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      09-30-2013, 12:08 AM   #287
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I have an 09 e90
For my car doesn't pop those settings just bass and treble??
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      09-30-2013, 11:55 PM   #288
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I have an 09 e90
For my car doesn't pop those settings just bass and treble??
Try scrolling to the right, there should be an "EQ SET" menu. If you don't have it, your car does not have the Harmon Kardon Logic7 Audio.
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      10-03-2013, 09:32 AM   #289
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Humm I though I did even if I have the 12 speakers
Yeah just the treble bass balance and fader show
I even have a Jl audio 4 channel powering and sound good
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      10-16-2013, 11:55 PM   #290
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2011 E91 w/ iDrive. Used the E90 settings and it sounds great. Thanks!
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Yes, I the TREB and BASS settings are "user definable" basically. You can adjust those to your liking. Usually people that crank their music higher will need to lower the TREB and BASS settings to prevent overbearing highs and lows, and most importantly, minimize distortion.

Often times I see people with BASS on +10, cranking it all up, speakers distorting like crazy, and they have the audacity to say "that sh** sounds dope huh?!!?!"
Can the E90 settings be used in a E60 with logic 7 with pre 2009 I drive aswell?
I would assume the settings would be close?
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      01-01-2014, 07:44 PM   #292
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Can anyone tell me the settings for a 2007 idrive? The older one. I dont have all those other fancy settings.
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      01-08-2014, 11:43 PM   #293
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Cool post but coming from someone who has studied audio (both analog and digital) EQing is all personal preference. You are essentially selecting frequency ranges to be more or less appealing to your own liking. Someone who likes Bass will want to crank up the lower frequencies (for Dubstep or hip hop for example) and someone who likes treble or detail ranges will want to crank up higher frequency ranges (for classical or jazz for example). I will say there is a "crunchy" range of frequencies between 800-1K Hz that commonly sounds poor to the majority of humans. Typically bumping down these frequencies will open up the audio horizon to more pleasing frequencies and make music as a whole more enjoyable. Great post!
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      01-26-2014, 11:51 AM   #294
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Cool post but coming from someone who has studied audio (both analog and digital) EQing is all personal preference. You are essentially selecting frequency ranges to be more or less appealing to your own liking. Someone who likes Bass will want to crank up the lower frequencies (for Dubstep or hip hop for example) and someone who likes treble or detail ranges will want to crank up higher frequency ranges (for classical or jazz for example). I will say there is a "crunchy" range of frequencies between 800-1K Hz that commonly sounds poor to the majority of humans. Typically bumping down these frequencies will open up the audio horizon to more pleasing frequencies and make music as a whole more enjoyable. Great post!
I'd be interested to see where you have your settings in your 328 (assuming you have HK).
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      01-26-2014, 11:56 AM   #295
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Cool post but coming from someone who has studied audio (both analog and digital) EQing is all personal preference. You are essentially selecting frequency ranges to be more or less appealing to your own liking. Someone who likes Bass will want to crank up the lower frequencies (for Dubstep or hip hop for example) and someone who likes treble or detail ranges will want to crank up higher frequency ranges (for classical or jazz for example). I will say there is a "crunchy" range of frequencies between 800-1K Hz that commonly sounds poor to the majority of humans. Typically bumping down these frequencies will open up the audio horizon to more pleasing frequencies and make music as a whole more enjoyable. Great post!
I'd be interested to see where you have your settings in your 328 (assuming you have HK).
If you'd like I could post my settings but like I said, EQing is mostly personal preference and will be different based on the general type of music you listen to. I use what is known as a "Happy face EQ" which bumps up high and low end frequency ranges and bumps down mid ranges. I listen to everything from electronica to classic rock to hip hop to good ol' Frank Sinatra. Since i listen to such a wide variety of music the "happy face EQ" is a happy medium of EQ for almost any genre.
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Yesterday I installed a set of SWS-8's. I tested them with the settings that I dialed in when I first got my car. The bass did seem a slight bit better. I then set my EQ settings posted by Malek on the first page of this thread. I must admit, the sound was fuller, but I lost the punch to my bass. Tomorrow I will get the OEM tweeter to add to the front center. Of course, that won't help my bass. I do have the Technic harness and a two channel amp to boost those SWS-8Xi's.
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      03-10-2014, 10:20 PM   #297
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Does anyone know if they settings work for the F32?
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      03-18-2014, 02:48 PM   #298
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If you'd like I could post my settings but like I said, EQing is mostly personal preference and will be different based on the general type of music you listen to. I use what is known as a "Happy face EQ" which bumps up high and low end frequency ranges and bumps down mid ranges. I listen to everything from electronica to classic rock to hip hop to good ol' Frank Sinatra. Since i listen to such a wide variety of music the "happy face EQ" is a happy medium of EQ for almost any genre.
Please do post your settings.. I'm also interested.
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What settings would you recommend for a 07 335i coupe? I have the Equalizer but no nav screen. I listen to mostly artists like Gucci Mane, Drake, The Weeknd, etc.
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      08-13-2014, 07:20 PM   #300
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Does anyone know if they settings work for the F32?
Has anyone tried them in an e93 as well? How did you fare out?
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      08-20-2014, 02:15 PM   #301
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Aren't the audio settings all up to personal preference/taste? Also, different kinds/types/genres of music may require different settings.

Why are we suggesting cookie cutter settings for everyone to use?

And who decided that these are the ideal settings?
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Aren't the audio settings all up to personal preference/taste? Also, different kinds/types/genres of music may require different settings.

Why are we suggesting cookie cutter settings for everyone to use?

And who decided that these are the ideal settings?
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Aren't the audio settings all up to personal preference/taste? Also, different kinds/types/genres of music may require different settings.

Why are we suggesting cookie cutter settings for everyone to use?

And who decided that these are the ideal settings?
Old thread I know but bumping because I am fiddling with audio settings in a couple of cars.

Of course you are right about individual preferences but ideally you start from a flat acoustic reproduction spectrum. Meaning you use a signal analyzer to compare input source spectrum to sound output spectrum at typical ear location. You then adjust where possible to get that as close to equal in each band, so that reproduced sound is as close to recorded sound as possible.

This nullifies peculiarities in the audio system components and cabin, so that the sound you hear is as close to that recorded as possible. Then you adjust up or down as needed from there. With the advent of many speaker systems and lots of sound processing, plus multiple adjustment bands, sometimes this is a hopeless task.

For example, go set all your logic 7 eq settings to to zero, and turn off sound all processing. Then try adjusting only treble and bass, see how good it sounds. (I just did this) It sucks! Then set it back to these. Much better. Not perfect but close to flat. Once you are close to flat you can even just adjust treble and/or bass up or down to suit instead of messing with sub-bands. I find these settings a bit too bright high end, so I lower treble little, esp playing off the hard disk with the digital compression algorithm distortion.

This is generally what an equalizer is for, compensating for environmental and installation/equipment acoustic deviations/variations from perfect reproduction. You need high quality mics to do it though and that is often not feasible for ordinary folks. What you are measuring in engineering terms is the acoustic transfer function from input (source material) to output (sound @ listener's ear location(s)), and you want those to be flat in each band. But as a starting point only.

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I tried the setting in this post, they sounded good when the car was stationary, but where completely useless when the car was moving. Road noise tramps some of the fine tuning and makes some frequencies disappear completely with the "optimal" setting. The default of the car actually sounds better with the car in motion.
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Old thread I know but bumping because I am fiddling with audio settings in a couple of cars.

Of course you are right about individual preferences but ideally you start from a flat acoustic reproduction spectrum. Meaning you use a signal analyzer to compare input source spectrum to sound output spectrum at typical ear location. You then adjust where possible to get that as close to equal in each band, so that reproduced sound is as close to recorded sound as possible.

This nullifies peculiarities in the audio system components and cabin, so that the sound you hear is as close to that recorded as possible. Then you adjust up or down as needed from there. With the advent of many speaker systems and lots of sound processing, plus multiple adjustment bands, sometimes this is a hopeless task.

For example, go set all your logic 7 eq settings to to zero, and turn off sound all processing. Then try adjusting only treble and bass, see how good it sounds. (I just did this) It sucks! Then set it back to these. Much better. Not perfect but close to flat. Once you are close to flat you can even just adjust treble and/or bass up or down to suit instead of messing with sub-bands. I find these settings a bit too bright high end, so I lower treble little, esp playing off the hard disk with the digital compression algorithm distortion.

This is generally what an equalizer is for, compensating for environmental and installation/equipment acoustic deviations/variations from perfect reproduction. You need high quality mics to do it though and that is often not feasible for ordinary folks. What you are measuring in engineering terms is the acoustic transfer function from input (source material) to output (sound @ listener's ear location(s)), and you want those to be flat in each band. But as a starting point only.
Any settings you can share? I have an L7 LCI e90 and I moved on from the settings originally posted here because I don't believe there were any for the newer e90s.
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Any settings you can share? I have an L7 LCI e90 and I moved on from the settings originally posted here because I don't believe there were any for the newer e90s.
Sorry, have an 09 e92 L7 idrive. I used the updated settings in the first post as baseline and then adjust only bass and treble a bit depending on the music.
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      11-13-2014, 06:17 PM   #307
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Nice settings..,.

I use a Rockford fosgate Bluetooth in the lighter inside the console to Bluetooth to the radio and it sounds a lot cleaner this way.

A song like sweet emotion by Aerosmith sounds really really good at the beginning
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