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Winter Tire Sticky Thread for 2013-2014 Season
|09-18-2013, 08:41 AM||#1|
Drives: Formerly 1995 M3
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ
Winter Tire Sticky Thread for 2013-2014 Season
--The basics :
Get snow tires appropriate to your climate and driving style. If you don't see much snow during the winter, and you like to drive/corner fast on cold dry roads then look into the H-rated or V-rated "high performance" winter tires like the Bridgestone Blizzak LM32, Dunlop Winter Sport 4D or the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4.
If your area gets heavier snow or you just really want some extra confidence when conditions are at their worst, then look into a more aggressive snow tire. Among the best of this type are the Blizzak WS-70, Michelin XI3 , and Continental Extreme Winter Contact. Winter tires like these will offer the best in snow and ice traction, but will give up some dry road responsiveness over the more performance - oriented H/V rated snow tires to get that additional winter traction.
You may want to lean towards one of the more aggressive snow tires like those listed above if one or more of the following are true :
-Your geographical area gets heavy snowfall and/or lake effect snow
-You are often driving on packed snow and ice
-You are just willing to give up some dry grip and steering response for maximum safe winter traction
-These tires are for a newer driver or for a driver who needs much more confidence when driving in winter conditions.
Choosing between these two categories may be difficult and is mostly a personal preference choice for the trade off between snow traction versus dry road handling. However it is important to keep in mind what your worst conditions will be as that is the time when you'll need the traction the most! Driving on a dry road is pretty easy, it is when the weather gets rough that things get more challenging.
--New/Updated this season and reminders from last season :
In most sizes , the Michelin XI3 is replacing the Michelin XI2. The tread pattern is very similar between the two. There are a bit more independent tread blocks so I would expect a modest improvement in snow/ice traction from the previous model with a slight step down in dry road handling. Initial feedback from last season has been very good on this tire. The Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 has replaced the Pilot Alpin PA3. For this year, the Dunlop Winter Sport 4D replaces the Winter Sport 3D in the three most popular winter tires sizes of 225/40R18, 225/45R17 and 205/55R16.
Also new this season is Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32. A couple seasons ago the Blizzak LM60 replaced the old Blizzak LM25. While the LM60 did indeed have better ice and snow traction than the old LM25, many drivers of higher performance vehicles did miss the better handling and faster steering response that the LM25 provided. Those drivers now have an excellent choice with the new Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32. The Blizzak LM-32 moves that balance back towards the handling and dry grip side, putting it back in competition with the newest generation of high performance winter tires like the Dunlop Winter Sport 4D and Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4.
The popular European made Rial Salerno wheels are still available in both anthracite and silver. The cost effective Sport Edition A7 is available in both silver and black.
Will 17" wheels fit over the brakes on my 335i? What about Sport or M-Sport models?
While most 17" wheels do NOT fit the 335i, there are some models of wheels we carry that will clear the brakes and work well. Two of the more popular choices have been the Sport Edition A7 and Rial Salerno. View the complete list of 17" that fit, and current prices here : http://www.tirerack.com/snow/changeo...?affiliate=AH8 . Just enter the year and model of car, then select 17" packages.
Do I have to buy runflat winter tires or can I use non runflat tires? What about TPMS sensors?
Its completely up to you. You can use either run flat or non runflat tires for winter. The runflat versions tend to cost more and ride a bit more stiffly, but not to the point where most would find them harsh as these are much softer riding than summer tires. Keep in mind that the vehicle has no spare tire. You can search the forum for possible solutions like a spare tire kit (we don't sell one, sorry), but most using non runflats either simply run without a spare or use one of their summer wheels/tires in the trunk, or a can of fix-a-flat.
Sensors are available through us, roughly $50 per corner including valve stems as of this post. If you purchase them at the same time as your tire wheel package, we will mount them in the wheels for no charge. You can activate your sensors by following simple instructions in your owners manual. Please note that due to liability issues and recent NHTSA documents, if you do not purchase TPMS sensors with a tire and wheel package you will need to answer 'yes' when asked if you plan to purchase sensors locally.
Which 17" winter wheels accept BMW center caps? How can I get BMW caps added to my order?
The Sport Edition A7, Elbrus I08 and Rial Salerno are the three most popular and readily available winter wheels that accept BMW center caps. I can include BMW center caps on your order for $17 each - simply refer to "Gary/add caps17" as your previous contact at the end of your online order, or call in the order to me directly.
I'm just going to mount tires on my factory 18" Sport wheels because I have aftermarket wheels for summer or just don't want to buy another set of wheels. Can I use 225/40R18 on all four wheels even though the rear is now 255/35R18?
Yes, you can use 225/40R18 on both the front 8" wheels and the rear 8.5" OE wheels with no problem. This is actually very common to do. Eliminating the stagger in this way works very well for winter and results in better winter traction.
There are so many choices it is overwhelming! What are most doing? What do you recommend for a good package?
I would recommend 17" for winter use on the 335i using a 225/45R17 tire size on all four corners. There are handful of wheels we carry that will clear the brakes and work well. Two of the more popular choices have been the Sport Edition A7, and Rial Salerno. For maximum winter traction, consider the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-70 or Michelin XiceXi2. For more of a balance between winter traction and dry road handling/cornering check out the Bridgestone Blizzak LM60, or the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3.
--A final word of advice : Don't wait too long. Ordering early when most products are still available lets you choose what you want to buy rather than being forced to settle for what is left over. Best to be ready with products in hand before it snows so that you can put them on when you are ready rather than waiting for a shipment to arrive after the first snow. We should have most inventory available in early October. Tires and wheels purchased together are mounted and balanced at no charge to make changeover easy.
Here is a direct link to the winter tires area :
Don't forget to refer to 'Gary/E90Post' when you order online so that I can look over the order and get the forum credit for the sale.
F30 guys see this thread for some guidance on the newer body F30 3 series : http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=751199
Last edited by Gary@TireRack; 10-28-2013 at 10:52 AM.
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