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      11-16-2013, 08:42 PM   #2465
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taking pictures while driving. shame on you.

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lies.

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While I won't necessarily buy the CLA AMG, I really like the fact that it is bold, efficient and competitively priced. Faster on track and much cheaper than the previous 1M, nice seats, AWD, but it is fugly. Yes, statement of leading edge tech (highest hp/litre) is marketing, but at the same time it eats at competitor's psyche, he he. One more thing for them to worry about. I am happy because with it, the other offerings (BMW, Audi, Cadillac etc) would give consumers more for their money.

Yes, they all want to sell more, but to do that they need to become more desirable to more people and this includes targeting the competitor's niche and this also means one needs to challenge directly the others strength.

It is interesting that while Audis have become quite efficient, some of their offerings e.g. RS3 while quick on track does not drive well when pushed to the limit. I still clearly remember I wanted an RS4 so badly was selling for 100k. Once the new M3 or 335 (can't remember which) came out and destroyed it, performance wise and price wise it went the way of the dodo. Still, that RS4 was a great vehicle, hi-tech twin turbo V8 with 400 hp, variable turbo vanes etc. etc.

Mercedes then came along with a novel approach with the C63 AMG. Even if the car could not match the M3 in track driving precision and even lap times, it provided quite the thrill and new concept of cheaper power! (I know 65k is not cheap, but it was unthinkable to get 450hp at that price at the time from the Germans. They were known to make you pay for each additional hp, dearly I mean)

Having said all this, as you say, those cars have all gotten larger, fatter and heavier and more remote to what enthusiasts yearn for. Lightness before power, more luxury but not at the expense of driver engagement (filtering) etc etc.

Yes, BMW has seen the light about needing to shed weight, not that they have significantly done so, since the next M3 will still be in the neighbourhood of 3300 lbs (e46 territory). I would say they are the first out of Audi-Merc-BMW, but the concept started much earlier e.g. Porsche Cayman which kept it below 3000 lbs, and more recently the 2013 Toyobaru with their much much fun but underpowered 2700 lbs twin FRS/BRZ Even VW has lightened the Golf 7 by 200 lbs from the prior version Golf 6, and they were not 3600 lbs to begin with, so BMW's weight shedding is not ground breaking, they just should not have gotten that porky to begin with.

While it hasn't meant horrible products to date, on the contrary we've had great products, with remarkable improvements from the cars of 1980s, yes farther removed from what enthusiasts want, but the next few years promise to be quite exciting. Would you agree?

Fugly? ;( I just bought 1...couldn't resist, too sexy, cheaper than my 335..... of course, I had to have it white /black wheels etc.. exactly as pictured.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...YORK/130329844

P.S Nick?? You got an F30 328?? Never advertised my car on lease busters....so anyone looking for a f30 335 sport in un driven condition..lemme know
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Fugly? ;( I just bought 1...couldn't resist, too sexy, cheaper than my 335..... of course, I had to have it white /black wheels etc.. exactly as pictured.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...YORK/130329844
Nice

When are you taking delivery? I'd LOVE to see it. Likely next car when I get bored of this rare, unique, impossible to get BLUE GOLF.
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      11-19-2013, 09:12 AM   #2470
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WOWO!!! A blue golf RS? Verrrrry rare, have never seen 1 before. Would love to see you and George driving on the same street at the same time...would make an awesome picture My choice between March or May.



http://montreal.tv/portail/blog/2013...-au-6-octobre/

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WOWO!!! A blue golf RS? Verrrrry rare, have never seen 1 before. Would love to see you and George driving on the same street at the same time...would make an awesome picture My choice between March or May.



http://montreal.tv/portail/blog/2013...-au-6-octobre/
You've never seen a blue Golf R?!?

We need to hang out more. I need to meet more people who have not seen 50 of them, because Nick, Anthony, Jerry and the like will never stfu. :P

Maybe I should take a pic with George, especially on my winter wheels which look nicer than my summer ones
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      11-20-2013, 11:19 PM   #2472
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Speaking of which.... I saw a "Rare" blue Golf R today....


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      11-21-2013, 08:17 AM   #2473
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Speaking of which.... I saw a "Rare" blue Golf R today....


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I see 1 every day!!!!
(my neighbour has one ) lol!!!
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What happened to that meet we were supossed to have in Mirabel (at jerry`s restaurant, if im not mistaken)? It`d be a fun thing to do.
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What happened to that meet we were supossed to have in Mirabel (at jerry`s restaurant, if im not mistaken)? It`d be a fun thing to do.
I suggested the meet at Jerry's... No one showed interest so I went with Nikos335.
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Speaking of which.... I saw a "Rare" blue Golf R today....


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at least mine is the loudest of all the ones I've seen. Except this dude in the west island who has a 2-door one who has the same setup as me.
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      12-05-2013, 03:34 PM   #2477
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Dead thread... or maybe Ken can revive it with a brunch meet.
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      12-05-2013, 03:51 PM   #2478
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Ok. Saw this yesterday. I've been following DTM for a few months now. Great to see it up a little closer. Pretty darn good for Harris to be only down 1.5 seconds from Spenglers fastest time.

An awesome feat in carbon fibre. I can really appreciate the work gone into it.

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      12-05-2013, 07:03 PM   #2479
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Dead thread... or maybe Ken can revive it with a brunch meet.
Thread is on life support!

Time is lacking before the end of the year, won't work for me, not enough week end days.

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Ok. Saw this yesterday. I've been following DTM for a few months now. Great to see it up a little closer. Pretty darn good for Harris to be only down 1.5 seconds from Spenglers fastest time.

An awesome feat in carbon fibre. I can really appreciate the work gone into it.
That is not cheap
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Thread is on life support!

Time is lacking before the end of the year, won't work for me, not enough week end days.



That is not cheap
Smoke Meat Pete in the evening for some blues.

The amount of custom work on that DTM car is insane. Easily $500K in bespoke body work, excluding any R&D for aero. Serious business dollars going into each of the teams entries.

Speed Channel broadcasts this past summers DTM events on Saturday afternoons, along with Britsh GT and Aussie V8 series.

DTM 2014 Schedule
4th May Hockenheimring Baden-Württemberg (D)
18th May etropolis Motorsport Arena Oschersleben (D)
1st June Hungaroring Budapest (UNG)
29th June Norisring (D)
13th July Moscow Raceway (RUS)
3rd August Red Bull Ring Spielberg (A)
17th August Nürburgring (D)
14th September Lausitzring (D) *
28th September Guangzhou (CHN)
19th October Hockenheimring Baden-Württemberg (D)
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      12-06-2013, 01:23 PM   #2481
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New Track Thread 2014

Please save the new link.

CLICK THIS HERE!
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      12-06-2013, 09:00 PM   #2482
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      12-06-2013, 09:03 PM   #2483
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New Track Thread 2014

Please save the new link.

CLICK THIS HERE!
yay!

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Ken!!!, get in here.

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Looks really good. But BMW has fallen off the rocker with pricing. Did you know that a well-equipped 328i xDriive is 85K out the door? EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND. That's like....... more than the GTR used to cost when it came out. This is for a family sedan. Wtf?!
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Ken!!!, get in here.

Lol! saw that already
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