E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > ConnectedDrive / I-Drive / Navigation Related Discussion > Nav File Questions...



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-30-2013, 10:09 AM   #1
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

Nav File Questions...

Here is what I have done so far:

downloaded: BMW_CIC_NAVIGATION_NORTH_AMERICA_2013/ which was about 15.7 GB, put pkgdb and config.nfm in USB root and plugged that into my USB in glove box...nothing happened.

next I downloaded: v.2013_NA_PREMIUM_CIC_USB (23) .RAR files
I am going to put those on the USB with the hope that this will work

Why could I not read BMW_CIC_NAVIGATION_NORTH_AMERICA_2013 when I plugged the USB drive into the car?

ALSO, WHAT DO I DO WITH THOSE (23) .rar FILES ONCE THEY ARE DOWNLOADED? WHAT DO i PUT ON THE USB DRIVE?
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 08:19 AM   #2
2kaccordocoupe
Colonel
 
2kaccordocoupe's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 335i E92 Coupe
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: GTA

Posts: 2,721
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2009 e92 335i  [0.00]
you have started 3 threads for the same thing, is that really necessary?
the current software version on your car will not support the map update via usb

not do be a d**k or anything but that's not the way to go about getting help from people on this forum
__________________
2009 335i E92 Coupe
Manual/Navigation/Executive/Audiophile/Sport/19s
Alpine White/Coral Red Dakota

Last edited by 2kaccordocoupe; 05-01-2013 at 08:39 AM.
2kaccordocoupe is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 10:32 AM   #3
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

Thank you for the reply. Not to questing your expertise, but I read that multiple people that had their car manufactured 4/2009 and 6/2009 were able to upgrade their maps with the USB...why do you think I can't?

Also one of the map downloads was only 15.4 GB
The other one was like 21.2

I never tried updating with the USB with the larger file set. I only tried with the 15.4GB and I am thinking it was not complete and maybe just maybe that is why it did not work

What are your thoughts please
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 01:12 PM   #4
gpb
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335i Cabrio
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Atlanta

Posts: 393
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh77 View Post
Not to questing your expertise, but I read that multiple people that had their car manufactured 4/2009 and 6/2009 were able to upgrade their maps with the USB...why do you think I can't?
Some people have had their car's software updated for one reason or another. Others have not. Those whose cars were updated were successful.

You really ought to read the thread that covers all these questions: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13914265
gpb is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 02:09 PM   #5
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

I checked the firmware version and this was the message:

Software update with BMW ConnectedDrive.
You are running the latest software. There is no software update available.

To perform the software update via USB stick, you will require the USB audio interface (included in optional equipment codes 6FL, 6NK or 6NL) as well as the Control Display and iDrive. This offer is only available for selected vehicles manufactured after March 2010. Your vehicle can be updated provided that you have the ‘Software update’ option on your ‘Settings’ menu in the Control Display

So if I have the latest firmware...I am assuming the download was bad
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 02:35 PM   #6
Dracon
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Drives: 2006 330i E90
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Nashville, TN

Posts: 903
iTrader: (14)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh77 View Post
Thank you for the reply. Not to questing your expertise, but I read that multiple people that had their car manufactured 4/2009 and 6/2009 were able to upgrade their maps with the USB...why do you think I can't?

Also one of the map downloads was only 15.4 GB
The other one was like 21.2

I never tried updating with the USB with the larger file set. I only tried with the 15.4GB and I am thinking it was not complete and maybe just maybe that is why it did not work

What are your thoughts please
Because they've had the dealership update their software to a newer level. That's why they are able do the USB update.

Think of it this way,

All M/Y 2009 vehicles shipped with iDrive software 1.0 installed (not really 1.0 but a simplistic example).

BMW released iDrive software 1.5 in 2010 which added the ability to update maps via USB. In order to get this ability, it required the dealership to install the update on the car. Usually BMW only installs updates on a car when it's needed for service or some problem.

Basically, those people took their car in for service, or for a problem which required them to update all the software on the car, installing the 1.5 update along with it. So they now have the ability to update via USB.

You can either have your dealership update your software (tell your SA that you bought the new maps and can't load them via USB). If you are lucky, they'll update your software for free. Otherwise you can find a coder with good equipment or an independent shop to update your car, than you can load the USB.
Dracon is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 02:40 PM   #7
gpb
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335i Cabrio
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Atlanta

Posts: 393
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh77 View Post
I checked the firmware version and this was the message:

Software update with BMW ConnectedDrive.
You are running the latest software.
Yeah, it says that and many misinterpret the message just as you have. Read the rest of that page at BMW - it's talking about the software module for handling bluetooth devices. It's NOT talking about the CIC software that allows you to read NAV updates from a USB stick.

Here's a quick test: go to the Nav map screen. Look at the gray Info box in the upper right. Press your iDrive controller knob. If the info box doesn't go away, you have the old software and you can redownload the torrent until you're LeMans Blue in the face with no success.

(BTW, the above was covered in the thread I've pointed you to three times now.)
gpb is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 02:54 PM   #8
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

I think I will just try and update with the DVD's

Copy the downloads to a DVD so i don't have to get the firmware updated.

I can't find where this was discussed in the 17 page thread

Will this work?
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 02:57 PM   #9
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

I am at work..I don't have time to read 17 pages of threads. It would be faster if you could answer the simple question instead of telling me over and over to look in a 17 page thread. Thank you
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 03:30 PM   #10
gpb
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335i Cabrio
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Atlanta

Posts: 393
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh77 View Post
Copy the downloads to a DVD so i don't have to get the firmware updated.
I can't find where this was discussed in the 17 page thread
Will this work?
Touched on a couple times. Try the “Search this Thread” tool, it’s pretty handy.

Short version is you’ll need to figure out how to span a 22GB file tree across 4GB DVDs including which files go on which DVD. I’ve yet to read of anyone being successful. 2012 and earlier updates came with ISO images so it was easy. 2013 update comes only as USB stick containing the aforementioned file tree.

(if you have a bunch of RAR files you’ll need to run them through WinRAR or similar to extract the 22GB file tree)


Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh77 View Post
I am at work..I don't have time to read 17 pages of threads.
Yet you want other people to donate their time to you answering questions you won’t search for yourself?
gpb is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 04:09 PM   #11
Dracon
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Drives: 2006 330i E90
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Nashville, TN

Posts: 903
iTrader: (14)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh77 View Post
I checked the firmware version and this was the message:

Software update with BMW ConnectedDrive.
You are running the latest software. There is no software update available.

To perform the software update via USB stick, you will require the USB audio interface (included in optional equipment codes 6FL, 6NK or 6NL) as well as the Control Display and iDrive. This offer is only available for selected vehicles manufactured after March 2010. Your vehicle can be updated provided that you have the ‘Software update’ option on your ‘Settings’ menu in the Control Display

So if I have the latest firmware...I am assuming the download was bad
iDrive software is different than the ConnectedDrive software. Goto your dealer and ask for a key printout. It'll tell you exactly what I-Level (software version) your car is currently running.

Updating the iDrive software is not user updatable. It has to be done with ISTA or WinKFP.
Dracon is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-01-2013, 09:04 PM   #12
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

My info box goes away when I view Map and I press idrive controller knob

I forgot to mention that my CIC head unit was replaced a month ago and it states in the service papers that they connected battery charger and "coded cic to vehicle"

So, I am now assuming I have the most up to date firmware
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 03:50 PM   #13
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

I contacted the dealer and here is what he said...

"For your production date vehicle the only way to update the navigation is to replace the disk with 2013. As far as updating the firmware, your vehicle has the latest version"

My car build date was 09/2009

So, here is the order of events... as I was driving down the streets the maps would not show accurately where the car was, brought car to dealer, they replaced the CIC headunit and re-programmed, then when I started the car it said enter code to start navigation...

Brought car back to dealer...it was there all day like 8 hrs and during that time they did not update the maps because they still say 2009, so they must have updated ECU, so I just dont know why I can't read the maps off the USB...

USB slot broken possibly?? OR is dealer telling me accurate information and I can only update via DVD eventhough I have the latest firmware and my car was made 09/2009

Thoughts?

Last edited by ajh77; 05-03-2013 at 04:06 PM.
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 06:37 PM   #14
Dracon
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Drives: 2006 330i E90
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Nashville, TN

Posts: 903
iTrader: (14)

You have to be able to update via USB. There is no DVD part number for 2013 maps.
Dracon is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 06:52 PM   #15
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

Well....the dealer is an @#$#$, he should know the 2013 maps don't come on DVD

Maybe there is something wrong with my USB port

Could my USB driver in the car need updating?

Any suggestions on how to proceed now?
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-05-2013, 02:17 PM   #16
ajh77
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 328i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: United States

Posts: 43
iTrader: (0)

Well FINALLY got my car to update via USB.

If you have problems get a Sandisk 32gb Cruzer Flsh Drive and install from that, if that does not work, then your firmware is out of date. Everyone here told me that my firmware was out of date and it was really the USB drive I was using the whole time..

None the less, thank you for all your assistance
ajh77 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-23-2013, 01:11 AM   #17
zyjro
New Member
 
Drives: Excellent car
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Melbourne

Posts: 5
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh77 View Post
Well FINALLY got my car to update via USB.

If you have problems get a Sandisk 32gb Cruzer Flsh Drive and install from that, if that does not work, then your firmware is out of date. Everyone here told me that my firmware was out of date and it was really the USB drive I was using the whole time..

None the less, thank you for all your assistance
How much the dealer charge you??
zyjro is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:05 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST