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      07-31-2013, 09:48 AM   #463
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any updates?
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      07-31-2013, 09:57 AM   #464
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any updates?
Yup, the E90 platform has been retired
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      07-31-2013, 10:51 AM   #465
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maybe now with the open flash something can be possible? lets ask terry
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      07-31-2013, 11:13 PM   #466
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      08-01-2013, 08:02 AM   #467
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Yup, the E90 platform has been retired
so because they now have the f30 nobody makes new parts for the e90 that's what your saying? that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard.
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      08-01-2013, 08:14 AM   #468
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so because they now have the f30 nobody makes new parts for the e90 that's what your saying? that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard.
No, the dumbest thing I ever heard was people consistently resurrecting a 3-year-old thread where there is SO little interest in the product being requested in the first place that now that the E90 platform has been retired, there's even less of a chance of getting something developed (not that there was much chance in the past).

People who wanted RWD bought RWD. Stop whining and move on. Neither Terry nor OpenFlash will make a hack for people to make the xi a RWD car, because quite simply, the ten or so people who actually care will probably have moved on to three newer model cars since then.

To put it concisely: in the three years of this thread, have YOU seen anything other than "pull a fuse and drive around like a retard with your wipers blasting"? No. Did the people who actually did this go on to drive like this on a daily basis? No. Do you think, if Terry, Shiv, the GIAC guys or anyone else really cared, there might have been at least one post by them? Yes, and so, no--they don't care. Do you think now that the E90 is dead they will go out and spend a bunch of money developing a whole new tune for the decreasing number of people who still own one? No.

Not sure if you see a pattern there.
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      08-01-2013, 08:47 PM   #469
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Agreed! I've been monitoring this thread for almost its entire little life. You could probably pick up a nice used RWD 335i for drifting, etc. for $15K or so.
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      08-02-2013, 05:49 AM   #470
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No, the dumbest thing I ever heard was people consistently resurrecting a 3-year-old thread where there is SO little interest in the product being requested in the first place that now that the E90 platform has been retired, there's even less of a chance of getting something developed (not that there was much chance in the past).

People who wanted RWD bought RWD. Stop whining and move on. Neither Terry nor OpenFlash will make a hack for people to make the xi a RWD car, because quite simply, the ten or so people who actually care will probably have moved on to three newer model cars since then.

To put it concisely: in the three years of this thread, have YOU seen anything other than "pull a fuse and drive around like a retard with your wipers blasting"? No. Did the people who actually did this go on to drive like this on a daily basis? No. Do you think, if Terry, Shiv, the GIAC guys or anyone else really cared, there might have been at least one post by them? Yes, and so, no--they don't care. Do you think now that the E90 is dead they will go out and spend a bunch of money developing a whole new tune for the decreasing number of people who still own one? No.

Not sure if you see a pattern there.
Yeah I agree with most of this, except that it turns out the electronics and computers running the AWD is so f*cking complicated and interwoven with everything else that what sounds easy (a little box to turn off transfer case) is insanely hard. I think a product that did it would sell well, just turns out you have to deal with all the intertwining layers of traction control, abs, DTC/DSC, DBC, e-diff etc etc and it is a giant mess. A lot of smart people with skills have looked at this and apparently given up.

Furthermore, like the the automatic transmission, the software controlling the AWD DSC etc systems may be (probably is) encrypted. You know NO ONE has hacked the TCU yet in AT cars? The only mod out there is Alpina B3 flash. There would be a huge market for TCU reflash like a CObb unit for the TCU. Where is it? It is not because people are lazy or no business case for it, it is because it is too hard.

Hell a reflash of the AWD system may be the right way to go but like I said, if the AT is hard the AWD/DSC/ABS/DBC rat's nest of layered system code is going to be 10 times harder.
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Agree - all fair points, but the ECU was hard to reflash too, but the market was strong enough that Cobb did it. But it applied to all 335s sold. Here, we're dealing with time primarily (since they're slowly being traded to third owners), and market penetration (how many xi's sold north of like ... DC? I find cars in the US don't even have heated seats, much less AWD, hehe). But on top of that, drivers have to actually want that and want to pay - if I still had mine, I'd consider it a gimmick and want to give Cobb, say, 100 bucks for the novelty factor - but I wouldn't track with it, for instance, as I enjoy what AWD does for me for tracking.

Complicated issue, for sure, but one I'm afraid we'll see no resolution to.
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      08-02-2013, 09:25 AM   #472
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Yeah you are probably right about it not materializing. Certainly not at a reasonable price point. People will pay $700 retail for a Cobb but that unlocks 100+ WHP/WTQ. No way they pay that to turn off AWD that they already paid extra for.
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      08-04-2013, 11:01 PM   #473
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No, the dumbest thing I ever heard was people consistently resurrecting a 3-year-old thread where there is SO little interest in the product being requested in the first place that now that the E90 platform has been retired, there's even less of a chance of getting something developed (not that there was much chance in the past).

People who wanted RWD bought RWD. Stop whining and move on. Neither Terry nor OpenFlash will make a hack for people to make the xi a RWD car, because quite simply, the ten or so people who actually care will probably have moved on to three newer model cars since then.

To put it concisely: in the three years of this thread, have YOU seen anything other than "pull a fuse and drive around like a retard with your wipers blasting"? No. Did the people who actually did this go on to drive like this on a daily basis? No. Do you think, if Terry, Shiv, the GIAC guys or anyone else really cared, there might have been at least one post by them? Yes, and so, no--they don't care. Do you think now that the E90 is dead they will go out and spend a bunch of money developing a whole new tune for the decreasing number of people who still own one? No.

Not sure if you see a pattern there.
Well I'm still interested and I don't think other people would be consistently resurrecting it if there was no interest. What's it to you anyways?
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Well I'm still interested and I don't think other people would be consistently resurrecting it if there was no interest. What's it to you anyways?
I agree.

I think the interest will be more accurately measured by looking at how many that has been reading this thread and not how many that has been posting.

I have been reading this thread for years with my fingers crossed hoping...
This is my first post.

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      08-10-2013, 12:51 AM   #475
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I'll get in this tomorrow. It should be as simple as looking at a wiring diagram for the wipers and finding the corresponding wires. You'll need a switch that can open two separate circuits simultaneously wired in series with that fuse and wiper motor power. Getting rid of the errors is a different story...
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I'll get in this tomorrow. It should be as simple as looking at a wiring diagram for the wipers and finding the corresponding wires. You'll need a switch that can open two separate circuits simultaneously wired in series with that fuse and wiper motor power. Getting rid of the errors is a different story...
That is how I was going to do it with Cobb flash only.. It will work fine..

Now if you have a JB4 that is not going to work.. As soon as the jb4 sees all the fault codes it cuts all boost and puts car in limp mode
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I'll get in this tomorrow. It should be as simple as looking at a wiring diagram for the wipers and finding the corresponding wires. You'll need a switch that can open two separate circuits simultaneously wired in series with that fuse and wiper motor power. Getting rid of the errors is a different story...
That is how I was going to do it with Cobb flash only.. It will work fine..

Now if you have a JB4 that is not going to work.. As soon as the jb4 sees all the fault codes it cuts all boost and puts car in limp mode
That is an issue.
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any way that i can mute this thread so that it doesnt keep popping up at the top of the section haha?
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      08-12-2013, 11:32 PM   #479
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any way that i can mute this thread so that it doesnt keep popping up at the top of the section haha?
Not posting in it helps lol
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      08-14-2013, 03:06 PM   #480
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I just bought my 2007 328xi 2 months ago and I would definitly be interested in a product that could act as a switch for me. I got excited by the idea...
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      08-19-2013, 07:57 PM   #481
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I'd be willing to contribute some funds, JB4 option would be nice though!!
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      08-21-2013, 12:18 AM   #482
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We just need a pro to look into it. Honestly if you think about it, what haven't people done to their cars? I'm no mechanic nor an engineer but I think that if someone actually looks into it, they can get it done.

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+1 for interest in a solution.

For the posters who claimed there's little interest, there's 22 pages to this thread. Just because a platform is old doesn't mean there's no love. People still race old MGs, all years of 3 series, 90s Hondas, etc, etc. Don't hate.
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+1 for interest in a solution.

For the posters who claimed there's little interest, there's 22 pages to this thread. Just because a platform is old doesn't mean there's no love. People still race old MGs, all years of 3 series, 90s Hondas, etc, etc. Don't hate.
22 pages of people saying "want!", but not a single post of anyone offering any solution. be fair.
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