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      04-24-2013, 09:19 AM   #1
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Hankook V12 vs Conti DWS

Okay so I think I've narrowed my two tire choices down to Hankook V12 or the Conti DWS

Keeping in mind, I live in North Florida - so we have a handful-10 days of winter where it's under freezing...sometimes not even that many

I've read pros and cons on each

Conti DWS seems to have longer tread life, but have seen many reviews with weak sidewall issues but gets complimented on it's grip, mainly in snow, which isn't a factor for me and pretty good grip in summer

Hankooks seem to rate pretty good grip wise in summer, not at all a winter tire but tread life seems to be below average - but I do like the look of these

I'm switching from stock 16" runflats on OEM 156 wheels on my 328i (base model) to 18" OEM 189's (staggered setup - et34 front et37 rear)
Tire sizes will be 225/40/18 front and 255/35/18 rear

Looking for opinions on what others would choose from these two...

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The Conti DW seems like a more apples/apples comparison with the V12, especially seeing as you're in Florida. I probably wouldn't bother with all-seasons where you are.
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I've had Conti DW tires on my car for about one week, and so far so good. Looks to me for a tire doesn't mean anything, I buy them for their performance.
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      04-24-2013, 10:34 AM   #4
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I've had Conti DW tires on my car for about one week, and so far so good. Looks to me for a tire doesn't mean anything, I buy them for their performance.
Understandable - but performance wise they're fairly close
Was just stating the Hankooks had a better sportier look to them but I understand your point....
The DW seems as if treadwear is close based on rating on Tire Rack
Still concerned with the sidewalls on the Conti - has anyone had experience of flimsy sidewalls on Conti?

Decisions decisions....
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I'm sure most everyone has had "flimsy" sidewall issues with the DWS...that's pretty much what they're known for. Would I buy another set? No...based on many reasons.

lol at even considering the "looks" of a tire as a buying decison...if you want a summer tire, go with the PSS. If you want a good all season, wait for the Michelin AS to release in the summer. Only YOU can decide whether or not something will last long enough for your needs...
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Understandable - but performance wise they're fairly close
Was just stating the Hankooks had a better sportier look to them but I understand your point....
The DW seems as if treadwear is close based on rating on Tire Rack
Still concerned with the sidewalls on the Conti - has anyone had experience of flimsy sidewalls on Conti?

Decisions decisions....
I don't think the DW tires I have are squishy, although I have 19s, so the sidewall is very short (and I live a paranoid life dodging pot holes these days as we shift into spring). DWS will be softer, given they are an all-season.

I know a guy who has DWS on a Mazda3 and he loves them, and he's sensitive to overly squishy tires.
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Those tires are pretty different. The Hankooks are a great budget summer performance tire, and the Continentals are one of the top rated all-seasons right now. If you think you could get away with a summer tire year round, go for the Hankooks or Continental DWs. The DWS will last longer and be better in the rain, most likely.

I ran some Hankook Ventus V12s, and while I liked them quite a bit, the sidewalls are soft and they leave a bit to be desired when they are pushed to their limits. I still recommend them to customers though, and I would buy them again. Good tire for the money.

If you want one of the best though... Michelin Pilot Super Sports.
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FWIW, this is one data point and not stastically significant but I have a friend's 2008 E350 sitting in my garage with a sidewall crack. Not a through crack but loses pressure quickly. Size is 245/40/18. But they seem like decent budget tires other than that.
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That would be caused by hitting a pothole, or any other road hazard. While sidewall strength plays a part in that, any tire has the potential to do that.
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      04-25-2013, 12:08 PM   #10
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That would be caused by hitting a pothole, or any other road hazard. While sidewall strength plays a part in that, any tire has the potential to do that.
I suppose so. Don't know the history behind those wheels and like I said, it's probably not statistically significant... :dunno:
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Yeah, there are just so many factors that can influence that. Tough to say exactly what the reasoning is!
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The OP is asking about the DWS, which is an all season tire. A couple of those responding to his post are referring to the DW, which is a max performance summer tire.

The names are very similar but the tires are very different from each other so it is important not to get the two confused.

Handling, grip, steering response : DW > V12 EVO > DWS


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      04-26-2013, 11:30 AM   #13
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I just purchased my second set of v12's. For a college kid with an expensive taste in automobiles these are the best value of any tire I've come across.

Treadwear, performance, and cost considered you will not find a better Summer tire. This being said I've never dealt with the Conti's personally.
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^The Continental DW is a nice tire as well. Generally a bit more expensive, but they're quiet and offer pretty good performance for the price as well.
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V12's have a rebate going on as well right now...I just bought a set for my wife's e91, I have a set for my G37 and I will be getting a set for my e34. Like what mrbilly said, they're a great tire for the price. I have been curious about DW though and may be willing to try a set at some point...
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I have the Hankook V12's, live in Cali, so pretty much only warm weather just like Florida, and the tires work great. My dad had the Continental DWS's and they didn't offer the same levels of grip, IMO.
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Get the DWS, Here's why:

I got 65K out of my last set - not a misprint!

Add airpressure closer to max and the sidewalls feel great!

They are awesome in the rain!

They run very smooth and very quiet, even when they have 50k on them.

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Understandable - but performance wise they're fairly close
Was just stating the Hankooks had a better sportier look to them but I understand your point....
The DW seems as if treadwear is close based on rating on Tire Rack
Still concerned with the sidewalls on the Conti - has anyone had experience of flimsy sidewalls on Conti?

Decisions decisions....
In North Florida there is NO good reason to get the DWS. Summer Performance tires are going to be better in the rain than the All Season, and you wont have the All Season Sidewall concerns. The DW's ride like all Continentals, (Quiet and smooth) and are still on sale at Tire rack I think. They are excellent in the wet.

I really would reconsider the DWS though. They are cushy and quiet, but not really on Par with a true Summer tire and may well be disappointing on your BMW.
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Picked up my first 335xi last week. Needed to replace the front rft's and decided to go with the DWS. Have been pleased thus far thanks to the advice on here!
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How's the tread wear for the DW compared to the DWS and Hankook V12?
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With having the experience of using all these tires on various 19" and 20" tires, the Hankook's are a good BUDGET tire. Nowhere near the performance of the DW as a full summer tire. I would say the Hankook performs closer to the DWS than the DW.

That being said, if you're looking to buy tires in the Hankook/DWS price range, then I would highly recommend the General GMax tires. Made by Continental, it's a high-performance all season tire. Much better tire than the DWS, and IMHO, I prefer them over the Hankook's as well! (and I am currently running Hankook's on my personal car)

If you can afford to spend the extra couple bucks on the DW, then do it! It blows all three tires I mentioned above out of the water!

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How's the tread wear for the DW compared to the DWS and Hankook V12?
averages from my experience :

Conti DW and Hankook V12 EVO = summer tires = 20,000-30,000 miles of wear.

Conti DWS = all season tires = 40,000-50,000+ miles of wear.
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