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View Poll Results: Which watch maker's design do you like best?
A. Lange & Sonne 18 7.83%
Audemars Piguet 36 15.65%
Bedat 0 0%
Bell & Ross 20 8.70%
Blancpain 6 2.61%
Breguet 4 1.74%
Breitling 63 27.39%
Cartier 18 7.83%
Chopard 7 3.04%
Concord 2 0.87%
Corum 4 1.74%
Frank Muller 5 2.17%
Hublot 36 15.65%
Patek Philippe 39 16.96%
Panerai 58 25.22%
Omega 64 27.83%
Ulysse Nardin 14 6.09%
Vacheron Constantin 7 3.04%
Timex 6 2.61%
Hamilton 10 4.35%
Citizen 14 6.09%
Seiko 8 3.48%
Movado 10 4.35%
Rolex 80 34.78%
Krieger 0 0%
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      08-10-2013, 01:19 AM   #155
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Thanks for pointing it out. Sorry, missed that post.

Can hardly go wrong if you get a Panarai. But ultimately the question would be if you give it to them for use (for a long time) or give it as something they will eventually sell.

Many people buy particular brands because of the high resale value of the watch. Some buy a watch because despite the low resale value, simply because they don't intend to sell. =)
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I am a big Rolex fan, but I would love a Cartier as more of a dress watch.

Audemars and Patek are obvious favorites for a true handmade piece, but I also like Panerai and a few Tag Heuer pieces as sport luxury pieces
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How can there be so little love for Breguet and Vacheron Constantin? They both make such awesome watches and are arguably half the quartet of the top four watch brands, the other two being PP and ALS.

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How can there be so little love for Breguet and Vacheron Constantin? They both make such awesome watches and are arguably half the quartet of the top four watch brands, the other two being PP and ALS.

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not as many people wear true dress watches as opposed to sport, and not in that price range?
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not as many people wear true dress watches as opposed to sport, and not in that price range?
I hear you. And that makes sense to me as well. Yet, then I look at the retarded number of votes for Patek Philippe. I say that because at the apex of the watch world are Patek, Vacheron, JLC, Breguet and A. Lange and Sohne.

Sure, other brands may from time to time time have products that wander into that rarefied air up there, but as brands that quintet stand alone and above the rest, including Rolex and Omega. Yes, one could arguably lump Audemars in with them and even a handful of boutique brands, along with the offerings of several individual watchmakers who are still alive.

I wish I had put JLC on the list, if only to see where they came out. But at the time, I already knew I was buying a JLC, so it didn't matter to me what folks might have thought about the brand. I can only wonder how many folks would sooner buy a Rolex XYZ over the competing JLC watch, even knowing that the JLC is more highly regarded and better finished and usually a bit less expensive.

Don't that that as a put down of Rolex. I'm not a Rolex hater; I just understand what it is and what it is not. There's no question that in at one situation -- Rolex Submariner -- basic upscale dive watch (not professional grade as is the Sea-Dweller) -- it's hard to find a comparable watch, yet JLC does offer one, as does Vacheron Constantin. Patek's and Audemars' comparably purposed items are priced well above the Submariner, so they aren't really considerations for many who might otherwise cross shop the brands.

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You are correct. No Casio.

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I have recently set my eye on Tag Heuer's Carrera Calibre 5 or 8. I know it looks bland on the pictures but they are beautiful in real life.
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I have recently set my eye on Tag Heuer's Carrera Calibre 5 or 8. I know it looks bland on the pictures but they are beautiful in real life.
I like the looks of the 8 better, and it doesn't look like some other brand's watch that quickly comes to mind. Anymore, there're almost no absolutely unique styles among the mainstream watchmakers, so I'm sure sooner or later one can find something that resembles it or that it resembles.

The 5 looks fine too, but a bit too much like an Omega Aqua Terra, but hopefully it's not as thick. They are both nice watches, but I will admit being partial to the co-axial 8500 inside the Omega. Seeing as both are around $4K (I think), I'd pick the Omega, mainly because that coaxial movement is thought in the league of great watches that include JLC and others, all more highly regarded than Rolex.

I'd nonetheless be very happy with the Tag. It's a very nice watch too and in truth if one isn't a "watchie" there's no good reason to prefer one over the other, aside from personal taste.

All the best and enjoy your new Tag.

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My vote goes to JLC as well. I don't own one yet but I have my eyes set on a Master Control Chronograph. Gotta sell the GMT first.
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My vote goes to JLC as well. I don't own one yet but I have my eyes set on a Master Control Chronograph. Gotta sell the GMT first.
Have you considered the JLC Reverso Duo? Not only does it offer dual time functionality, but if you set both sides of the watch to the same timezone, it's essentially two excellent, seminal watches, in one case. The two sides look different and it can be had on a bracelet or strap (black or brown are standard). It comes in a few sizes. The Reverso was and continues to be sports watch and thus carries the durability of such a thing. Styling wise, it stradles the line between what we today think of as dressy and sporty, whereas the Rolex GMT Master II is always a sport watch.

JLC's watch that is more like the GMT Master II is the Squadra Hometime which features and exhibition back, something one doesn't see on Rolexes as their movements are nothing to look at.

Price wise, all the JLC models are competitive with their Rolex counterparts, most often being a bit less expensive, while offering more "stuff" for the buck.



I'm not down on Rolex, I'm just more "up" on JLC, and especially when it comes to a dual timezone capability watch. The bracelet version offers the greatest flexibility style wise -- working for dress as well as casual -- because the bracelet looks, well, like a bracelet, and can thus be worn just like one in both casual and dress situations. With a brown strap, the watch is fine for anything but formal wear, unless one happens to wear dark chocolate brown-ish black, custom made (because there isn't such a thing offered off the rack...LOL) tuxedos.

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ill never forget one of my first bosses told me " tag makes $700 watches and $7000 watches.... i dont wear tags "
I have a pretty firm opinion of Tag watches and I have two of them that I like very much. One of those two -- an Aquaracer -- is a watch I wear often for any number of mundane activities. I'm certainly not a Tag-hater as former boss is. Actually, I'm not all that negative about any watch, even when a watch in question is one I don't want to own.

I shared my thoughts on Tag here -- http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=907804. Admittedly it's a position based on thought not passion. If one is just hellbent on having this or that Tag, there's no sense to my line of thinking. Pathos is always a better cause for a watch purchase than is logos.

The thing is that for me, Tag doesn't offer a watch that makes my blood boil, even though they make plenty that I think are nice/nice looking. And I know that all their watches are far more than adequately durable and reliable. Tag watches are very easy to own and live with. They don't challenge anyone's sensibilities, but then they aren't meant to. Yes, I'm sure there must be one or two that are on the more extreme end of things, at least from a Tag perspective, but as a brand, that's not where Tag is.

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whats the skinny on Zenith watches? some of them are ridic'
Zenith make very good watches overall. One of the ones that's received a good deal of acclaim for it's mechanical accomplishment is the El Primero tricolor chrono one they have out right now. I think it's butt ugly, but I know it's a very well designed (functionally) well made and well engineered, watch.

For a time, Rolex used Zenith's chrono movement in its Daytona line of watches. Regardless of what one thinks about Rolex, they consistently make/offer very reliable products that last without trouble for years. If nothing else, it's safe to assume that if one upper tier watch company employs a movement made by another upper tier watchmakers, that movement is good solid one that is worthy of respect. That must be so for no company, regardless of their market position, would risk their reputation on someone else's product if that product weren't up to snuff. And most certainly not Rolex, although PP, VC, JLC and many others wouldn't either.

The main thing I think about Zenith is that they are a company that hasn't done much with their movements in a long time. That's good and it's bad. It's good because the ones one most often encounters are rock solid and time has shown that to be so. It's bad because it hardly makes paying a huge premium for them worth doing so. If I see one at an excellent discounted price, it'd be well worth getting. At full price, I'd look elsewhere. Again, that's a logically based perspective and not everything about watch purchases is, or needs to be, logical.

This is the tri-color El Primero that I think is horrible looking. Others like it, however. Suum cuique. That said, if one is specifically seeking a Zenith or a chrono, the El Primero is well worth considering, and the same watch without the three colors is just fine. Ideally one would choose the striking tenth version, but the standard one is quite a fine piece too and it comes in a host of sizes from 38mm to 42mm (so far as I know).



As a side note, several of the top tier makers have/do use JLC movements in their pieces, be they straight drop ins or modified versions. Among the top makers that have used JLC's movements are Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, and IWC as well as Vacheron Constantin.

If there were going to be a "holy trinity" of watchmakers, it'd arguably be PP, JLC and VC, or it'd be PP, Breguet and VC. The only thing being that there's no justifiable reason, other than that a trinity has three members, to leave Breguet or JLC out of the group, so there's not really a "holy trinity." Because of JLC's very reasonable pricing, it's a real darling of a watch to buy right now.

Short of just liking the look of someone else's watch better, I can see only one reason to choose a different brand over JLC at the moment. That reason is movement finishing. But the truth is that to get better finishing in a comparable watch, one has to pay tons more. Consider the JLC MUT against any Calatrava/Gondolo, Classique or Patrimony and you are talking roughly $5K to $15K more, but you will get more refined looking movements, even if the engineering and durability are no different.
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^ Just a quick side note on the fact that Rolex used Zenith movements in the Daytona. Rolex actually changed about 50% of the movement (reengineered it), so it is a movement based on a Zenith movement.

That being said: My vote goes for Rolex. Fatastic timepieces with stellar quality. I wore a Sub Date for 10 years and it never missed a beat, plus I sold it for a profit.
Now I own two Daytona's (white & black face SS) and a Hulk Sub Date.

Before all the negative comments come in, I own a Bell & Ross BR01-92 PVD and a Paneria 111 also.
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^ Just a quick side note on the fact that Rolex used Zenith movements in the Daytona. Rolex actually changed about 50% of the movement (reengineered it), so it is a movement based on a Zenith movement.

That being said: My vote goes for Rolex. Fatastic timepieces with stellar quality. I wore a Sub Date for 10 years and it never missed a beat, plus I sold it for a profit.
Now I own two Daytona's (white & black face SS) and a Hulk Sub Date.

Before all the negative comments come in, I own a Bell & Ross BR01-92 PVD and a Paneria 111 also.
Let's both hope they don't. Objective observations and facts as you offered above, are welcomed and good for everyone -- learning, sharing, etc. -- but just bashing something for no tangible reason is puerile and really has no place in a forum of adults.

I like the Sub (and its Sea-Dweller offspring) as well. For a long time, it's been a very hard watch to beat, and one with few real direct competitors. Consider what choices one has as alternatives to a Sub, and the consider when they came into being. There simply aren't that many alternatives, even now, yet there are a few.

Submariner Date or No Date -- Alternatives much have the following traits:
  • In-house movement with a proven track record for durability and reliability
  • 38 to 42 mm diameter
  • Bracelet version if the alternative comes in both strap and bracelet variants
  • Same dial general color as one offered by Rolex ideally, but if not, fine
  • Must be a dive watch
  • Price Range: $7500 to $9000 (give or take about $500)
  • Uncomplicated watch, but dates are acceptable
  • Chronometer or a non-debatable track record of producing at least chronometer-level performance
  • New watch sold by an AD or grey market (not eBay) seller and accompanied by either the manufacturer's or seller's warranty (not pre-owned)
  • Not a limited edition watch
If I'm thinking of a one to one comparison, the JLC Navy Seals, Vulcain, Omega Seamaster (which isn't a pure manufacture watch, but is more than competent enough to be a competing item), Breitling, Ulysse Nardin and Clerc are all that come to mind.


The thing is that when one considers them, even ignoring a need to be price equivalent, what one finds is:

  • UN - in-house requires a chronograph watch (UN-118), so not a direct comparison to a Sub.
  • Breitling - Super Ocean watch is ETA inside; their B01 movement -- a chrono -- is a fitting competitor to the Daytona, but not a Sub.
  • JLC - meets the requirements and sturdy enough but not their best work, even if it's a solid desk diver and good looking enough.
  • Vulcain - meets the criteria. It's a quality piece.
  • Omega - a genuine item that is a very fair competitor to the Sub. Should be okay on reliability if one gets the 8500 co-ax movement, but the 2500 co-axial is the horological analogue to the N54 engine in the E9x cars we love, and Omega did exactly what BMW did: issue an updated variant ASAP.
  • Clerc - a very worthy competitor, able to hold its own with the Sub and the SD. They are a boutique brand that's been around since the 1870s, but were largely unknown until 1997 when the current generation of the family took a more active interest in upping the brand's recognition and profits, no doubt. All the same, they have achieved some horological innovations that are noteworthy. The look is very different from that of the Sub, but suum cuique, the point is to find a comparable product, not one that looks just like a Sub.
Now while I have no reservation about the Clerc; it's a casual/sport watch just as any dive watch is. But I know many folks will wear Subs with suits, and some will even try to pull off a James Bond and wear it with a tux. Regardless of what I think about that, I can see damn well that the Clerc is less able to do double duty. The JLC isn't quite as sartorially versatile as the Sub, and with its extra crown, neither is the Seamaster Planet Ocean.

So, yes, tons of folks will rag on the Rolex Sub for any number of reasons, I have yet to see on credible, objective argument against it, aside from individuals' simply preferring something else due to the common price variance. I'd venture to say the same of Rolex's Datejust models as well insofar as for a semi-dress styled daily wearer, it's hard to beat.

No, Rolex don't have the absolute best movements in the world; other folks offer ones that are far more refined. Rolex having the most reliable movements in the word; plenty of ETA and other folks movements are just as long lasting and tolerant of abuse. What Rolex does have, however, is the best compromise of features -- looks, reliability, proven and deserved reputation, and price (if one considers that one Rolex Sub can give one the wearability of one true dive watch and one semi-dress watch) -- when compared against a great many directly competitive products.

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Let's both hope they don't. Objective observations and facts as you offered above, are welcomed and good for everyone -- learning, sharing, etc. -- but just bashing something for no tangible reason is puerile and really has no place in a forum of adults.

I like the Sub (and its Sea-Dweller offspring) as well. For a long time, it's been a very hard watch to beat, and one with few real direct competitors. Consider what choices one has as alternatives to a Sub, and the consider when they came into being. There simply aren't that many alternatives, even now, yet there are a few.

Submariner Date or No Date -- Alternatives much have the following traits:
  • In-house movement with a proven track record for durability and reliability
  • 38 to 42 mm diameter
  • Bracelet version if the alternative comes in both strap and bracelet variants
  • Same dial general color as one offered by Rolex ideally, but if not, fine
  • Must be a dive watch
  • Price Range: $7500 to $9000 (give or take about $500)
  • Uncomplicated watch, but dates are acceptable
  • Chronometer or a non-debatable track record of producing at least chronometer-level performance
  • New watch sold by an AD or grey market (not eBay) seller and accompanied by either the manufacturer's or seller's warranty (not pre-owned)
  • Not a limited edition watch
If I'm thinking of a one to one comparison, the JLC Navy Seals, Vulcain, Omega Seamaster (which isn't a pure manufacture watch, but is more than competent enough to be a competing item), Breitling, Ulysse Nardin and Clerc are all that come to mind.


The thing is that when one considers them, even ignoring a need to be price equivalent, what one finds is:

  • UN - in-house requires a chronograph watch (UN-118), so not a direct comparison to a Sub.
  • Breitling - Super Ocean watch is ETA inside; their B01 movement -- a chrono -- is a fitting competitor to the Daytona, but not a Sub.
  • JLC - meets the requirements and sturdy enough but not their best work, even if it's a solid desk diver and good looking enough.
  • Vulcain - meets the criteria. It's a quality piece.
  • Omega - a genuine item that is a very fair competitor to the Sub. Should be okay on reliability if one gets the 8500 co-ax movement, but the 2500 co-axial is the horological analogue to the N54 engine in the E9x cars we love, and Omega did exactly what BMW did: issue an updated variant ASAP.
  • Clerc - a very worthy competitor, able to hold its own with the Sub and the SD. They are a boutique brand that's been around since the 1870s, but were largely unknown until 1997 when the current generation of the family took a more active interest in upping the brand's recognition and profits, no doubt. All the same, they have achieved some horological innovations that are noteworthy. The look is very different from that of the Sub, but suum cuique, the point is to find a comparable product, not one that looks just like a Sub.
Now while I have no reservation about the Clerc; it's a casual/sport watch just as any dive watch is. But I know many folks will wear Subs with suits, and some will even try to pull off a James Bond and wear it with a tux. Regardless of what I think about that, I can see damn well that the Clerc is less able to do double duty. The JLC isn't quite as sartorially versatile as the Sub, and with its extra crown, neither is the Seamaster Planet Ocean.

So, yes, tons of folks will rag on the Rolex Sub for any number of reasons, I have yet to see on credible, objective argument against it, aside from individuals' simply preferring something else due to the common price variance. I'd venture to say the same of Rolex's Datejust models as well insofar as for a semi-dress styled daily wearer, it's hard to beat.

No, Rolex don't have the absolute best movements in the world; other folks offer ones that are far more refined. Rolex having the most reliable movements in the word; plenty of ETA and other folks movements are just as long lasting and tolerant of abuse. What Rolex does have, however, is the best compromise of features -- looks, reliability, proven and deserved reputation, and price (if one considers that one Rolex Sub can give one the wearability of one true dive watch and one semi-dress watch) -- when compared against a great many directly competitive products.

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Fantastic write-up and comparison! Plus adding some other brands that most people don't think of.

Clerc is a very cool watch, but as you said, probably not able to pull-off dual-duty between casual and formal.

I do like Omega quite a bit. They have great styles and a very good movement.

The B01 is Breitlings first in-house movement (BR01) in 2009. Personally, I only like the B01. Other Breitlings just don't do it for me.

For most watch wearers, it's about asthetics and reliability. So far for me, Rolex offers everything I'm looking for, especially the Daytona. The alloy used in the Rolex spring actually helps to counter-act gravity and is not affected by magnetism.
I was invited to a Rolex party at my local AD and the regional rep was there. I was the only person present that actually wore my Daytona when I raced and was into racing. We had some very good conversations about racing and all the racers who love them (and whom he was able to meet and interact with).
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Fantastic write-up and comparison! Plus adding some other brands that most people don't think of.

Clerc is a very cool watch, but as you said, probably not able to pull-off dual-duty between casual and formal.

I do like Omega quite a bit. They have great styles and a very good movement.

The B01 is Breitlings first in-house movement (BR01) in 2009. Personally, I only like the B01. Other Breitlings just don't do it for me.

For most watch wearers, it's about asthetics and reliability. So far for me, Rolex offers everything I'm looking for, especially the Daytona. The alloy used in the Rolex spring actually helps to counter-act gravity and is not affected by magnetism.
I was invited to a Rolex party at my local AD and the regional rep was there. I was the only person present that actually wore my Daytona when I raced and was into racing. We had some very good conversations about racing and all the racers who love them (and whom he was able to meet and interact with).
TY. I appreciate your having taken the time to read it. I forgot to specifically discuss the Vulcain watch, but the short is is that it suffers from the same aesthetic drawbacks as the Clerc: not able to do double duty.

In truth, if I were buying a purpose-only dive watch, because I had a genuine need for such a thing, I might choose either over a Rolex Sub, or a far less expensive watch that is made expressly for divers, maybe UTS or something. Thankfully, true divers don't actually have to spend $7K to get a a very, very capable dive watch. That's probably just as well since most divers aren't likely keen to spend that much for a watch when they have plenty of dive gear they need to spend it on. LOL

The reality for me, one who will never dive below 100 feet - and most likely not below 50 feet -- and I suspect for many others, is that a Sub tends to be a watch folks buy long before they find out there is actually a watch or two that can hold it's own against the Sub as a sport watch for diving. Then, years later when they find out about Clerc, Vulcain and even a few more boutique brands that I can't think of surely offer something comparable. But then that's the problem isn't it? Who the hell can think of them and why try so damn hard to do so when the Sub is such a damn good choice to begin with?

Omega:
Yes, Omega's 8500 co-axial movement is sometimes touted as being in the league of movements of the JLC, VC and PP ilk. Just stay away from the 2500 co-ax and it's chrono sibling. There's no shortage of folks, and even in the horological press, moaning about how the things are literally "up and dying" on them. It's no secret that the 2500 was a bit rushed to market; the issues being reported are likely the consequence of that haste. Folks don't seem to be having the same issues with the 8500, so it seems the sins of the 2500 are forgiven, even if there are still plenty of them on the market.

The benefits that accrue from the design of the co-axial escapement are obvious, even if they come at the expense of thinness. We're in a "big watch" era where watches apparently have to match the corpulence of their owners. That is what it is. Eventually folks will get back to normal size and so will watches. By then something else will have come along.

Aesthetics and reliability:
I have to say first that if one is really seeking a dive watch, this is one indispensable site: http://oceanictime.blogspot.com/

Hell, those are the two primary factors for me. I will say that if manufacture movements aren't critical, the Tudor Pelagos is a damn fine watch, and arguably a better machine, but it'll have ETA inside. Since Rolex own Tudor, there's a lot of overlap in the execution process. Indeed, vintage Tudoer (1990 or older) the case and bracelet are Rolex cases and bracelets. The fact that back then a Tudor was literally a Rolex with an ETA movement inside had a lot to do with why Tudor didn't really come into it's own: it was seen as the poor man's Rolex, even if the price wasn't anywhere near something a poor man could afford. Rolex finally has figured out that while others can clone their products and do so profitably for thousands less, Rolex can't clone itself for the price of a Seamaster and think people will buy it. Tudor is now coming into its own.

Vintage Tudor


Tudor Pelagos - You can see Tudor really put a lot of thought into this watch. For example they deliberately don't use a pearl in the little triangle on the bezel. Why? Because the damn things fall out. I know for a fact that's exactly what happens too. They use matte surfaces to keep reflectivity down and legibility high. No, it doesn't have the cyclops, but then neither does a Sea-Dweller.


Marcello C makes a very nice Rolex homage for about $1000 to $1500. Debaufre used to but they appear to have gone belly up. Still if one can find a "new, old stock" Debaufre, it's a great low price ($700 or less) alternative. Steinhart's Ocean is another maker who puts out a quality product with the right look with an ETA 2824-2 inside. Nivrel is yet another good alternative carrying ETA inside. Ditto Davosa. For folks who want the Sub look without the price and who don't care about much beyond the look and that the thing will run reliably, any one of these watches is more than fine.

And, of course, there is always the option of buying a pre-owned Sub. Since the movement hasn't changed one bit since about 1990 for the no-date and 1988 for the date version. The basic style has been constant for even longer.

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i'm far from a watch aficionado, but i can't help but to buy Invictas...

their bulky designs and details in the cases make me feel a kind of way....

these 3 watches are the only watches i have purchased since 1998....

again, i'm no watch expert but i really enjoy the Invicta line...

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