very dumb question, I know. Please be gentle!

Fill up then flash at the station...
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Fill up then flash at the station...
That's what I was afraid of. Too bad flashing takes 10-15 minutes.
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