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      05-26-2013, 11:38 AM   #23
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+1 agree with you sharkbait.

In the comparison of the two you showed OP. You came out ahead. The Dinan system is not all show but rather much better then the other setup. The AFI DCI will have lots of heat soak. I would just save my money and stick to stock air box that came with car or find a pure Cold air intake like Dinan.

Some people have tested these on DYNO and only thing that is better then the stock is a proper cold air intake setup like the Dinan one. There are other companies that also make them.

To OP, I myself know a BMW master tech who takes care of my car. I wonder if it is the same guy. Anyways enjoy your E92 335i.......I love mine even though I have had it for 4 years now.


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More like the AFI DCI is The Gap! Two totally different leagues. One is carbon fiber, looks amazing and actually draws in cold outside air but costs a small fortune. The other doesn't look so hot and sucks in hot engine air but is cheap.
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bro..in all honesty.. i would say approx 96.4324% of the people in here would be.. actually no.. i would say.. 99.92425 % of the ppl in here would be effing ecstatic if that intake came with the car... Its a sexy beast. The cost per WHP gain is just not worth it for many... BUT shes def. a beauty! Look at the ER engine cover.. its not bad. add extra beauty to the engine lol

https://www.europeanautosource.com/p...gine-cover-n54

btw.. im fuckin jealous haha
That thing is sexy, but damn 300$ for something i will only see once a month hehehe. No thanx, Ya i bought my car preowned from a small dealer ship, didnt know until after i bought it came with the exhaust, intake , and some kind of lowering kit, all the stickers were removed so im not sure which ones they are. But i got lucky id say.

Anyways any idea what kind of crank power HP/TQ and Wheel power/TQ i would be making?

07 335i coupe.

-jb4-Map1
-All stock exhaust system except for Dinan muffler
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I know the car stock is 330Hp at crank 275-280 at wheels.
Probably 400hp maybe a little bit more
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      05-26-2013, 12:21 PM   #25
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Probably 400hp maybe a little bit more
In map1 without my downpipes installed yet ? You think I'd have that much at the crank ?
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      05-26-2013, 01:13 PM   #26
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In map1 without my downpipes installed yet ? You think I'd have that much at the crank ?
hey man... FYI.. whatever u have at the crank you have to give a 15-18 % drivetrain loss for at the wheel. Wheel horse power is what really matters as im sure you know...so if its 400 at the crank.. at 15% its only 340 at the wheel... which really isnt bad at all.. My personal goal is 400WHP!
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hey man... FYI.. whatever u have at the crank you have to give a 15-18 % drivetrain loss for at the wheel. Wheel horse power is what really matters as im sure you know...so if its 400 at the crank.. at 15% its only 340 at the wheel... which really isnt bad at all.. My personal goal is 400WHP!
I would say about the same here. What are you planning on doing to get there. I'm always in map1 since I didn't install my dp yet. To tell you the truth I don't feel the wooooooo! In HP increase I feel it just not like I was expecting an additional 50hp. Could something be wrong or is it just me ?
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Looks like you have Dinan carbon fiber strut brace as well??

Stop showing off and enjoy that thing!
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Looks like you have Dinan carbon fiber strut brace as well??

Stop showing off and enjoy that thing!
+11 lol
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The last thing u want to do on a turbo car is a hot air intake. You get what you pay for. Don't think I'd ever consider a straight dci as an upgrade.
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Dinan guy here. Damn you OP! I wish they made an CAI for N55- Steve, are you listening?
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The dinan intake is a beauty!
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To me Dinan is the only option. Just seems way over priced. I could see800. Double the price of the others. But 1200 is a lot. Do they ever run sales? Anyone know of any knock offs out there? Someone must have copied it.
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Dinan guy here. Damn you OP! I wish they made an CAI for N55- Steve, are you listening?
Sadly, the guys at Dinan told me a while back that there won't be an N55 CAI, primarily because their R&D testing showed no significant change in power vs stock. And just recently, they put their E92 N55 R&D vehicle up for sale on EBay which means their work on the N55 (for the non X-drive E9x) is pretty much done.
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I would say about the same here. What are you planning on doing to get there. I'm always in map1 since I didn't install my dp yet. To tell you the truth I don't feel the wooooooo! In HP increase I feel it just not like I was expecting an additional 50hp. Could something be wrong or is it just me ?
You should try Map 5 with 3 WOT runs in 3rd gear 3000/redline to setup the Map.

Map 1 is a very limited fixed boost map. Map 5 will self adjust to produce the best the car can run with the equipment & fuel available.

If you do set up Map5 then go to another Map it will lose its settings & have to be reset.
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Sadly, the guys at Dinan told me a while back that there won't be an N55 CAI, primarily because their R&D testing showed no significant change in power vs stock. And just recently, they put their E92 N55 R&D vehicle up for sale on EBay which means their work on the N55 (for the non X-drive E9x) is pretty much done.
Thanks for the info! Well, I guess we're pretty much done then. I'm plenty happy with the power I have.
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4 years is nothing man, I've had mine for over 6 years and I STILL love it just like I did on day 1. I plan on keeping it for as long as I can afford it, hopefully forever

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+1 agree with you sharkbait.

In the comparison of the two you showed OP. You came out ahead. The Dinan system is not all show but rather much better then the other setup. The AFI DCI will have lots of heat soak. I would just save my money and stick to stock air box that came with car or find a pure Cold air intake like Dinan.

Some people have tested these on DYNO and only thing that is better then the stock is a proper cold air intake setup like the Dinan one. There are other companies that also make them.

To OP, I myself know a BMW master tech who takes care of my car. I wonder if it is the same guy. Anyways enjoy your E92 335i.......I love mine even though I have had it for 4 years now.
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Anyone know of the cai has a float or something to prevent water ingestion of you go through a puddle up to the front bumper?
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Most of you know that i just joined the forum and have been getting lots of information thanks to you guys on my e92. My car has a Dinan exhaust and intake and i just installed a jb4 in it. What is the difference in the Dinan intake vs the Dual cone intake that most people install and is it worth changing over. I know these Dinan air intakes are about 1000$+ from Dinan.
Any dual cone intake is a way for your car to lose low-end torque. Install a DCI and watch your low-end vanish because of the high IATs in city traffic. I had the Injen intake which was very nice to look at, looks a lot better than the AFE. But the car was even more sluggish than with the stock intake in city traffic so I built myself a "Mr. 5" intake which is a sort of Dinan intake. Much better !

Keep your Dinan intake...it's the best intake you could have.
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Anyone know of the cai has a float or something to prevent water ingestion of you go through a puddle up to the front bumper?
No it does not have a float, yet to see that on an intake.
It does have a water shield to keep direct water ingestion to a minimum. I ran one for 3 years and never had an issue. By far the best intake on the market for this engine.
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Anyone know of the cai has a float or something to prevent water ingestion of you go through a puddle up to the front bumper?
Air takes the least resistant path, so if the bumper filter is immersed in water the intake will just suck air from the OEM filter and engine will not be harmed. And if it's just wet and not immersed in water a few (filtered) drops of water will not do anything to the engine.

However if you are still paranoid about it you can check out my intake:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8762970

This has the supplemental filter in the engine bay (in a closed box) so it is very unlikely for the filter to even be touched by water (given the least resistance path I mentioned above).
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In map1 without my downpipes installed yet ? You think I'd have that much at the crank ?
Yes you will map 1 is like a little over 400hp so with a intake and a little less restriction from the muffler im guessing 415hp
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