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      03-02-2014, 02:14 AM   #1
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Steering Wheel Shaking

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Having trouble finding the cause of a steering wheel shake...

The main issue I'm having is that I can't find many common correlation. My tires have less than 5k miles, and have been road forced balanced multiple times. I have removed my front spacers and the problem still persists. It seems to mostly be around 40-45mph that the vibrations are present, but sometimes are at lower/higher speeds, or not present at all between 40-45mph

Also it seems to be worse when quickly accelerating after being stopped for awhile, but then after cruising for about a mile goes away...

Any ideas? I have no idea where to start at this point.
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I chased a steering wheel vibration at certain speeds on an E class Mercedes many years ago. Had tires balanced, bought new tires, checked alignment, changed front struts, changed front rotors and more.

Turned out that adjusting the alignment to settings that weren't spec fixed it. Have you checked the alignment?
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I haven't even thought about an alignment causing it... Now that I think about it I hit a dip in the road kind of hard, that could have knocked off my alignment as well.
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Alignment is need prkb check your wheels if there bolted correctly . are you running spacers ? If so double check those to.
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I made sure they are torqued correctly with my torque wrench and they are all good. I removed the front spacers and the problem is still there.
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If you've done an alignment and balance.. Check your power steering pump and motor mounts, also stupid but also make sure your wheels are the correct hub size and don't need hub centric rings
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What kind of tires? Some "flat spot" after sitting for even just a few hours.

Also, what were your road force numbers?
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Mileage?
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If you've done an alignment and balance.. Check your power steering pump and motor mounts, also stupid but also make sure your wheels are the correct hub size and don't need hub centric rings
I haven't done an alignment yet but I will soon. I've had NBT do it before but I don't think I trust them at this point. And they are stock 189 18" wheels from the sport package.

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What kind of tires? Some "flat spot" after sitting for even just a few hours.

Also, what were your road force numbers?
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport. And I'm not sure, I didn't think to ask.
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Alignment check wouldn't be a bad idea anyways, but I would have the suspension bushings inspected for excessive play/wear and the wheels/tires checked by another shop.
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Alignment check wouldn't be a bad idea anyways, but I would have the suspension bushings inspected for excessive play/wear and the wheels/tires checked by another shop.
i guess I'll have them checked by another Discount Tire (maybe one that isn't as busy, they always seem to be rushing). Maybe I can have the dealer check when I have an alignment.
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Also, this might be completely unrelated... but it seems that during colder weather (50 and below) the steering wheel shake is almost, if not completely, absent.
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get an alignment and balance your tires
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Do you guys usually go to the dealer for this? Not sure if I can trust a private shop with this car.
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Have your front suspension and tire rod rubber inspected for wear or damage while you're at it.
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I had this problem once before. Had a tire with a split cord, didn't show up on a balancing machine because most don't spin fast enough.
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There are many reasons why you could experience vibration issues. Could be a bent wheel, bad tire, suspension or alignment related, etc.
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I really hope I didn't bend another wheel... I need to just take it to an expert
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I really hope I didn't bend another wheel... I need to just take it to an expert
I would find a good tire shop. Discount tire can be hit or miss. The alignment and inspection I'd have done at an Indy shop unless you're under warranty.
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I took off my front wheels and used a wire brush and PB blaster to clean off the contact areas with the wheel and it made a huge difference. I'm guessing there was too much rust or material on there causing it not to sit flush.
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It's surprising how important that really is. I always do this. Smearing some anti seize helps delay the effect from coming back, by the way.
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It's surprising how important that really is. I always do this. Smearing some anti seize helps delay the effect from coming back, by the way.
Thanks for the tip, I'll do that when I put my front spacers back on.
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