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      05-12-2013, 10:40 AM   #1
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SES, P203A code and debating extended warranty

Hey everyone,

SES light came on last night at 19K miles...P203A, so it looks like a sensor in the urea tank. Wondering if they will have to replace the entire tank? I'll take the car in on Tuesday.

This is my second SES light since owning the car, and my warranty expires at the end of September. I'm seriously contemplating getting the extended warranty, due primarily to the complex emissions system and it seems like all these parts are very expensive.

Thoughts? Anyone else already bought the warranty?

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      05-12-2013, 12:11 PM   #2
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I contemplated buying one, but decided against it after running some numbers. It might be good in your case (low miles).

1) WA State is a CA Emissions state (as is CA, of course), so emissions related problems (and yours is one) are covered out to 7/70K.
2) However, I drive 18K miles per year, and the additional coverage would have lasted only 1.5 years, as I would pass 100K miles way before 7 years.
3) The cost for the additional year (about) of coverage would then be over $1500, which is more than what one of the biggie problems costs to fix.

It wasn't worth it TO ME, since I could save the $2500 for the warranty and apply it to any repairs.
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      05-12-2013, 01:38 PM   #3
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Get the warranty, the UREA tank replacement costs about $7,000 and the tank is usually never in stock so you have to wait for BMW in Germany to make one.
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Holy S____!! Let me find out if that is what it is. The light went out this morning...but with my warranty running out, I definitely want to get anything else related taken care of.
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      05-12-2013, 04:24 PM   #6
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I also had problem earlier on with the SCR urea injection. IIRC, this was the same OBD P code as yours. The SA told me that the sensor is not available by itself, they have to replace the whole tank. The work was done under warranty.

I am doing around 12K miles per year and my warranty expire November 2013. I am planning to get the 7Y/100K miles Powertrain Plus warranty.

If you are interested in a BWM extended warranty, search this forum. You can get an warranty at a discount from out of town BMW dealers at a price much less than MSRP. To do the transaction, you have to send one car key by FedEx in order to check the mileage on the car.
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      05-15-2013, 04:28 PM   #7
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Car needs a new urea tank.

Just heard from the dealer. My car needs a new urea tank. ($1325 part, according to a friend who works at Dinan). Supposedly they will have the part tomorrow.

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...24&hg=16&fg=05

They also said anything emissions related is covered for 7/70 and being in CA, and CA being much more stringent, that typically, they "should" be able to get most parts covered for upwards of 10 yrs. (I'll believe that when I see it).
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I had that code with an injector min limit...they both went away on their own.

That just made up my mind...pony up for the extended warranty.
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Just heard from the dealer. My car needs a new urea tank. ($1325 part, according to a friend who works at Dinan). Supposedly they will have the part tomorrow.

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...24&hg=16&fg=05

They also said anything emissions related is covered for 7/70 and being in CA, and CA being much more stringent, that typically, they "should" be able to get most parts covered for upwards of 10 yrs. (I'll believe that when I see it).
Curious if this was covered under 7/70 in CA? I'm in the same boat with 67K miles.
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Get it... Just had my whole tank and carbon cleaning replaced under gold warranty plus injectors, sensors and so on. Currently in the green for warranty cost lol.
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Get it... Just had my whole tank and carbon cleaning replaced under gold warranty plus injectors, sensors and so on. Currently in the green for warranty cost lol.
Time for a meth kit, EGR, SCR and DPF deletes for you now.
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Time for a meth kit, EGR, SCR and DPF deletes for you now.
Won't that void the warranty ?
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Time for a meth kit, EGR, SCR and DPF deletes for you now.
Won't that void the warranty ?
Depends on your choices. I'd do these either way if I intend to keep the car beyond the warranty period.
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Depends on your choices. I'd do these either way if I intend to keep the car beyond the warranty period.
So, if you do all the deletes, there wouldn't be any sense in buying an extended warranty?
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Depends on your choices. I'd do these either way if I intend to keep the car beyond the warranty period.
So, if you do all the deletes, there wouldn't be any sense in buying an extended warranty?
Personally, I wouldn't.
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Personally, I wouldn't.
Just pray your injectors don't go!!! Those things are $850 a piece + labor!! But i was browsing UK forums, and didn't notice a high failure rate.
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woohoo Im glad Im coded out!!
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Time for a meth kit, EGR, SCR and DPF deletes for you now.
hehe no deletes yet. Meth maybe and EGR block yes. Those are removable haha.

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Just pray your injectors don't go!!! Those things are $850 a piece + labor!! But i was browsing UK forums, and didn't notice a high failure rate.
Euro standards for fuel tend to be higher hence there hasnt been failures that often.

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woohoo Im glad Im coded out!!
Did lenny take care of you at Renntech?
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I cannot use RENNtech since it is not performed by them Lenny did the job here in Puerto Rico and of course i signed the disclosure letter also
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I cannot use RENNtech since it is not performed by them Lenny did the job here in Puerto Rico and of course i signed the disclosure letter also
So he did it outside of the shop correct with a disclosure?
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the tune is his not RENNtech's and of course a disclosure ensued
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Time for a meth kit, EGR, SCR and DPF deletes for you now.
I am at 77k and have warranty until 100k on my 2011 335d. I just had the carbon cleaning, had all six injectors replaced last month, and over the past 18 months I've had a new tank put in, all kinds of sensors etc. I don't have all my paperwork but I'm sure I could get a copy from the dealer of work performed on the car since I purchased it.

I did plan, though I am questioning now, to keep the car for the long haul as I love it when it is running. I have never been a big modification person but really open to doing what is necessary to remove and/or disable the emissions elements that contribute to problems. There are many threads on deletes and reprograms but I hope you could clarify the items you mention above for what they do, difficulty of removing (bolts or modified parts), and if they are for performance or buildup/emissions-problem avoidance.
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