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      12-14-2013, 11:44 PM   #1
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F1 - double points idea

Whats everyones take on the new rule about double points for the last race of the season? at first i thought it was a good idea. Thinking about it now, it seems dumb, and takes away competition even further.

i found a petition to see if it can be revoked.

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petition...kedoublepoints
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      12-15-2013, 01:12 AM   #2
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Whats everyones take on the new rule about double points for the last race of the season? at first i thought it was a good idea. Thinking about it now, it seems dumb, and takes away competition even further.

i found a petition to see if it can be revoked.

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petition...kedoublepoints
Fucking sucks. Loser idea that takes away the hard-earned points leading up to the last race.
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      12-15-2013, 06:58 AM   #3
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Can't believe there's a driver on the grid that would want to claim a World Championship decided by the double points award. Stupid.
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      12-15-2013, 10:29 AM   #4
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About as ridiculous as Bernie's "turn on the sprinklers" idea from a couple of years ago.
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What makes the last race point score worth more than season opening?

This discourages well prepared teams having a great head start of the season. Who did the hard work in Winter break, who read the loop holes in the regulations, and made a more innovative design.

Horrible idea, given the last race of 2014 will be in Abu Dhabi, which RBR has strong performance every year there. So the FIA/FOM might've just shoot themselves in the foot. By trying to introduce double point final race for someone to catch up with RBR, might as well give more points to them.
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What's next? If you're leading the championship, you automatically start from last place on every race?
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      12-15-2013, 01:53 PM   #7
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This is just a dumbass reaction to an extraordinary driver like Sebastian. Dumbass ideas like this were discussed in the Schumacher years. It's just a ploy to keep fans engaged in years when there are incredibly dominating drivers. It's unlikely to actually change outcomes all that often.
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      12-15-2013, 07:42 PM   #8
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What makes the last race point score worth more than season opening?

This discourages well prepared teams having a great head start of the season. Who did the hard work in Winter break, who read the loop holes in the regulations, and made a more innovative design.

Horrible idea, given the last race of 2014 will be in Abu Dhabi, which RBR has strong performance every year there. So the FIA/FOM might've just shoot themselves in the foot. By trying to introduce double point final race for someone to catch up with RBR, might as well give more points to them.
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      12-16-2013, 10:37 AM   #9
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How typical that the only team that would have seen a benefit from this is Ferrari. This rule change would have made Alonso the champion in 2012 and Massa champ in 2008. All other recent seasonal outcomes would have remained the same. Not surprised at all. This sport has always had rules bent in favor of the prancing horse.

Looking back a bit further, Ferrari would have given up the 2003 win to Kimi.

So, all this being said, Ferrari is the only team impacted in the last 25 years and it's a net positive for them.

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      12-16-2013, 10:58 AM   #10
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I have to admit that once it's looking like one driver (Seb) has locked it up, let alone when it actually becomes a mathematical impossibility for anyone else to catch him, I stop watching the races.

This sort of cheapens it for me, but if it keeps hope alive for other teams and extends the season then have at it.
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Also even in non-dominant schumi or seb seasons, it seems like much of the time the championship is decided before the last race starts. So a lot of the time the last race (or two) is (are) irrelevant anyway. I would love to see a statistic on that.
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Yeah, I dont know. It could make the last races more interesting i guess. But then again, if one team (RBR) is as dominant as this year, it would't matter would it? Vettel had the championchip secured at india with still 3 races to go.
I think it will only be for 1 season, it probably won't do much and if it helps Vettel win again, to bad..
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Its s truly terrible idea. But the powers that be in F1 seem intent on coming up with stupid ideas to try and make the sport more interesting . . but they fail each and every time.
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      12-16-2013, 06:55 PM   #14
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Yeah, I don't mind rule changes in order to make each race more interresting as DRS but to single out one race as more worth in points than another is a bad idea. F1 is not the only sport doing this though. I remember how FIS turned the rules upside down time after time to try to hinder that Ingemar Stenmark won the Combined World Cup Alpine skiing title. Ingemar did not compete in all disciplines and was thereby not deemed "worthy" as an overall champ. but was so superior in slalom and foremost GS that he won the combined title without racing the downhill ( in itself viewed as a no-no since downhill is the main event for the Alp countries ).

I hope all the rule changes to the car is enough to make the grid more competetive and that FIA reconsider these kind of silliness.

I care less about who becomes champion than what I do about having a good fight for the win in each race. I.e if RBR wins after dueling it out from start to end of the races with competitors is just fine, I just lose interrest when the race is over after lap 1 as was the case for much of 2013.

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Latest output from the FIA strategy team in trying to keep it competitive. Whilst we all want close seasons I don't believe this nor any other synthetic solution is the way forward.
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Also the other thing about drivers picking a number but number 1 reserved for the existing WDC is a bit superfluous as well. It works for some team sports such as the NBA and MLB but not sure about its validity in how they have proposed it and beyond that what does it add.
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There's a lot of things that can be done to give teams that don't perform as well a chance toward the end but it is only being done and to increase viewership and hurts the teams that performs well all season. Engine failure or trying to pass when not necessary in the last race could be a disaster.

Next up adding weight to the leaders cars, have reverse starting grid with points leaders at the back.

Hardly seems fair to win the 2nd to the last and next to last race only to have someone match them in points with a win in the final.

I would like to see the points paying positions go farther down the grid. Wouldn't affect the overall much but would give more reason to try to get from 12th to 11th near the end of the race.
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Incredibly stupid. Way to alienate more viewers.
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I don't think it will matter much for the championship. Red Bull will just make sure they have more than enough points before the last race. It could make it more interesting for the teams lower in the standings. One other problem is will it make the 2nd to last race less important if you need to save components for the last race?
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Dumbest rule I've ever heard. If anything they should implement the rule for the first race of the season.
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Horrible, horrible idea. Instead of competing for 1st Im envisioning teams focusing on - say - P2 through P5 and hoping for double points at the end. That flies in the face of traditional sporting methodology.

Alternate idea: How about doubling the points for each driver ONE TIME based upon their best finishing place in the entire season?
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Dumbest rule I've ever heard. If anything they should implement the rule for the first race of the season.
Makes more sense
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